Ghazniwall
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Salaam to all, Please let me know who do u think won the Debate Zaid Hamid or Marvi Sarmad.
Who do u think won the debate b/w Zaid Hamid and Marvi Sarmad
Well i never liked zahid hamid, and it was first time i knew someone named marvi sarmad existed. Now who won debate is irrelevant for me, the thing i got out of the program was the women has a is really fu*cked up mind, infact she can be put forward as most perfect example of brain washed.
The two nation theory does not only exists in subcontinent but all around the world, there is mafhoom of a hadith that "near the end times the world is going to be divided into two groups", for me that is what we are watching around us.
The two nation theory does not only exists in subcontinent but all around the world, there is mafhoom of a hadith that "near the end times the world is going to be divided into two groups", for me that is what we are watching around us.
Malik495
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
sushma suraaj won it....ziad hamid should be more hyper on some issues but he became silent... he couldnt explain properly what he wanna say..
a woman bluntly criticizing making of pakistan theory, claiming that she will make pakistan a secular country..and whenever zaid hamid was saying inna lillah and astaghfirullah she pointed it as khurafaat....
this b..i..t..c..h should be hanged in chowk
a woman bluntly criticizing making of pakistan theory, claiming that she will make pakistan a secular country..and whenever zaid hamid was saying inna lillah and astaghfirullah she pointed it as khurafaat....
this b..i..t..c..h should be hanged in chowk
Mohan Tiwari
Banned
No one can defeat Sir Zaid hamid in rational discussion!!
Hindu bindi woman lost by big margin!!(clap)(clap)
Hindu bindi woman lost by big margin!!(clap)(clap)
The real debate about two nation theory will only make sense once we are educated enough to understand sir seyyid, iqbal, jinnah and parwez like people who were actually heros of our muslim nation in india. So long as we have the mental level of nehru and gandhi we are not going to understand giants of this nation who under impossible circumstances and situation got us out of trouble. We are so clever that we let our stupid mullahs and ruling elite get back in to the same ditch that they saved us from.
Time for humanity as a whole to learn truth about islam, ruling elite, mullaism and secular democracy based on exploitative economic system.
Time for humanity as a whole to learn truth about islam, ruling elite, mullaism and secular democracy based on exploitative economic system.
ahmadalikhan
MPA (400+ posts)
Looser is the one who don't believe in two nation theory. Khuda ki l.a.n.a.t of Hindu agents SAFMA pe. They are denying Allama Iqbal who said
Both were right and both were wrong. I agree with the point rather than talking about the Kashmir, we need to keep our house in order first. There have been killing of Innocent people. Molvi and muftees talk alot about firqa bandi. Why they don't talk about the basics of Islam. Why they don't become Anna Hazare.
Hazrat ALi said: A society can survive without faith but it can't survive without Justice. Which molvi talked about the justice.
Yeh din wich ilm dai hunda tai sar naizay kiun charhday hu
Athara hazar alam hoyia agay Hussain dai mar de huu.
Alims need to raise their voice against injustice, ethnicity and zero tolerance.
Well Marvi is wrong. To nation theory will be forever. Muslims and Hindus are two separate nations. Its the basis of Pakistan. We are the only country which came into being on the name of Islam.
Hazrat ALi said: A society can survive without faith but it can't survive without Justice. Which molvi talked about the justice.
Yeh din wich ilm dai hunda tai sar naizay kiun charhday hu
Athara hazar alam hoyia agay Hussain dai mar de huu.
Alims need to raise their voice against injustice, ethnicity and zero tolerance.
Well Marvi is wrong. To nation theory will be forever. Muslims and Hindus are two separate nations. Its the basis of Pakistan. We are the only country which came into being on the name of Islam.
humdaan
Senator (1k+ posts)
[/QUOTE]mehwish saheeba yeh log khabi debate mey logic nahi detey ,yeh zaid hamid type ki mentality ko follow kertey hai.woh aik hindu auret sey debate ker raha tha with out any logic.zaid hamid ko yeh nahi pata kay pakistan buna tha do qaumi nazariya per mugher afsoos kay saatk yeh kehna pad raha hey kay ab do qaumi nazariya exist nahi kerta,yeh log hindustan aur ab bangladesh kay musalmano ko bhool jatey hai.raha sawal salman tasser kay batay ka jo kay bohut ghalat huwa.ager farz karey salmaan taseer nay ghalat bhi kiya us ki saza betay ko kyun.ialam tau begunnah ko marney ki talqeen nahi kerta.yeh log is ko bhi justify kernay ki koshish karengay.bilkul usi tarah jaisay aaj kal media mey 150 police waloo ki qatel ki baat ho rahi hey.yeh mugher 15000 hazar logo ka khoon bahaya giya nazer nahi aata.hypocrite munafquat isi ko kehtay hai,mai kehta ho 150 police walo ka qatel ghulat huwa mugher unho nay begunnah 15000 hazar logo ko mara us ka jawab dey kaun hey.yehi sub zulm dekh ker mqm aur ziada masboot ho rahi hay. mqm zindabad pakistan zindabad
SalmanKhanN
MPA (400+ posts)
Bhai meray..no Molvi and mufti has to talk about Adal aur insaf..because it is our Book Quran..Allah SWT says do justice..so bhai..no mufti..no molvi sahab need to talk about it..it is the basics of the words of Allah..and if u still want then to talk about..then u can watch the show..in which this lady was present and also..ibtisam elahi Zaheer..he spoke out for justice in that show..Tariq jameel talk about justice..and we as Muslims should atleast know what Allah SWT is saying to us in Quran..Justice..in Khutbass if we go to Masajids..they talk about justice..human rights..rights of neighbours..toh bhai abhh Ulema aur molvi sahid kiya karein??? Imran khan is standing against injustice..and Ibitsam Elahi..and his party is with Imran khan..yaar baat yeh hai..the media wants to show this crazy stuff..and not the statements of Ulema and Moulanas..if we dont here it on tv dosent mean the Alims are not raising there voice..
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SalmanKhanN
MPA (400+ posts)
Bhai we dont know yet who kidnapped him..People can kidnapp someone for money..
Justice not about deciding cases as per stated law but about having laws that are just. Mullahs do not differentiate between such points. They just read hadith books or fiqh books and execute laws stated there, not bothered with actually checking out if these laws tally with the quranic sense of justice or not. Fatwas about killing apostates of islam are based on such like ahadith in books. Stoning to death of married adulterer are also based on these like ahadith in books. So there persistent contradiction is so called islamic shariah and precepts stated in the quran yet these ahadith are held authentic by mullahs. So where is sense in all this mullah based islam?
This is why today we are losing battle to secularism because if anyone points anything done wrong by anyone from within is labeled apostates and isolated and even murdered in cold blood. This is what mullahs have given us, the imperial islam that is evil and that is what is known widely in the world and is criticized. This is why we muslims need to stop worshiping mullahs who tell us all sorts of rubbish in the name islam.
We condemn those who tell us what islam really is because we have learned our islam from mullahs rather than the book of Allah. So we must give up mullaism if we are ever going to succeed. If creators of pakistan were also like mullahs we would be living in india even today and in much worse state. No education, no jobs and no respect and may be no islam either. We have turned pakistani islam=deen back into indian islam=mazhab.
Unless and until we accept islam as a deen we are not going to get out of grip of mazhab and madness will keep us all confused condemning each other as apostates, munafiqs and what not.
This is why today we are losing battle to secularism because if anyone points anything done wrong by anyone from within is labeled apostates and isolated and even murdered in cold blood. This is what mullahs have given us, the imperial islam that is evil and that is what is known widely in the world and is criticized. This is why we muslims need to stop worshiping mullahs who tell us all sorts of rubbish in the name islam.
We condemn those who tell us what islam really is because we have learned our islam from mullahs rather than the book of Allah. So we must give up mullaism if we are ever going to succeed. If creators of pakistan were also like mullahs we would be living in india even today and in much worse state. No education, no jobs and no respect and may be no islam either. We have turned pakistani islam=deen back into indian islam=mazhab.
Unless and until we accept islam as a deen we are not going to get out of grip of mazhab and madness will keep us all confused condemning each other as apostates, munafiqs and what not.
