US president Donald Trump meeting with Pakistani Qadiyani person before imran khan visit to US

NailaFirdous

MPA (400+ posts)
He never said anything against Islam or Pakistan, simply highlighted his plight. We consider Ahmedi's as non-muslims but they still have rights within Islam and should be treated with respect and dignity.
 

Qalandar

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Weren't the Qadyanis opposing Trump for his fascist ideas and inclinations during the elections ? Seems like a massive u-turn.
 

atifraza

Citizen
He never said anything against Islam or Pakistan, simply highlighted his plight. We consider Ahmedi's as non-muslims but they still have rights within Islam and should be treated with respect and dignity.

The point is, WE don't accept them as muslims, because they follow a self preoclaimed prophet.

However, in the west or wherever they have settled, they claim to be muslims. The muslim community in general and our governments in particular should lobby and get them labeled as such. Not muslim.

Rights as human, I can agree, but only if these people stop spreading their version and stop labeling their version as Islam.
 

Liberal 000

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The point is, WE don't accept them as muslims, because they follow a self preoclaimed prophet.

However, in the west or wherever they have settled, they claim to be muslims. The muslim community in general and our governments in particular should lobby and get them labeled as such. Not muslim.

Rights as human, I can agree, but only if these people stop spreading their version and stop labeling their version as Islam.
An illogical and un-sustainable argument --- you cannot claim a copy right on word Islam and word Muslim. what if Jews says Muslim cannot use the names of their Prophets and adopt Jewish outlook , religious dictums and religious precepts

Forcing someone to change the precepts of ones religion is equal to taking over their right of the freedom of religion

If they are FREE to believe what they think is right, then so are we FREE to reject them

You are free to reject them but you are not free to force them to reject what they believe
 

Truthstands

Minister (2k+ posts)
Ahamdi/Qadiyani/Mirza's are NOT muslim, even christain do not believe his fake claim of being Mahdi.
We muslim believes our last and final messenger Prophet muhammad peace be upon on him.
They're doing as traitors do their work. Anti muslim forces will work with them.

He never said anything against Islam or Pakistan, simply highlighted his plight. We consider Ahmedi's as non-muslims but they still have rights within Islam and should be treated with respect and dignity.
 

Truthstands

Minister (2k+ posts)
قادیانی کافر ہیں قادیانی کافر رہیں گے گے یعنی کافر تھے مرزا قادیانی جھوٹا تھا اس کی ماں نے اس کو کہا ہے اس کی کتاب میں لکھا ہوا ہے ہے اور اس بات پر بحث کر لیتے اس نے جو کتابیں لکھی کیا قادیانی انگریزوں کا پیدا کیا ہوا فتنا ھے۔

He never said anything against Islam or Pakistan, simply highlighted his plight. We consider Ahmedi's as non-muslims but they still have rights within Islam and should be treated with respect and dignity.