Su-57 is here | Russian 5th gen jet enters service

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Exceed abilities of F22 and F35? What a joke, Americans have over 60 years experience in stealth Technology and Su57 is not even first generation stealth.


Russia’s new T-50 stealth fighter is fast, maneuverable, heavily-armed and hard to detect on radar. In theory.

But according to Indian air force officials, in practice the Sukhoi-made stealth jet is also too expensive, poorly engineered and powered by old and unreliable engines.

The Indians’ complaints illustrate the yawning gulf between stealth warplane design and the actual production of radar-evading jets. In other words, it’s one thing to sketch an advanced warplane on paper. It’s quite another to build one and get it to work.

All new aerospace development is difficult and many planes get poor reviews early in testing. But the gripes coming out of New Delhi are particularly worrisome for the Russians.

 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
Exceed abilities of F22 and F35? What a joke, Americans have over 60 years experience in stealth Technology and Su57 is not even first generation stealth.


Russia’s new T-50 stealth fighter is fast, maneuverable, heavily-armed and hard to detect on radar. In theory.

But according to Indian air force officials, in practice the Sukhoi-made stealth jet is also too expensive, poorly engineered and powered by old and unreliable engines.

The Indians’ complaints illustrate the yawning gulf between stealth warplane design and the actual production of radar-evading jets. In other words, it’s one thing to sketch an advanced warplane on paper. It’s quite another to build one and get it to work.

All new aerospace development is difficult and many planes get poor reviews early in testing. But the gripes coming out of New Delhi are particularly worrisome for the Russians.

Don't give in to American propaganda and hubris.
 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Don't give in to American propaganda and hubris.

Americans have been experimenting with stealth since 1950s and 60s starting with the A-12 Archangel and they have been using stealth technology in wars since Gulf war. Their stealth technology has evolved significantly since the A-12 and Sr71 days.


Russians are still experimenting with their first stealth jet 60 years after the Americans flew their first gen stealth tech jets.

Its not American propaganda, its failed Soviet doctrine of relying on ground anti air missiles and radar systems to defend the skies, they put inferior radars and avionics on their airplanes. Americans on the other hand built their planes like fine watches with better radars and making them independent from ground radars and air defenses.

In 1982 Israelis destroyed all the ground radars and anti air of Syrians then sent their American F-15 & F-16s against Syria's Mig 21s and Mig 23s. Rest is history.

"In 1991, Ivry met a Czech general who had been serving in Moscow in 1982. He told Ivry that the operation made the Soviets understand that Western technology was superior to theirs, and that in his view, the blow to the Beqaa Valley SAMs was an impetus to the collapse of the Soviet Union."

 

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
Americans have been experimenting with stealth since 1950s and 60s starting with the A-12 Archangel and they have been using stealth technology in wars since Gulf war. Their stealth technology has evolved significantly since the A-12 and Sr71 days.


Russians are still experimenting with their first stealth jet 60 years after the Americans flew their first gen stealth tech jets.

Its not American propaganda, its failed Soviet doctrine of relying on ground anti air missiles and radar systems to defend the skies, they put inferior radars and avionics on their airplanes. Americans on the other hand built their planes like fine watches with better radars and making them independent from ground radars and air defenses.

In 1982 Israelis destroyed all the ground radars and anti air of Syrians then sent their American F-15 & F-16s against Syria's Mig 21s and Mig 23s. Rest is history.

"In 1991, Ivry met a Czech general who had been serving in Moscow in 1982. He told Ivry that the operation made the Soviets understand that Western technology was superior to theirs, and that in his view, the blow to the Beqaa Valley SAMs was an impetus to the collapse of the Soviet Union."

Like I said don't fall for American propaganda and most of all hubris about how great their weapons are. F35 is a worthless money pit. I know people on the "inside" who saw how all their tech failed in the desert hot and dusty conditions. During both the Gulf Wars. How every time the F117 flew it was picked up on radar.

Americans are good at marketing their bullshit and people like you fall for it. In the real world even Americans don't buy American vehicles because they know how shit and unreliable they are compared to Japanese Vehicles.

After WWII American once hasn't faced off with a well equipped fighting force. All they have fought is rag tag militias or forces of poor and hungry countries and still haven't managed to score a decisive victory, even with all their high tech and advanced weaponry,
 

AhmadSaleem264

Minister (2k+ posts)
Future is about drones and small unmanned suicidal planes. Manned aircraft stand no chance against AI-powered swarms of drones