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azeezam atensari sb, aap thode uljhan main lag rahe hen is baare main kyunkeh aap ke jawaab main thodi hichkhichahat mehsoos hoti hai. khair koi baat nahin main aap ki uljhan door ker deta hun. woh yun keh ye baat pakki hai keh insaan ko khudaa ne aik scientist aur philosopher mukhlooq peda kiya hai. yahee wajah hai insaan peda hote hi waqt ke saath saath her shai ko figure out kerna shuroo ker deta hai. is ke bawjood aap ne apni doosri post main jo irshaad farmaayah hai main us ko neeche naqal kerta hun.
is per mera sawaal hai, kia aap ne peda hote hi quraan aur hadis soch samajh ker padhne shuroo ker diya the? apni pedaaish se le kar aaj tak apni zindagi per ghoro fiker karen keh aap ka ilm kahaan kahaan se aaya hai, kaise kaise aaya hai, aur kyunker aaya hai.
khudaa khair kere aap ne to khud hi maajhe saajhe waala response diya hai. kam se kam aap mere diye ge links ko padh to lete keh un main main ne kia kia explain kiya hai aur kaise kaise explain kiya hai?
agar aap ne mere diye ge links padh liye hote to aap ke liye behter tha keh aap ki reply to kuchh munaasib hoti. khair koi baat nahin. main aap ko bataata hun kuch bunyaadi baaten ta keh aap aainda soch samajh ker baat ker saka karen. to suniye aur jaaniye keh ilm seekhne ke insaanu ke paas sirf aur sirf teen zaraaye hen. aik hamaara direct ilm jo trial aur error ki bunyaad per ham seekhte hen cheezun ke saath tajarbaat ker ker ke apne dimaagh aur hawaas ki madad se. insaani bache peda hote hi uth ker idher udher bhagna shuroo nahin ker dete aur na hi baaten kerni shuroo ker dete hen. aap ne aur mein ne bhi aisa nahin kiya tha. ham bhi deegar logoon hi ki tarah waqt ke saath saath bade huwe jismaani tor per bhi aur zehni tor per bhi.
waqt ke saath saath aap cheezen seekhte rahe. aap ne shuruaat apne jism ke azaa ka istemaal seekhne se ki. aap ko pata chala yaani aap ne figure out kiya keh aap apni aankh kaise istemaal kar sakte hen aur yun hi apne kaan, naak aur zabaan waghera waghera. phir uth ker baithna seekha phir crawl kerna seekha, khadaa hona seekha aur chalna seekha aur phir dordna bhi seekha. her aik maqaam per aap gir gir ker ya ghalatiyan ker ker ke pohnche aur aage badhte hi chale ge. jab thode bade huwe to aap ne ghalatiyan ker ker ke padhna aur likhna bhi seekha.
yaani aap ki zindagi baaqi insaanu ki tarah ussi dor se ussi tareeqe se guzri aur yun hi aap ne her shai ka ilm haasil kiya jo aap ki dastaras main thi. yahaan tak aap dekh sakte hen main ne qurano sunnat ya qurano hadis ka koi ziker nahin kiya. kia main ne jo baaten yahaan per ziker ki hen un se aap ikhtilaaf ker sakte hen? her giz nahin. ye hai direct ilm jo ham insaan haasil kerte hen apni madad aap ke teht. yahaan se hamaare ilm haasil kerne ke safar ka aghaaz hota hai ya ibtadaa hoti hai. aaj jahaan tak insaan pohncha hai woh issi leaning ki bunyaad per pohncha hai. lihaaza ye ilm quraano hadis se insaano ko bahot pehle seekhna padta hai aur bilkul issi tarah seekhna padta hai. agar aap ne ye ilm haasil na kiya hota to aap qurano hadis to door ki baat kuchh bhi soch samajh hi na sakte.
isse aage chaliye. doosra tareeqa hamaare ilm haasil kerne ka sirf aur sirf ye hai keh ham aik doosre se ilm seekhen. yaani main aap jaise maajhe saajhe se seekhun aur aap mujh jaise maajhe saajhe se seekhen is liye keh jo aap ko maloom hai apne tajarbaat ke tor per woh mujhe maloom nahin hai aur na hi ho sakta hai jab tak aap mujhe usse agaah na karen. issi tarah se jo mujhe maloom hai tajarbaati tor per woh aap ko maloom nahin hai aur na hi ho sakta hai jab tak main aap ko na bataaon. kyunkeh ham sab insaanu ke zindagi ke tajarbaat kuchh had tak aik jaise hote hen magar bahot had tak mukhtalif bhi hote hen. ye is liye keh ham insaan sab ke sab aik hi jaga main nahin rehte aur jo shai aik jaga hoti hai woh doosri jaga bhi ho ye zaroori nahin hai.
issi liye hamaare apne apne tajarbe hote hen cheezun ke baare main jo ham aik doosre ko bataate hen issi ka naam bunyaadi taleem hai jis ke liye ham school, colleges aur universities ya training centres banaate hen mukhtalif professions ke liye. koi lakri ka kaam bahot hi achhaa kerta hai to koi lohe ka wagera waghera. koi gaadi banaane ka mahir hota hai aur koi hawayee jahaaz banaane ka waghera waghera. ye indirect learning hai hamaari aik doosre ki madad se. kia aap is baat se disagree ker sakte hen? her giz nahin. sawaal hi peda nahin hota. abhi bhi main ne quraano sunnat ki baat nahin ki. is liye keh quraano sunnat teesra tareeqa hai insaanu ke ilm haasil kerne ka. ye direct aur indirect learning ke teht nahin aata keh ye khudaa ki wahee se haasil hota hai, kyunkeh insaan khudaa tak nahin pohnch sakte laikin khudaa insaanu tak pohnch rakhta hai.
albatta aap ne ghor kiya keh ham jis shai ko samajhne ki baat kerte hen us ke saath hamaara direct interaction hota hai, yaani us ke saath ham ne baar baar tajarbaat kiye hote hen. agar aisa na hota to ham us shai ko samajh hi na sakte. kyunkeh hamaara khudaa ke saath direct interaction nahin hota is liye ham khudaa ki baat ko us tarah se nahin samajh saakte jis tarah ham aik doosre ki baat ko samajh sakte hen. is liye keh ham ne aik doosre ke saath zindagi guzaari hoti hai. yahee wajah hai ham ko quraan ko samajhne ke liye kisi aur tareeqe ka sahaara lena padta hai. is liye sawaal peda hota hai woh process ya mechanism kia hai? ye sab baaten main ne diye ge links main explain ker di hen issi liye aap ko un links ko achhi tarah se padhna chahiye baat ko theek tarah se samajhne ke liye. issi liye ye baat jaanana az bas laazmi hai keh aap jaane insaani zabaan kia hoti hai, ye kahaan se aati hai, kaise aati hai, lafz kia hen aur un ke maani kiya hen aur woh kahaan se aate hen.
albatta yahaan is baat ko samajhna bhi laazmi hai keh jab ham aik doosre se ilm haasil kerte hen to hamaare apne apne zaati mufadaat hote hen jo ham ko kuchh cheezen to aik doosre ko bataane ki ijaazat dete hen magar kuchh ko chupaane ka taqaaza kerte hen ya woh ham se apne mufadaat ki hifaazat ke liye ham ko ghalat bayaani per majboor kerte hen. issi liye ham ne aik doosre ke sach aur jhoot jaanane ya parakhne ke liye kuchh quaido zawaabit banaa liye hen jin ko ham rules of judgement kehte hen. yahee woh rules of judgment hen jo saari duniya main her aik court of law main istemaal hote hen ya kiye jaate hen court main laaye ge mukhtalif cases ko hal kerne ke liye. yahaan se aap ko maloom ho gayaa ho ga keh rules of judgement kahaan se aate hen aur in ko laane ki ham ko zaroora kyun padi hai. isse aap ko achhi tarah andaaza ho jaana chahiye keh jo baaten main aap ko bataa rahaa hun un ka jaanana kitna zaroori hai. is liye keh in ke saheeh tarah se jaane baghair koi insaan kuchh bhi samajh hi nahin sakta. quraano hadis to door ki baat hai. aap karen mujh se disagree agar ker sakte hen, aap her giz mujhe se disagree nahin ker sakte yahaan tak keh agar aap chahen bhi to.
yahaan per aik aur baat bhi main aap ke liye clear ker dun aur woh ye keh ham insaan her baat ko kabhi bhi jaan hi nahin sakte. maslan agar mujh koi kehe keh mujhe duniya main mojood her qisam ke darakhtun ke naam batao to main nahin bataa sakta. yahee haalat hai agar koi mujh se her qisam ke jaanwarun ke naam poochhe. lihaaza ham ko apni khudaa daad salahiyatun ko bade mehdood tareeqe se istemaal kerna padta hai apni aasaani ke liye. issi liye ham apne matlab ki cheezun ko le lete hen aur baaqi ko nazarandaaz ker dete hen yaani pick aur choose kerte hen. is tareeqe ko ham process of elimination kehte hen.
bahot se nadaan log aik doosre ko taana dete hen keh aap meri baatun se baatun ko pick aur choose kerte hen ye ghalat hai. asal main pick aur choose kerna ghalat nahin hai haan ye ghalat hai keh jis bunyaad per kisi ki baatun ko pick aur choose kiya jaaye woh ghalat ho. pick aur choose kerne se hamaara maqsad ye hota hai keh ham ghair mutalqa baatun ko aik taraf chhor den aur mutalqa ya kaam ki batun ko le len, taa keh ham un ko apni poori tawajo de saken kisi maamle ko theek tarah se samajhne ke liye.
is ki misaal aap yun samjhen keh aap ko dard sar ho gayaa aur aap ko doctor ke paas jaane ki zaroorat pad gayee. aap doctor ke paas ge to doctor ne aap se ye nahin poochha, kia aap ko taangun main dard hai, kia aap ko kaanu main dard hai, kia aap ko aankhun main takleef hai waghera waghera balkeh us ne aap se poocha, aap mere paas kyun aaye hen ya aap ko kia takleef hai. aisa kerne se aap ka aur doctor ka yaani aap dono ka waqt aur energy bach ge ghair mutalqa sawalaato jawaab main ulajhne se. warna doctor aik lambi list banaa ker baith jaata aap se baari baari beshumaar sawalaat kerne ke liye jin ka aap ki takleef se koi taaluq hi na tha ya hota.
ab aap bataao agar ham insaanu ke ilm haasil kerne ke yahee bunyaadi zariye hen to ham in ko rad kaise ker sakte hen ye keh ker keh ilm to quraan main hai aur hadis main hai? ye to aisi baat ho gayee keh aik shakhs ke paas zabaan hi nahin hai aur ham kahen keh woh baaten kerta hai. yahee wajah hai jab tak ham kuchh bunyaadi haqaaiq ko nahin samajhte aur tasleem kerte hamaara quraano hadis ko theek tarah se samajhne ka daawaa bilkul ghalat ho ga.
is liye laazmi hai keh aap in baatun ko khud bhi samjhen aur auroon ko bhi samjhaayen issi main ham sab ka bhalaa hai. yahee wajah hai agar ham quraan ko theek tarah se samajhna chahte hen to inhi baatun ko bunyaad banaa ker ham ko quraano hadis ko samajhna ho ga warna log ham ko paaghal kahen ge. woh log jin ko ham ne aqli tor per dawat deni hai deene islam ki. issi liye ham ko quraano hadis ke aise tamaam tarjamun aur tafseerun ko aik taraf rakhna ho ga jo rational nahin hen, yaani mantaqi tor per ghair musalal hen ya logically inconsistent hen. is liye keh kaise mumkin hai keh quraan khudaa ka kalaam ho aur woh rational insaanu ke liye ho aur woh betuki baaten se pur ho? jab khudaa ne ham insaanu ko peda hi scientist aur philosopher kiya hai to us ki kitaab ko ham kaise irrationally interpret ker sakte hen ya kerne ka haq rakhte hen?
aap meri baatun per zaroor dhiyaan dijiye is liye nahin keh main keh rahaa hun balkeh is liye keh is main ham sab insaanu ki bhalayee hai is duniya main bhi aur aane waali duniyaa main bhi. mera dawaa hai aap ko mere level ki soch rakhne waala insaan zindagi main kabhi bhi nahin mila ho ga. main bhi umar ke us hisse main pohnch chuka hun jahaan mera bhi bistar kisi bhi waqt gol ho sakta hai is duniya se. lihaaza jin logoon ko quraan se ilm haasil kerna hai un ko meri baaten bahot kaam aayen gi, is liye in baatun ko un logoon ko apne paas mehfooz ker lena chahiye. aisi baaten her koi nahin kerta warna mujhe apni umar main itni takaleef na uthaani padti jo main ne uthayee hen in baatun ko maloom kerne ke liye.
yaad rakhen jab ham in baatun ki bunyaad per logoon ko deene islam ki taraf dawat den ge to aap log dekhen ge keh log kaise deene islam ki taraf dordte chale aayen ge. ham ne quraan ke ghalat tarjamen aur tafseeren ker ke un ko duniya main phelaa ker apne khilaaf bahot bade bade mahaaz khol liye hen. meri baaten un ko bahot hi achhi tarah se explain ker den gi keh asal baat kia hai aur us ko kaise samjhaa jaaye. inhi baatun ko logoon ko samjhaana ain deene islam ki asal khidmat hai jo ham per khudaa ki taraf se farz hai. lihaaza aap bhi apne mazhabi zehn se nikalne ki koshish kijiye drust ilm haasil ker ke jis ko duniya main koi bhi challenge hi nahin ker sakta aur umeed rakhen keh khudaa behter hi kare ga.
regards and all the best.
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یہ افسانہ پڑھنا الجھن ہی ہے۔ ہو سکے تو جو کہنا چاہتے ہیں مختصر الفاظ میں بیان کریں
azeezam atensari sb, main ne proper urdu keyboard kabhi bhi istemaal hi nahin kiya is liye mujhe roman letters main hi urdu likhni padti hai. is wajah se agar aap ko uljhan hai to main aap ki ye uljhan door nahin ker sakta. is per main aap se maazarat hi ker sakta hun. albatta agar aap english padhna jaante hen to yahee baaten main ne english main bhi likhi hui hen un links main jo main ne ooper ki posts main diye huwe hen.
main yahaan per logoon se ye darkhwaast ker chuka hun keh agar kisi ko meri baaten samajh main aati hen to woh un ko proper urdu main bhi likh sakta hai doosrun ki asaani ke liye. magar aaj tak kisi ne aisa kiya nahin hai. haalan roman urdu ko proper urdu main tabdeel kerna koi mushkil baat nahin hai us ke liye jis ko urdu keyboard ko istemaal kerna aata hai.
waise aap ne do ilfaaz istemaal kiye hen jin main kuchh negative pehlo bhi ho sakta hai magar mujhe aap ki niyat per shak kerne ka right nahin hai. main samajhta hun woh aap ne postive andaaz hi main istemaal kiye hun ge aur khudaa kare keh mera gumaan aap ke baare mai drust hi ho.
regards and all the best.
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