Sir, you have to first accept how things work. Let me try to make it more simple. For example British have been British for hundreds of years and then some people go to another Island and call their country Britain/England and claim they are British, in case of a dispute who would you say have the right to be called British? the new colony I guess from your point of view.
As for the acts of Muslims, now you are trying to confuse the issue by assigning a valence of credibility to being called a Muslim to certain acts. A Muslim is called a Muslim BECAUSE he/she believes or at least proclaims to believe what are basic tenets. Using the same argument neither the Christians not the Jewish can claim to be called if we take a look at their acts what sort of argument is this. Clearly in my opinion it is either a result of confusion or a distraction giving you the benefit of doubt i say it results from confusion.
When one issue is being discussed parameters are understood, and discussion happens within those parameters, anything outside of this is irrelevant to the issue and not the best use of time.
Just by the number of years that a certain belief system is called Muslim beats the kadiani claim of being Muslim. Think with logic, think with fairness. I respect the belief system of kadianis just as I respect any other religion but stand firmly that they need to choose a name for themselves other than Muslim, and I am only asking for fairness.
I will leave the political reasons of this problem outside this discussion so we can understand the principles.
As for they not listening to us, they may choose not to and no one should force them physically to do that but why is discussing this issue considered something a real Muslim does not have the right to?
Are you afraid that kadianis will react in a violent manner? are you afraid Muslims will react in a violent manner? We must educate people about the reasons, educate them about the issue and to remain non-violent at all costs. Open a dialogue and let kadianis come to the table to present their point of view what is wrong with that?
Ok, you didn't explain jack. How hard is it to answer a simple f@#$%ing question? What do you plan to do with this qadiani problem? And don't write an essay to explain. What is the f@#$%ing solution to this Qadiyan issue? They will not stop calling themselves muslims. What do you suggest that we do to these qadiyanis? Stop making this some calculus problem that you can't figure out.