What do Pakistanis think about this?

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ConcernedPakistani

MPA (400+ posts)

This is a published statement of David Ben Gurion who was to Israel as Gandhi is to India or Ataturk to Turkey or Quaid-e-Azam to Pakistan.

The world Zionist movement should not be neglectful of the dangers of Pakistan to it. And Pakistan now should be its first target, for this ideological State is a threat to our existence. And Pakistan, the whole of it, hates the Jews and loves the Arabs. This lover of the Arabs is more dangerous to us than the Arabs themselves. For that matter, it is most essential for the world Zionism that it should now take immediate steps against Pakistan. Whereas the inhabitants of the Indian peninsula are Hindus whose hearts have been full of hatred towards Muslims, therefore, India is the most important base for us to work there from against Pakistan. It is essential that we exploit this base and strike and crush Pakistanis, enemies of Jews and Zionism, by all disguised and secret plans.

What do Pakistanis think about this?
 
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contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
Friends :) ,

1. This statement is a lie and a hoax.
Mr. Ben Gurion never made this statement.

2. I have heard Zaid "H" Hamid refer to this same statement in a number of his talks, let me assure you all that this is a completely false statement.

3. It is claimed that this was published in the Jewish Chronicle on 9th August 1967, please follow the link below to know the truth

http://solomon2.blogspot.com/2008/12/de ... istan.html

4. In the above blog you will see that proper research has been done, and it has been proven that this is a hoax.

Please do not follow things blindly. Zaid "H" Hamid is a liar, a fascist, a psuedo-analyst, a fool and a moron.
 
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Pakistani Lion

MPA (400+ posts)
contra said:
Friends :) ,

1. This statement is a lie and a hoax.
Mr. Ben Gurion never made this statement.

2. I have heard Zaid "H" Hamid refer to this same statement in a number of his talks, let me assure you all that this is a completely false statement.

3. It is claimed that this was published in the Jewish Chronicle on 9th August 1967, please follow the link below to know the truth

http://solomon2.blogspot.com/2008/12/de ... istan.html

4. In the above blog you will see that proper research has been done, and it has been proven that this is a hoax.

Please do not follow things blindly. Zaid "H" Hamid is a liar, a fascist, a psuedo-analyst, a fool and a moron.
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Sorry he seems to have hurt your feelings. Glad to see he is pressing just the right buttons for ignorant Indian!!! See his analyses from an year ago about what the US plans were and see what the US is doing now and you can see that his predicted it with an absolute accuracy :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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ijazkhan

New Member
well i don't kno whether this statement is a truth or lie

but this is what we can expect from Israel and its allies.

secondly, for argument sake, even if zaid hamid lies or he is facist, bro HE is provoking youth and making Iqbal alot more easier for youth of pakistan to understand him and see what is goin ahead of us.
 
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ConcernedPakistani

MPA (400+ posts)
by Dr. Subhash Kapila

Israel-India Strategic Cooperation in the Indian Ocean in the Nuclear Context: One must admit that Indian analysts, including this author have completely missed out on the significance of this crucial aspect, whereas this aspect does figure in Israeli perceptions.

It must be recalled that both Israel and India are potential targets for first-use nuclear strikes by their adversaries (in both cases the Islamic nuclear bomb). In Israeli perceptions, the striking strategic imperative that is emerging is the development of sea-borne second strike capability. This strategically has to be operative from the Indian Ocean and hence strategic cooperation with the Indian Navy is an imperative.

Indias perception cannot be otherwise as the credibility of its second strike capability would largely rest on the sea borne leg of its nuclear triad.

Needless to say, that India-Israel joint efforts in this direction should form an important part of discussions with Prime Minister Ariel Sharon during his forth coming visit.

Israel-India Enhanced Defence Cooperation: The fundamentals and details of Israel-India defence cooperation stand discussed in my first paper referred above. The follow-up in terms of enhanced defence cooperation between Israel and India incorporates:

* Israel will train up to four battalians of Indian Army for special operations.

* India has signed $30 million agreement with Israeli military industries for provision of 3,400 Tover Assault Rifles and 200 Galil Sniper Rifles.

* Provision of night vision devices and thermal imaging equipment.

* India has signed a sizeable contract with Israeli Aircraft Industries for upgrading of MIG-21s, Unmanned Aerial Vehicles and laser guided bombs.

* Israel is providing two Elta Green Pine Long Range Radars which form part of the Arrow Ballistic Missile Defence system.

* Indias HAL and Israels IAI will undertake joint marketing of Indias Advanced Light Helicopter fitted with advanced Israeli avionics.

* Israeli provision of advanced avionics system for Indias MIG 27s.

* Discussion on joint India-Israel development of Ballistic Missile Defence system based on Israeli Arrow system.

* Israeli sale of Phalcon Airborne Early Warning and Control system to India with US concurrence. This itself is reflective of the Israel-India-USA strategic cooperation as earlier USA had vetoed the sale of this system by Israel to China.

India continues to face many voids in her defence preparedness in terms of sophisticated military equipment and PM Sharon must be invited to fill them up.
 
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ConcernedPakistani

MPA (400+ posts)
Read this before 'research' and then 'claims' of non existence of any such articles

JINSA stands for Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs and this was published in 2003, August in JINSA Online

India-Israel Military Ties Continue to Grow
Troop Training to Supplement Arms Sales

Israel is expected to train four battalions of nearly 3,000 Indian soldiers for specialized anti-insurgency strikes, adding to their training in desert, mountain, jungle, and counter-hijacking and hostage crisis situations. New Delhi's turn to Jerusalem for combat soldier expertise is due, in part, to disappointing results in border clashes with Pakistani forces and to last year's suicide attack by Muslim terrorist infiltrators on Indian Parliament members. Among the many tasks expected of them, the newly trained Indian troops are expected to stop infiltration by Pakistani terrorists into India via the contested Kashmir region, according to the Jerusalem Post, Feb. 3, 2003.

Presumably to equip these soldiers, India recently concluded a $30 million agreement with Israel Military Industries (IMI) for 3,400 Tavor assault rifles, 200 Galil sniper rifles, as well as night vision and laser range finding and targeting equipment. The purchase seems to demonstrate a broadening of the defense trade relationship beyond Indian purchase of Israeli high-tech electronic systems. For decades, New Delhi has bought most of its Air Force and Army hardware from Russia. To pay for all of this, the Indian defense budget has grown considerably and is expected to reach $100 billion in the next decade.

Indo-Israeli trade is on the rise climbing from about $250 million annually to more than $1.15 billion in the most recent years and the defense sector has seen the most rapid growth.

Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) services several large contracts with the Indian Air Force (IAF) including the upgrading of the IAF's Russian-made MiG-21 ground attack aircraft, sales of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) and laser-guided bombs. Negotiations reportedly are in advanced stages for Israel to provide state-of-the-art fire control systems and thermal imagers for the Indian Army's Russian-made T-72 tank fleet.

Indian defense officials acknowledged the acquisition of two Israeli Elta Green Pine long-range radar systems, a component of the Arrow Ballistic Missile Defense System, according to the International Herald Tribune, Feb.10, 2003. The same paper reports that India is negotiating the purchase the sophisticated airborne early-warning and control Phalcon system in a bid to bolster the country's defenses against missilesa deal that requires approval from the U.S. due to sanctions imposed on India in 1998 as a result of the country's Pokhran nuclear tests.

Israeli-Indian-U.S. strategic talks have also begun on the sale of the complete Arrow missile defense system to New Delhi. A 2001 Pentagon review concluded that the defensive nature of the Arrow system exempts it from sales restrictions imposed by the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR), an international agreement designed to stop the spread of offensive missile technology.

Along with its military needs however, the burgeoning Indian economy has led to keen competition for India's growing civilian aircraft market as well, where demand is expected to soar in the coming years. Europe's Airbus consortium recently won out over the Boeing Co. for the $1.7 billion contract to supply 28 commercial jets to Indian Airlines and the international flagship carrier Air India. The largest Indian aerospace firm, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), joined hands with IAI for the joint marketing of the HAL-built Advanced Light Helicopter (ALH).

During February's Aero India 2003, the international aerospace exposition in Bangalore, HAL officials announced an agreement to integrate IAI's avionics into the ALH platform and to market the ALH globally. Also at the expo, IMI exhibited its anti-tank anti-personnel (ATAP) cluster bomb, designed to strike infantry and armored vehicles. Its sub-munitions include a self-destruct mechanism to minimize the risk to friendly forces and civilians entering the area after an attack, resulting in a significant upgrade for both Indian defensive and commercial operations.
 
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ConcernedPakistani

MPA (400+ posts)
There is so much cooperation between India and Israel that it is impossible to hide everything.
India needs this help from Israel and Pakistani security establishment knows this and are prepared for it. The people who need to know are ordinary Pakistanis and they need to know who is against Pakistan and that Pakistan is ready to face the challenges.

Another interesting article is

RAW and MOSSAD The Secret Link

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribun ... _03_25.asp
 
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Guest

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its very very sad that HITLER didnt finish his job correctly , but INSHALLAH we pakistanies start this one day and finish this and also dirty hindus . :evil: :evil: and bfore to talk about zaid hamid , u idiot hindu mind ur bad mouth othervise i will use some other languge with u , :evil:
 
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Guest
contra said:
Friends :) ,

1. This statement is a lie and a hoax.
Mr. Ben Gurion never made this statement.

2. I have heard Zaid "H" Hamid refer to this same statement in a number of his talks, let me assure you all that this is a completely false statement.

3. It is claimed that this was published in the Jewish Chronicle on 9th August 1967, please follow the link below to know the truth

http://solomon2.blogspot.com/2008/12/de ... istan.html

4. In the above blog you will see that proper research has been done, and it has been proven that this is a hoax.

Please do not follow things blindly. Zaid "H" Hamid is a liar, a fascist, a psuedo-analyst, a fool and a moron.
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hey you idiot hindu if u use again this kindof languge for zaid hamid so remeber i will write u what u never have never heart b4 so mind ur dirty little hindu mouth and keep it shut about our muslim people , and we will soon F*** hindus and israel and clean sweep them from earth surface and complete hitler job :evil:
 
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