Who wants to Come to Germany for Study. ??? ------ Spartacus

[amber123]

i do not have a tv in my house, and i do not read newspaper. I read the quran in detail with translation, read hadith, read the bible and old testament, and i think its all rubbish. We are brainwashed to believe it from a young age some of us are unfortunate to be born in a hindu family some of us in christian family and some in muslim family and poor kids are brainwashed since childhood without reaching a mature enough age to make their decision after doing their own research. I have done my honest research and from what you are saying i assume that you have never read the quran and understood it with translation, because if you had you would laugh reading whats written in it. From what i have read there are a few good things here and there in the quran if you wish to cherry pick but most of it very dangerous stuff and it does not show anyone how to be a true human being, it teaches you to be a monster, very few people today would think that its right to cut someones hands off for stealing a few dates from a tree or keeping prisoners of war as slaves. Humanity only comes from rational discussion like we are having here rather than having absolute morality. Alot of our humanity and freedoms come from the former.

grapes are sour....................

 

[Spartacus]

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[Vitamin_C]

By Christian laws I suppose you mean 10 commandments? The 10 commandments are not in the Bible they are in the old testaments they were given to Moses and are a joke. Canada I think follows Common Law from UK and Ten Commandments have zero bearing on it as they are bullshit. Most Laws in Judaism and Islam come from the code of Hammurabi.
Christianity itself is not a religion its a fraud, Jesus Christ never existed he is a fabrication of the Romans and plagiarism of Lord Shiva and Horus of Egypt among many others (do some research on it its very interesting). So Christianity did not bring any laws.
In Canada and any other civilised nation laws are not made by any religion they are made by secular thought and reasoning, the reason why we do not have a death penalty in Canada anymore is because of detailed research which all came to the same conclusion that death penalty actually increases violent crimes in society such as rape and murder. Its called the brutality effect (search it). It is unfortunate that in USA the 10 commandments are written in their constitution and USA is a religion Jewish Christian country, unlike Canada. Its very hard to be Atheist in USA. I do not compare USA with Canada or Europe. Canada did not join the Iraq war as well.

As for your argument that Canada enslaved the natives therefore we should not live in Canada. The Prime Minister of Canada officially recognized the crimes of Canadian government against natives and apologized for it. All these crimes were committed on the basis of religion and by the Church they say natives as less than human and called them Heathens because they were not Christian, therefore they decided to take the children of natives away and put them in church run schools called residential schools and all the brutality took place in those schools by priest, because they thought that by making them christian they will become humans. Today Canada is not based on Christianity or any religion, the last residential school closed in 1997 i think.
Today Natives in Canada have more benefits than any people in world, they can get passport of any North American country they want just by applying for it, regardless of where they were born, only they can run Casinos and earn billions of dollars, many rivers lakes and mountains are off limites to non Natives, only natives allowed to fish in rivers with nets, everyone else even Canadian citizen have to use rods and catch one fish at at time and the list goes on and on, Natives living like in heaven. They will never in their worst nightmare decide to go live in MiddleEast.

If you follow the rules of Islam that means you can commit spousal rape, sex slavery, chop peoples limbs of for minor theft, 4 witness for woman to prove rape otherwise she will be beheaded for false accusation, DNA evidence not accepted in rape. You can marry your son's wife (Muhammad married his adopted son's divorced wife). You can marry your first cousin, (30% of newborn treated of genetic disorders in UK are born to Pakistani parents even though they are 3% of total new borns in UK). Death penalty if a Muslim decides to become christian. Exploitation of women. Child marriage etc... The problem is those are all absolute morals meaning they will not change until end of time in Muslim communities but in liberal societies we can use our brain and change laws that are unfair to be more humane, that is why religion is so dangerous. I do not agree with Islamic/Jewish/US/Saudi/Irani/ISIS laws, societies make and update laws based on logic and reasoning.

did you know most of the laws you are enjoying in Canada are backed by Christianity faith if you read the history of laws how did they came up with all the laws you would know most came into being through religion

the problem is no muslim country actually follows islam to show the true colors of faith most Muslim countries are corrupt to the core and I hav read quran it teaches peace and love for humanity nothing else

the issue is are we wiling t live under islamic laws no because we are nt getting ay instant gratification from it islam teaches patience no one wants to wait they want to g for things that can give them instant satisfaction right away and hence we are mislead easily

did you know Canada killed slaved and imprisoned most natives and the last school where they brutalized most natives was closed in 1991
and yet we accept tht cruelty and still live in canada because Canada provides us with good pay and good livn high standards and wealthy life styl and in return that makes us hapy but at the same time you break the law in Canada you will no longer be able to have a good job because you have a criminal record hence out of fear you perform good and be a good citizen some people don't learn their lesson have harsh sentences like in usa there is death sentence and so on so forth

just like that islam comes with own rules if you follow them you hav good path if you don there is punishment but we are not wiling to accept Islamic punishment because its not giving us a happy life like Canada is right

 

[Raiwind-Destroyer]

By Christian laws I suppose you mean 10 commandments? The 10 commandments are not in the Bible they are in the old testaments they were given to Moses and are a joke. Canada I think follows Common Law from UK and Ten Commandments have zero bearing on it as they are bullshit. Most Laws in Judaism and Islam come from the code of Hammurabi.
Christianity itself is not a religion its a fraud, Jesus Christ never existed he is a fabrication of the Romans and plagiarism of Lord Shiva and Horus of Egypt among many others (do some research on it its very interesting). So Christianity did not bring any laws.
In Canada and any other civilised nation laws are not made by any religion they are made by secular thought and reasoning, the reason why we do not have a death penalty in Canada anymore is because of detailed research which all came to the same conclusion that death penalty actually increases violent crimes in society such as rape and murder. Its called the brutality effect (search it). It is unfortunate that in USA the 10 commandments are written in their constitution and USA is a religion Jewish Christian country, unlike Canada. Its very hard to be Atheist in USA. I do not compare USA with Canada or Europe. Canada did not join the Iraq war as well.

As for your argument that Canada enslaved the natives therefore we should not live in Canada. The Prime Minister of Canada officially recognized the crimes of Canadian government against natives and apologized for it. All these crimes were committed on the basis of religion and by the Church they say natives as less than human and called them Heathens because they were not Christian, therefore they decided to take the children of natives away and put them in church run schools called residential schools and all the brutality took place in those schools by priest, because they thought that by making them christian they will become humans. Today Canada is not based on Christianity or any religion, the last residential school closed in 1997 i think.
Today Natives in Canada have more benefits than any people in world, they can get passport of any North American country they want just by applying for it, regardless of where they were born, only they can run Casinos and earn billions of dollars, many rivers lakes and mountains are off limites to non Natives, only natives allowed to fish in rivers with nets, everyone else even Canadian citizen have to use rods and catch one fish at at time and the list goes on and on, Natives living like in heaven. They will never in their worst nightmare decide to go live in MiddleEast.

If you follow the rules of Islam that means you can commit spousal rape, sex slavery, chop peoples limbs of for minor theft, 4 witness for woman to prove rape otherwise she will be beheaded for false accusation, DNA evidence not accepted in rape. You can marry your son's wife (Muhammad married his adopted son's divorced wife). You can marry your first cousin, (30% of newborn treated of genetic disorders in UK are born to Pakistani parents even though they are 3% of total new borns in UK). Death penalty if a Muslim decides to become christian. Exploitation of women. Child marriage etc... The problem is those are all absolute morals meaning they will not change until end of time in Muslim communities but in liberal societies we can use our brain and change laws that are unfair to be more humane, that is why religion is so dangerous. I do not agree with Islamic/Jewish/US/Saudi/Irani/ISIS laws, societies make and update laws based on logic and reasoning.

all the claims you are making are false about islam they are based upon hatred from islam and nothing else today because the free will that ALLAH provided to humans you have the right to choose your side of ignorance and that is ok everyone has to answer for his or her own deeds

just remember every one has to taste the death and you will know the truth in the end and until the last breath in our human body we have a chance

 

[affanpervez]

no fees is total wrong interpretation :angry_smile:

Even where they have fees, it is negligible and less than in Pakistan. Students in Germany can easily bear their cost of living through student jobs. In my opinion it is one of the best option for Pakistani students.

The only drawback is the amount (Around 7-8 lakh Pakistani rupees) which has to be initially deposited in a account in Germany (for showing that you can support your living).

 

[OnlyPK]

Even where they have fees, it is negligible and less than in Pakistan. Students in Germany can easily bear their cost of living through student jobs. In my opinion it is one of the best option for Pakistani students.

The only drawback is the amount (Around 7-8 lakh Pakistani rupees) which has to be initially deposited in a account in German (for showing that you can support your wealth).

ay te na jan aaliya galla hoye-ya (cry)

 

[Vitamin_C]

So according to you what Quran and Strong Hadith like Sahih Bukhari say about Islam is all fake? Because whatever information I provided I took it from there. I am sorry to say that the truth hurts, you have all been fooled by a warlord who lived 1400 years ago. So because I am going after knowledge and doing my research I am ignorant, and someone who have never read their own holy book with translation and believes in a supernatural explanation rather than find logical answers is not ignorant?

all the claims you are making are false about islam they are based upon hatred from islam and nothing else today because the free will that ALLAH provided to humans you have the right to choose your side of ignorance and that is ok everyone has to answer for his or her own deeds

just remember every one has to taste the death and you will know the truth in the end and until the last breath in our human body we have a chance

 

[affanpervez]

its true , even if there is tution fee in some universities its like 600 euro per semester which is NOTHING :) but I will prefer pak students to go to Norway , Sweden or Finland for studies since Tutuin is free there too and many English courses are offerd ... Germany is becoming a mess day by day specially that shitty East Germany ...

Sweden is not free any more.

 

[kayawish]

Sweden is not free any more.

then Norway OR Finland , but keep away from Germany (Specially East Germany)

 

[Erumjaan]

total kia kharcha ata hai ?

 

[Spartacus]

https://www.study-in.de/en/

 

[Spartacus]

http://ic.daad.de/islamabad/en/

 

[Spartacus]

http://www.mastersportal.eu/article...-to-do-an-engineering-masters-in-germany.html

 

[Spartacus]

Why do not you try ??

Spartacus wants to help you !!!!

http://www.dw.com/en/leaving-the-us-for-a-german-degree/a-18599858

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[Spartacus]

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[GPBIE]

You've did a lot of homework Spartacus. Nice work.

 

[aleena20]

Oh, germany I wish but wishes dont always come true :)

 

[Spartacus]

Oh, germany I wish but wishes dont always come true :)

Did you try enough ?
How can we ( the members of Siasat.pk ) help you?
we can help you with Information for sure .

 

[Spartacus]

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[ejunooni]

all the claims you are making are false about islam they are based upon hatred from islam and nothing else today because the free will that ALLAH provided to humans you have the right to choose your side of ignorance and that is ok everyone has to answer for his or her own deeds

just remember every one has to taste the death and you will know the truth in the end and until the last breath in our human body we have a chance

If you want to liberate muslims, you have to get educated.