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Zaid Hamid: Uncencored 9/11 on Waqt News
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Part-1
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hrxiKm0kfE[/video]
Part-2
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VcbP9CXi8o[/video]
Part-3
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOOVPDvewEQ[/video]
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hrxiKm0kfE[/video]
Part-2
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VcbP9CXi8o[/video]
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[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOOVPDvewEQ[/video]
contra
Senator (1k+ posts)
Again those same old CONSPIRACY THEORIES...
1. You all need to realise how dangerous this line of thinking is.
2. During the Mumbai Carnage, this moron, Zaid "H" Hamid, was on Satellite TV, making a fool of himself, claiming that the Mumbai carnage was a RAW operation.
He was saying that Ajmal Kasab was a Hindu because he was wearing a saffron band on his wrist...
I am a non-muslim, if i wear your white cap, do i become a muslim? This is the level of his analysis.
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Please visit this site: "Debunking the 9-11 Myths" http://www.popularmechanics.com/technol ... tml?page=1
1. You all need to realise how dangerous this line of thinking is.
2. During the Mumbai Carnage, this moron, Zaid "H" Hamid, was on Satellite TV, making a fool of himself, claiming that the Mumbai carnage was a RAW operation.
He was saying that Ajmal Kasab was a Hindu because he was wearing a saffron band on his wrist...
I am a non-muslim, if i wear your white cap, do i become a muslim? This is the level of his analysis.
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Please visit this site: "Debunking the 9-11 Myths" http://www.popularmechanics.com/technol ... tml?page=1
Pakistani Lion
MPA (400+ posts)
Zaid Hamid rocks....
nation1857
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
After smoking DOPE he has to ROCK :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:Pakistani Lion said:
Pakistani Lion
MPA (400+ posts)
Ha Ha very funny - people we have comedians visiting the forum as well - sickningnation1857 said:
I just saw this video about 9/11 and i agreed with zaid hamid that it was a conspiracy by american cia and mossad of israel to blackmail the muslims of the world.Its also their plan to single out the paksitanis,now you see every where in the world ,the pakistanis are the targets of terrorism because the zionists are behind it.I have already mentioned in my previous posts that alex jones who in this post playing, "A slap to indian govt and media" as a radio host in U.S, made a cd with the name,"9/11 was an inside job" which clearly shows with the interview of many people who worked as rescuers told him that they heard big big bang inside then the tower fell.Many people said openly,they heard the dynamite sound and the building collasped.henry Kissinger was made the head of investigation team but he resigned within two weeks from the committee because he came to know that its an inside job so he could not carry on and dont want to tarnish his life long reputation.The french journalist was the first one who made a claim in the first week of october/2001 that this 9/11 is the hoax of 21st century but the american media did't talk about his findings because the french journalist was already in NY making a documentary.He started investigating the twin tower incident and came to the conclusion after interviewing the people who were involved in the rescue mission that its inside job,people died in twin towers were mostly foreigners where were the jews,they were watching their game plan from a distance, laughing and dancing .As for contra is concerned,he is an american stooge(agent),working for them ,a hindu zionists,will work for them and always say the things against pakistan.I dont understand why the administration dont block him as he always try to blackmail pakistan.someone borrowed the 9/11 cd from me and not returned yet.I like to download it on this site to prove what i am saying is true,this cd is made by the american not by someone else.what zardari is doing to allow U.S more excess in pakistan,is very dangerous, we should not accept the us aid to compromise our national interest,make it clear to americans that pakistan is not for sale.For a small amount of money we should not sell our sovereignty. Pakistanis should open their eyes before its too late and stop the expansion of american presence in pakistan.The 9/11 was a big ploy to discrdit the muslims first and destroy them but their aim is not gonna be fulfilled,they will pay the price.Their status as super power and economic power will be now very short ,it has been written and will be proved,its only a matter of time.
digitalzygot
Senator (1k+ posts)
Stop Living in deial, GOD has given you a brain which obviously is still unused to figure it out that this was a drama
what kind of hypocrete,liars and ignorant these people are,still denying when the facts are given by the american people themselves.The whole world knows the truth .Zionists now plan is to go after paksitan and destabilize it because of its nukes,if they dont stop this nonsense,it will fire back.
contra
Senator (1k+ posts)
Please read this thread for the complete debunking of 9/11 myths and conspiracy theories: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9578
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To support his "Conspiracy Theories" ZH is giving the example of "Melted Steel" and "WTC 7"---
1. Melted Steel
FACT:
a) Jet fuel burns at 800 to 1500F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750F).
b) However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength and that required exposure to much less heat.
"I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."
c) "Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800 it is probably at less than 10 percent."
NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.
d) But jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego, and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832F.
e) "The jet fuel was the ignition source," Williams tells PM. "It burned for maybe 10 minutes, and [the towers] were still standing in 10 minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down."
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WTC 7
FACT:
a) Many conspiracy theorists point to FEMA's preliminary report, which said there was relatively light damage to WTC 7 prior to its collapse.
b) With the benefit of more time and resources, NIST researchers now support the working hypothesis that WTC 7 was far more compromised by falling debris than the FEMA report indicated.
"The most important thing we found was that there was, in fact, physical damage to the south face of building 7," NIST's Sunder tells PM. "On about a third of the face to the center and to the bottom approximately 10 stories about 25 percent of the depth of the building was scooped out." NIST also discovered previously undocumented damage to WTC 7's upper stories and its southwest corner.
c) NIST investigators believe a combination of intense fire and severe structural damage contributed to the collapse, though assigning the exact proportion requires more research.
But NIST's analysis suggests the fall of WTC 7 was an example of "progressive collapse", a process in which the failure of parts of a structure ultimately creates strains that cause the entire building to come down.
d) Videos of the fall of WTC 7 show cracks, or "kinks," in the building's facade just before the two penthouses disappeared into the structure, one after the other. The entire building fell in on itself, with the slumping east side of the structure pulling down the west side in a diagonal collapse.
e) According to NIST, there was one primary reason for the building's failure: In an unusual design, the columns near the visible kinks were carrying exceptionally large loads, roughly 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor. "What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors," Sunder notes, "it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down."
f) There are two other possible contributing factors still under investigation: First, trusses on the fifth and seventh floors were designed to transfer loads from one set of columns to another. With columns on the south face apparently damaged, high stresses would likely have been communicated to columns on the building's other faces, thereby exceeding their load-bearing capacities.
Second, a fifth-floor fire burned for up to 7 hours. "There was no firefighting in WTC 7," Sunder says. Investigators believe the fire was fed by tanks of diesel fuel that many tenants used to run emergency generators. Most tanks throughout the building were fairly small, but a generator on the fifth floor was connected to a large tank in the basement via a pressurized line. Says Sunder: "Our current working hypothesis is that this pressurized line was supplying fuel [to the fire] for a long period of time."
g) WTC 7 might have withstood the physical damage it received, or the fire that burned for hours, but those combined factors along with the building's unusual construction were enough to set off the chain-reaction collapse.
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To support his "Conspiracy Theories" ZH is giving the example of "Melted Steel" and "WTC 7"---
1. Melted Steel
FACT:
a) Jet fuel burns at 800 to 1500F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750F).
b) However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength and that required exposure to much less heat.
"I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."
c) "Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800 it is probably at less than 10 percent."
NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.
d) But jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego, and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832F.
e) "The jet fuel was the ignition source," Williams tells PM. "It burned for maybe 10 minutes, and [the towers] were still standing in 10 minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down."
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WTC 7
FACT:
a) Many conspiracy theorists point to FEMA's preliminary report, which said there was relatively light damage to WTC 7 prior to its collapse.
b) With the benefit of more time and resources, NIST researchers now support the working hypothesis that WTC 7 was far more compromised by falling debris than the FEMA report indicated.
"The most important thing we found was that there was, in fact, physical damage to the south face of building 7," NIST's Sunder tells PM. "On about a third of the face to the center and to the bottom approximately 10 stories about 25 percent of the depth of the building was scooped out." NIST also discovered previously undocumented damage to WTC 7's upper stories and its southwest corner.
c) NIST investigators believe a combination of intense fire and severe structural damage contributed to the collapse, though assigning the exact proportion requires more research.
But NIST's analysis suggests the fall of WTC 7 was an example of "progressive collapse", a process in which the failure of parts of a structure ultimately creates strains that cause the entire building to come down.
d) Videos of the fall of WTC 7 show cracks, or "kinks," in the building's facade just before the two penthouses disappeared into the structure, one after the other. The entire building fell in on itself, with the slumping east side of the structure pulling down the west side in a diagonal collapse.
e) According to NIST, there was one primary reason for the building's failure: In an unusual design, the columns near the visible kinks were carrying exceptionally large loads, roughly 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor. "What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors," Sunder notes, "it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down."
f) There are two other possible contributing factors still under investigation: First, trusses on the fifth and seventh floors were designed to transfer loads from one set of columns to another. With columns on the south face apparently damaged, high stresses would likely have been communicated to columns on the building's other faces, thereby exceeding their load-bearing capacities.
Second, a fifth-floor fire burned for up to 7 hours. "There was no firefighting in WTC 7," Sunder says. Investigators believe the fire was fed by tanks of diesel fuel that many tenants used to run emergency generators. Most tanks throughout the building were fairly small, but a generator on the fifth floor was connected to a large tank in the basement via a pressurized line. Says Sunder: "Our current working hypothesis is that this pressurized line was supplying fuel [to the fire] for a long period of time."
g) WTC 7 might have withstood the physical damage it received, or the fire that burned for hours, but those combined factors along with the building's unusual construction were enough to set off the chain-reaction collapse.
digitalzygot
Senator (1k+ posts)
So many CD's distributed in australia and New Zealand and ..........distributed by White people who are non muslims confirming the 9/11 that it was all planned by US, they killed their own people to get their regional and political motives so CONTRA it's just not us who say it was all planned, whole world knows about it
contra
Senator (1k+ posts)
digitalzygot bhai,
1. Whether a certain "Theory" is right doesn't depend on who believes in it, but, whether it is supported by facts and can be proven.
2. Popular Mechanics is a very reputed magazine. A number of experts were consulted by them, and they did a thorough analyses.
3. Just think for a minute what people like Zaid Hamid are asking you to believe in:
a) 9/11: American government had almost 3000 of its citizens killed, because it wanted to get its hands on oil resources of Caspian Sea region and Iraq.
b) Mumbai Carnage: Indian government slaughtered close to 200 of its citizens because it wanted to accuse Pakistan and kill Hemant Karkare.
This line of thinking is very very dangerous. It is you and your country who will suffer because of this.
1. Whether a certain "Theory" is right doesn't depend on who believes in it, but, whether it is supported by facts and can be proven.
2. Popular Mechanics is a very reputed magazine. A number of experts were consulted by them, and they did a thorough analyses.
3. Just think for a minute what people like Zaid Hamid are asking you to believe in:
a) 9/11: American government had almost 3000 of its citizens killed, because it wanted to get its hands on oil resources of Caspian Sea region and Iraq.
b) Mumbai Carnage: Indian government slaughtered close to 200 of its citizens because it wanted to accuse Pakistan and kill Hemant Karkare.
This line of thinking is very very dangerous. It is you and your country who will suffer because of this.
sikandar436
Citizen
Mr Contra, we and our country will suffer its other topic and you should not worry about us.. But i wonder why are you ustifying every US shit here..
US is invading this all region son and now or then they gonna bring the shit to india as well.... Yesterday it was Iraq and Afghanistan, today Pakistan and one day it'll be India so dnt junp like nunkey over our destruction....
US is invading this all region son and now or then they gonna bring the shit to india as well.... Yesterday it was Iraq and Afghanistan, today Pakistan and one day it'll be India so dnt junp like nunkey over our destruction....
