PMLN and ARMY muk muka exposed

arafay

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
On TV and news media many pro army anchors like to portray that raheel shareef and army is against Nawaz Sharif. Similarly pro pmln anchors try to portrat Nawaz as some anti establishment leader. However, instead of listening to media, we should look at the facts.

Historical Facts
1) Nawaz sharif was brought into politics by army and then nutured by Zia himself to destroy PPP from punjab.
2) When Nawaz tried to kill musharraf by not allowing his plane to enter pakistan air space, army had to react otherwise the state would have been in danger. Keep in mind that nawaz had earlier attacked supreme court but army didnt step in. Army was supporting Nawaz Sharif throughout his tenure despite all his bad governance and corruption until nawaz tried to kill army chief, Musharraf.
3) Despite the fact nawaz tried killing musarraf, mushi could not hang nawaz. Instead a deal was made with saudia to give safe passage to nawaz sharif. But later on, akbar bugti was also caught in his cave but he wasnt given safe passage. Point being that army attitude was different for nawaz sharif and akbar bugti despite the fact both of them had charges of treason against them. Maybe it was because of saudi arabia pressure or something else but imagine if altaf hussain is captured, will he be given safe passage to saudia arabia? I dont think so. There is also an example of bhutto who was hanged by Zia despite pressure from several countries to free him. In short Army once again showed its love for nawaz sharif

Present Day Facts
1) During lawyers movement part 2, Army put pressure on zardari and gillani to restore ifhtikhar chaudhry. However, during 2014 dharna army didnt pressurize Nawaz Sharif to form judicial commission. Instead, raheel shareef tried to put pressure on Imran Khan and qadri to quit dharna and then commission will be formed and FIR registered.
2) Zarb-e-Azab began in North Waziristan, entered parts of kpk and then went straight to karachi. The entire province of punjab ruled by pmln was skipped. balochistan is already under army rule since musharraf's time. 2 years on, still no operations have been conducted in punjab despite the fact it is home to lashkar jhangvi, lashkar tayyeba and hundreds of foreign funded madrassas. No JITs from punjab is leaked while every week a JIT from sindh is leaked on media.
3) Shehbaz Sharif and Choi Nisaar used to meet kiyani once every year back when PPP was in govt. But during present govt, these two have met army chief more times than his wife! No other CM has been given this facility. Yet Nawaz sharif is called anti establishment leader.

Please do not fall to army and pmln propaganda. Both of 2 sides of the same coin. The reason they want to dissociate themselves from each other is because

a) Amy doesnt want to associate themselves with worst governance and corruption done by PMLN. They just want to take credit of all the operations and drop in terrorism
b) PMLN doesnt want to associate themselves with army because of international pressures. They want to be able to blame army for not doing operation against afghan taliban and haqqani network when they talk to big boss USA.

In politics this strategy is called Good cop/bad cop. Army is playing this strategy to keep popularity in Pakistani public. PMLN is playing this strategy to keep popularity in Washington and pentagon circles.
 

eye-eye-PTI

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
آرمی اپنے بغل بچے کو کیسے تنہا چھوڑ سکتی ہے

ایسے ہی ہر دوسرے ہفتے شہباز شریف جنرل راحیل سے ملنے نہیں چلا جاتا

جرنیلوں کی چوسنیاں چوسنے والے آج عمران خان کو جمہوریت کا درس دے رہے ہیں اور بے شرم پٹواری شادیانے بجا رہے ہیں
 

سہیل خانزادہ

Minister (2k+ posts)
Shehbaz Sharif and Choi Nisaar used to meet kiyani once every year back when PPP was in govt. But during present govt, these two have met army chief more times than his wife!

You made my day. (bigsmile)
 

wadda.chaudhry

Senator (1k+ posts)
اوئے راحیل شریف، کتنے میں بکے ہو؟
ویسے یہ الزام تو چیف کی ریٹائیرمنٹ کے بعد نہیں لگانا تھا؟
 

سہیل خانزادہ

Minister (2k+ posts)
دو لفظوں کی کہانی

جب کام لینا ہو کھوتوں والا تو لوگ گدھا پالتے ہیں ، منہ زور گھوڑا نہیں

نوٹ : یہاں گدھے سے مراد میاں صاحب سمجھنےپر اپ پر ان لائن دہشت گردی کا مقدمہ درج ہو سکتا ہے
 

wadda.chaudhry

Senator (1k+ posts)


ویسے جو گٹھ جوڑ آپ نے بنایا ہے اس سے تو لگتا ہے کسی اور کو وفاقی حکومت نہیں ملنے والی ن لیگ کے علاوہ تو پھر باقی پاڑیاں خصوصاًً تحریک انصاف زور لگانا چھوڑ دیں۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
 

MunchyMike

Minister (2k+ posts)
General Raheel is a sell out, I have always said that he is Kayani part 2.
These Army Generals are corrupt and they feel comfortable when they
have corrupt leaders.
 

wadda.chaudhry

Senator (1k+ posts)
This is your spiteful and biased point of view.

Your bitter grudge against the army is known on this forum.

Not biased, but loser's point of view.
Leader in ka Umpire ki ungli dhondta raha hai, aur yeh keh rahay hain muk muka hai.

Jab Chief in ki nahin sun raha hai tou phir us ko in kay sath mila dya.....
 

dingdong

Banned
punjabi generals ke ilawa aur generals Kia 2 numbri generals hain kion 3 tenure saay sirf punjabi ko COAS banaya jaa raha hai kion saaray core commanders punjabi hain ,kion Punjab Mai operation nahi Kia jaa raha kion panama sharif and drama sharif mill karr awam ko bewaqoof bana rahay hain Kia punjabi generals ke ilawa Army Mai koi capable nahi ,hai zaroor hai magar agar koi ghair punjabi COAS bann Gaya to woh Punjab Mai Mai bhi corruption khattam Kar daiga Jo Punjabi Mafia nahi chahta iss wastay jabb takk non punjabi generals nahi aatay Punjab saay corruption khattam nahi ho sakti
 

dingdong

Banned
we need Pakistani Generals and COAS we don't want punjabi we want corruption free Punjab not Panama Sharif and Drama sharif Punjab
 

Sphere Manisfest

Senator (1k+ posts)
ARAFEY. What you wrote seems to make a lot of sense. I don't know it is complete true or half true, but it is very well thoughtful analysis. Gives a lot of room to think in this direction. Bravo to you.
 

arafay

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
اوئے راحیل شریف، کتنے میں بکے ہو؟
ویسے یہ الزام تو چیف کی ریٹائیرمنٹ کے بعد نہیں لگانا تھا؟

it's not just raheel shareef. it was kiyani before him. musharraf before him (until his life was on the line). Jillani, zia, mirza salam baig, jahangir karamat and all generals are all pro nawaz.

The main reason of this favor is that army is by and large comprised of punjabis. 80% of core commanders are also punbjabis. therefore many politicians from punjab have their relatives serving in army at present or in the past. do you think raja rental and yousuf raza gillani are corrupt, why no action against them? but dr asim is in jail for treating some MQM terrorists?
 

Lord Botta

Minister (2k+ posts)
ایک مٹروے الطافی عمرانی مشرفی نے سازشی فارٹ ماری ہے اور محبوط الحواس مفلوک الحال عمرانیوں نے آفرین آفرین کی صدایئں بلند کر لی ہیں ، عوام کی جانب سے پے در پے تھپڑ کھانے کے بعد ذہنی اپاہج عمرانی مخلوق راحیل کے خلاف ہوگئی ہے ، لب لباب سارے قصے کا یہ ہے کہ عوام نے تو کبھی مانی مینٹل کو وزیر اعظم نہیں بنانا مگر اوے راحیل تو نواز کوہٹھا کر مانی کو وزیر اعظم کیوں نہیں بنا رہا ؟



 

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Firstly it would be wrong to say Raheel is like Kiyani. Previous General was completely useless thousands of people died he did nothing. As for Raheel Sharif Zarb E Azab woke up army and they hit back, also he stood up against MQM and PPP. So to say raheel is Kiyani part 2 would be wrong.

However I would agree with the facts you have presented time and time again PML N has performance which has flopped but army stillshows a soft spot for them.

Some points to add in 1990 ISI helped NS to become PM through rigging.
In 2008 a deal was established with US, establishment (Musharraf), NS and Zaradri.The deal was Zardari would take first turn then NS would become PM. That is what exactly happened and Kiyani stayed silent and was a part of historical rigging in 2013.

Present scenerio Raheel has taken no part in Punjab corruption, this will dent his legacy. I do agree army has played a huge role in the mess PK is in today by supporting corrupt leadership with zero performance.

There are some people who make out army as anti US which is ridiculous, whether it be NATO supplies, RD release, OBL capture, drones establishment has allowed all of it. There are some who make out Iran as boot kissers and PK as lions of Ummah, which is completely ridiculous.

PK army is no Iraqi army but the mess PK is in they have played a huge role in it. Raheel started well but his end will be a massive dissapointment especially the way things are looking. It is like a movie which starts well. but in the middle it becomes a drag and as for end if it carries the way it is going will have a crap end?
 

desan

President (40k+ posts)
Even if GHQ despises NS, there is no way they will make the mistake of supporting squeaky clean Khan...

After all, there is a multi-billion dollar business empire at stake!!!
 

arafay

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Even if GHQ despises NS, there is no way they will make the mistake of supporting squeaky clean Khan...

After all, there is a multi-billion dollar business empire at stake!!!

right but their paid anchors say otherwise.