Who rigs election in Pakistan????

[sarbakaf]

woh apna haq ada kar raha hai , this HORUs is another tattooo

جناب عرض کیا تھا کہ ناکام ہی سہی مگر تمیز کی کوشش کرنا .

 

[Sohraab]

آپ یقینن ان ناسوروں کی بات کر رہے ہیں
باپ اور بیٹا ساتھ ساتھ

Topic par raho TOPIC par kuin ke yeh topic tere aabao ajdad par hai

 

[rtabasum2]

جناب یہ بھی بتا دیں کون کون سا الیکشن


١٩٩٢ والا ، ١٩٩٦ والا یا ٢٠١٣ والا یا سارے ہی ؟

Saab Bhai , iss may koi shak nahi

 

[sarbakaf]

Topic par raho TOPIC par kuin ke yeh topic tere aabao ajdad par hai

الیکشن میں دھاندلی پر بھٹو نے الیکشن کا انکار کیوں کیا ؟
جب ایوب فاطمہ جناح سے الیکشن میں دھاندلی کر رہا تھا تو بھٹو ایوب کا ٹماٹر کیوں بنا ؟


ایوب کی اس گھٹیا حرکت میں بھٹو نے اپنا حصہ ڈالا ، وزارت لی .....


اپ جواب تمیز سے دینا .


جناب یہ یاد رکھنا کہ آپ کی گالم گلوچ کا جواب ہم صرف خدا خوفی کے وجہ سے نہیں دیتے ورنہ دو چار الفاظ میں بولتی بند کروانے کی صلاحت بہت سے افراد رکھتے ہیں

 

[insaf-seeker]

Aap ka ishara bilkul darust hai

 

[HORUS]

you are right zia did radicalize the whole system but unfortunately even today in some countries including the US having female head of the state is still a taboo so some 50 years ago it would have been a bigger taboo..........though rigging can never be ruled out in pakistan (bigsmile)

C'mon 60's Pakistani's were more liberal than now, it was only after Zia that radicalization took place, Fatima Jinnah was an icon nobody cud hv defeated her except rigging, we must learn from history n call spade a spade

 

[sarbakaf]

Saab Bhai , iss may koi shak nahi

that means nawaz has always been a part of rigging ?

he rigged election to gain power and then when he was kicked out he cried like baby for democracy

 

[Sohraab]

Saab Bhai , iss may koi shak nahi

sab rig huay hain lekin aik baat yaad rakho 1988 k baad yeh chah kar bhi Benazir ko rook nahi sake , benazir wazir e azam to ban gayi lekin army ne ussay qabool karne se inkar kar diya aur us ki hakumatain gira din aur awam main yeh propaganda bohut zoor o shoor se phaila diya k benazir ki hakumatain is liye girain kuin k woh corrupt thi , yeh woh daur tha Jab Nawaz in ka agent tha , baad main inho ne nawaz ko bhi nahi chora kuin k nawaz bhi prime minister banne k baad in ki interfairence bardasht nahi karta tha m tum pakistan ki history ko 2015 se connect karo aur ussay 1951 tak le jao to aik baat aap ko nazar aai gi , there crimes are very strongly connented , there is no Dis continuety

 

[sarbakaf]

sab rig huay hain lekin aik baat yaad rakho 1988 k baad yeh chah kar bhi Benazir ko rook nahi sake , benazir wazir e azam to ban gayi lekin army ne ussay qabool karne se inkar kar diya aur us ki hakumatain gira din aur awam main yeh propaganda bohut zoor o shoor se phaila diya k benazir ki hakumatain is liye girain kuin k woh corrupt thi , yeh woh daur tha Jab Nawaz in ka agent tha , baad main inho ne nawaz ko bhi nahi chora kuin k nawaz bhi prime minister banne k baad in ki interfairence bardasht nahi karta tha m tum pakistan ki history ko 2015 se connect karo aur ussay 1951 tak le jao to aik baat aap ko nazar aai gi , there crimes are very strongly connented , there is no Dis continuety

یہ سرے محل کیا زکات کے پیسوں سے بنا ؟ سوئس بینک اکاؤنٹ میں پیسے عوام نے خیرات میں دے تھے ، دبئی کے محل کیا سلامی میں ملے تھے ؟


ذرا زمین پر جو ٹیکس دیا وہ بتا دیں ؟ ٹیکس اگر معاف تھا تو کتنی آمدن تھی جو ٹیکس کو ظاہر کی ؟

 

[rtabasum2]

you are right zia did radicalize the whole system but unfortunately even today in some countries including the US having female head of the state is still a taboo so some 50 years ago it would have been a bigger taboo..........though rigging can never be ruled out in pakistan (bigsmile)

that means nawaz has always been a part of rigging ?

he rigged election to gain power and then when he was kicked out he cried like baby for democracy

Look at this document provided by ECP , figures cud be fudged but a country where voter turnout is less than 60% wt is the need of extra ballot papers in millions except to rig the election. I agree with u sarbakf NS was never a popular leader always came on shoulders of establishment, popular leaders till now were Liaqat ali khan , Fatima Jinnah, ZAB, BB n now IK

 

[arafay]

@rtabasum2 do you think pakistanis in the 60's would vote for a female leader? I dont much history from that era but i feel female leaders were a bit taboo back then

i think you dont know but ji led by maududi himself supported fatimaj jinnah back then. actually the elections were indirect - people elected councilors who then voted for the president. as usual pakistanis sold their vote to the highest bidder - ayub was the president as no caretaker was setup.

many people including me believe that bangladesh was formed after this election. shaik mujib was polling agent of fatimah jinnah and within 5 years of this election he was prime minister of bangladesh.

also mqm/mohajirs phenomenon began in the aftermath of this election.

 

[sarbakaf]

Look at this document provided by ECP , figures cud be fudged but a country where voter turnout is less than 60% wt is the need of extra ballot papers in millions except to rig the election. I agree with u sarbakf NS was never a popular leader always came on shoulders of establishment, popular leaders till now were Liaqat ali khan , Fatima Jinnah, ZAB, BB n now IK

Dear
does army decide number of ballot papers to be printed

or do they monitor printing only

ECP decides how many to print ...that is why they having printed the figures in their official report.

 

[sarbakaf]

you are right zia did radicalize the whole system but unfortunately even today in some countries including the US having female head of the state is still a taboo so some 50 years ago it would have been a bigger taboo..........though rigging can never be ruled out in pakistan (bigsmile)

ایسا معلوم ہوتا ہے کہ آپ کے دوست تمیز سے بات کرنے کی ناکامی پر اب گٹوں میں دم دبا کر بھاگنے کی کوشش در کوشش میں مصروف ہیں

 

[GreenMaple]

Use biometric system and electronic voting machines for elections, and get rid of ballot paper migraines for good.

 

[Sohraab]

ایسا معلوم ہوتا ہے کہ آپ کے دوست تمیز سے بات کرنے کی ناکامی پر اب گٹوں میں دم دبا کر بھاگنے کی کوشش در کوشش میں مصروف ہیں

main sonay wala tha sar katay janwar , tujhe bhi tameez pichle 4 din k andar hi aai hai super hit chitrol ke baad

 

[rtabasum2]

Dear
does army decide number of ballot papers to be printed

or do they monitor printing only

ECP decides how many to print ...that is why they having printed the figures in their official report.

ECP decides............good joke , it is always GHQ who decides who is going to rule

 

[rtabasum2]

Use biometric system and electronic voting machines for elections, and get rid of ballot paper migraines for good.

They will start that in KPK PTI intra party election , will be precedent for all to follow. Noorani Sahib is on the case, I hv read his report is very solid person

 

[HORUS]

That is true, our electoral procedure is flawed but even if we install biometric system pakistanis will find a way to rig somehow. BB sure was popular but she completely screwed it up, corruption during her tenure broke all the records locally and internationally.Fatima bhutto would have been a worthy successor but she was completely sidelined from PPP

Look at this document provided by ECP , figures cud be fudged but a country where voter turnout is less than 60% wt is the need of extra ballot papers in millions except to rig the election. I agree with u sarbakf NS was never a popular leader always came on shoulders of establishment, popular leaders till now were Liaqat ali khan , Fatima Jinnah, ZAB, BB n now IK

 

[arafay]

Look at this document provided by ECP , figures cud be fudged but a country where voter turnout is less than 60% wt is the need of extra ballot papers in millions except to rig the election. I agree with u sarbakf NS was never a popular leader always came on shoulders of establishment, popular leaders till now were Liaqat ali khan , Fatima Jinnah, ZAB, BB n now IK

so basically apart from 1993, all those elections were rigged through extra ballots. we already know about 88/90 elections through asghar khan case but why 1997?

 

[rtabasum2]

so basically apart from 1993, all those elections were rigged through extra ballots. we already know about 88/90 elections through asghar khan case but why 1997?

Army or establishment always plays political parties against each other n that makes all political parties weak they r doing it with PTI n PMLN now in the end they will hv a valid excuse to takeover...............if Raheel Shareef punishes a few corrupt people u will see how PTI popularity fizzles out, let me do some maths for u Pakistan standing Army is 7 lakh with some militia make it 12 LKH plus the retired Army personal more than 1 million ..........combine it it is 2 million Army people with an average household n relatives of 10 people , Army is looking at 2 crore plus people , they wud always be the biggest political force in Pakistan added with the money they r generating from different enterprises it is very difficult to wrest power from them. Erdogan did it but he needed two terms for it n the nation was more European in outlook for Pakistan it is a tall order