West must learn to respect Islam

bons

Minister (2k+ posts)
How can you equate bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki with terrorism. Can you tell me who attacked Perl Harbor, without giving any ultimatum of war?

Who refused to surrender when Island of Japan was surrounded by the American Navy. Who wanted to fight until death and had the slogan NO-SURRENDER. Who ignored two warnings to surrender. Who still refused to surrender after first bomb was dropped despite of another warning for the second bomb.

I guess you would have felt better if US had bombed every one with conventional bombs.

For your Information it was the terrorist US who supplied aid at the grandest scale to help the Japanese get back on the feet.

Have you ever wondered why the Japanese don't consider US as terrorists despite being bombed.

Japan is a great nation today it realized its mistakes and took steps to insure that they don't repeat the past.

Have you ever wonder why Chinese considered the Japanese of the time as terrorists, yes because they suffered enslavement, summary execution were considered sub human beings.

In your earlier response to a post with regards to Khadfi, you stated that he was your hero when he was financing hijacking, bombings of public places and blowing passenger jet liners from the sky, and when he gave it up you hated him.

Its a good post but I think you should also practice what you post.

Bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was state terrorism. America has now transformed into a terrorist state and is doing state terrorsim throughout the world with the help of its pitthoos like Israel and India.
 

adnan_younus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
well paksitan was its bigggest pithoo and reciever of aid... during the 80's war... and currently also its surviging on american aid..... so stop being an idiot jazbati patora and talk some sense and show that ur a literate person
Bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was state terrorism. America has now transformed into a terrorist state and is doing state terrorsim throughout the world with the help of its pitthoos like Israel and India.
 

bons

Minister (2k+ posts)
well paksitan was its bigggest pithoo and reciever of aid... during the 80's war... and currently also its surviging on american aid..... so stop being an idiot jazbati patora and talk some sense and show that ur a literate person

In other words we can say that America was Pakistan's pitthoo during the 80's war. We didn't invite Americans they came for their own sake and joined the ongoing struggle against Russia. You need a major overhaul like your Musharraf because you think that only Mushers are literate people and rest of Pakistanis are idiot, jazbati, senseless and illetrate. (What does patora mean? i am illetrate please enlighten me with your literacy)
 

adnan_younus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
"you think that only Mushers are literate people and rest of Pakistanis are idiot, jazbati, senseless and illetrate."

the answer is yess.. happpyyy....
In other words we can say that America was Pakistan's pitthoo during the 80's war. We didn't invite Americans they came for their own sake and joined the ongoing struggle against Russia. You need a major overhaul like your Musharraf because you think that only Mushers are literate people and rest of Pakistanis are idiot, jazbati, senseless and illetrate. (What does patora mean? i am illetrate please enlighten me with your literacy)
 

adnan_younus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Pithoo aid lya kertey hein .. detey nahi hein.... auqaat gandasa chalaney kee and baat B52 bomber ko giraney kee kertey hein.... Pakistan ka haal bhi afghanistan jaisa hota agar AMREEEKA na aata.... and abhi bhhee agar quaid-e-pakistan pervez musharraf kee leadership na hoti to ye jo lunatic groups hien.. abhi tak poorey paksitan per qabiz hochukey hotey....

aur ye khush fehmi ke amreeka haar gaya jang afghanistan mein... kya haari huee qaum key halaat america jasie hotey hein??? fantasy world se niklo... amreeeka had stakes that time they attacked.. they now feel its worthelss to continue now they want to go out.. in both the cases.. pitayee afghanitsan and pakistan kee huee ahi

canada mein reh ker aisee baatein achi nahi lagti.... ive lived in paksitan 29 yrs and seen all governemnts... best one is musharraf era.. worst one is PPP-PML(N) cycle we had in 90's....
In other words we can say that America was Pakistan's pitthoo during the 80's war. We didn't invite Americans they came for their own sake and joined the ongoing struggle against Russia. You need a major overhaul like your Musharraf because you think that only Mushers are literate people and rest of Pakistanis are idiot, jazbati, senseless and illetrate. (What does patora mean? i am illetrate please enlighten me with your literacy)
 
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adnan_younus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I am not responsilbe for what they do.. i am responsible of what we do....
Have you read any paper of the OTHER side? You can find their hatred not only in papers but also on tv channels. Why don't you demand ban on them? It is Musharraf's doctrine. Apnay logon par tank le kar charh doro aur dushman ke agay lait jao.
 

pappufromindia

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
yaar islam k naam pe roz katlo gaarat ho rahi hai aur aap west se umeed kar rahe ho respect ki.yeh possible nahi hai...sachi baat bolu toh mujhe bhi islam se bada dar lagta hai.
 

Unicorn

Banned
yaar islam k naam pe roz katlo gaarat ho rahi hai aur aap west se umeed kar rahe ho respect ki.yeh possible nahi hai...sachi baat bolu toh mujhe bhi islam se bada dar lagta hai.

Pappu Bhai marta vo hai ho darta hai. Be concerned and let reason and rationale guide your action not fear. There are more Muslims falling victims to katlo-garrat than non-Muslims.
 

Unicorn

Banned
You are for what and how are our positions different?
Im not pro slavery. Im just trying to understand like you how Islam proposed the reduction in slavery over time.
Anyway I should get some sleep too.
Have a good day.
This discussion got towards slavery because of the Video. In the video there are slaves, who have been slaves for generations and they are all Muslims. There are slave owners who are also Muslims and Mr. Mohammad who wants see slavery disappear is also Muslim.

I can not foresee these slaves buying their freedom.

I am firmly in Mr. Mohammad's camp and I will accept his interpretation solely because I will feel very uncomfortable with any other interpretation.

What I see in this video is INJUSTICE today, it was injustice five hundred years ago, and If I was living in that country I will be like Mr. Mohammad use all my means to eliminate slavery. Since I can't do that I will use my tongue and pen, thats what i am doing now and if I could not do that I will resort to the weakest form of my faith and feel bad about it if i failed to that than I am not a person of faith at all.

After looking at the video will you modify your comment or you will stand by them?
 
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awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
This discussion got towards slavery because of the Video. In the video there are slaves, who have been slaves for generations and they are all Muslims. There are slave owners who are also Muslims and Mr. Mohammad who wants see slavery disappear is also Muslim.

I can not foresee these slaves buying their freedom.

I am firmly in Mr. Mohammad's camp and I will accept his interpretation solely because I will feel very uncomfortable with any other interpretation.

What I see in this video is INJUSTICE today, it was injustice five hundred years ago, and If I was living in that country I will be like Mr. Mohammad use all my means to eliminate slavery. Since I can't do that I will use my tongue and pen, thats what i am doing now and if I could not do that I will resort to the weakest form of my faith and feel bad about it if i failed to that than I am not a person of faith at all.

After looking at the video will you modify your comment or you will stand by them?

If one is to agree with the interpretation of these people who still claim owning slaves is their right , then we can see from the video that these same people are NOT giving them the rights that are due of a slave as per Early Islamic tradition and rulings. Like I said before religion has nothing to do with this kind of slavery.
Moreover as of today slavery is no longer allowed even under Islamic rulings because all states are signatory to anti slavery laws and this is all as per Islamic injunctions. If a person in Pakistan for example were to have slaves he would be doing an ANTI Islamic thing because when the state decrees something it IS the law and if it doesnt go against Islamic teachings everyone is supposed to follow it.
 

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