West must learn to respect Islam

[QaiserMirza]

West must learn to respect Islam​

Muslims don't say anything bad for Jesus or Moses or any Prophet of ALLAH including Muhammad. Muslims believe in all the prophets of ALLAH without any difference.

Regarding terrorism, according to the definition of it the Muslims don't fit. Anybody who practices the act of terrorism should be considered a terrorist e.g. nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Is there anyone else in this world who has committed anything worse than that? Yes, Israel. But who counts that?

Hitler was not muslim. Neither Bush nor zionists.

Please help yourself and learn Islam that way may ALLAH have mercy on you.

 

[Unicorn]

West must learn to respect Islam​

Muslims don't say anything bad for Jesus or Moses or any Prophet of ALLAH including Muhammad. Muslims believe in all the prophets of ALLAH without any difference.

Regarding terrorism, according to the definition of it the Muslims don't fit. Anybody who practices the act of terrorism should be considered a terrorist e.g. nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Is there anyone else in this world who has committed anything worse than that? Yes, Israel. But who counts that?

Hitler was not muslim. Neither Bush nor zionists.

Please help yourself and learn Islam that way may ALLAH have mercy on you.

How can you equate bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki with terrorism. Can you tell me who attacked Perl Harbor, without giving any ultimatum of war?

Who refused to surrender when Island of Japan was surrounded by the American Navy. Who wanted to fight until death and had the slogan NO-SURRENDER. Who ignored two warnings to surrender. Who still refused to surrender after first bomb was dropped despite of another warning for the second bomb.

I guess you would have felt better if US had bombed every one with conventional bombs.

For your Information it was the terrorist US who supplied aid at the grandest scale to help the Japanese get back on the feet.

Have you ever wondered why the Japanese don't consider US as terrorists despite being bombed.

Japan is a great nation today it realized its mistakes and took steps to insure that they don't repeat the past.

Have you ever wonder why Chinese considered the Japanese of the time as terrorists, yes because they suffered enslavement, summary execution were considered sub human beings.

In your earlier response to a post with regards to Khadfi, you stated that he was your hero when he was financing hijacking, bombings of public places and blowing passenger jet liners from the sky, and when he gave it up you hated him.

Its a good post but I think you should also practice what you post.

 

[QaiserMirza]

How can you equate bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki with terrorism. Can you tell me who attacked Perl Harbor, without giving any ultimatum of war?

Who refused to surrender when Island of Japan was surrounded by the American Navy. Who wanted to fight until death and had the slogan NO-SURRENDER. Who ignored two warnings to surrender. Who still refused to surrender after first bomb was dropped despite of another warning for the second bomb.

I guess you would have felt better if US had bombed every one with conventional bombs.

For your Information it was the terrorist US who supplied aid at the grandest scale to help the Japanese get back on the feet.

Have you ever wondered why the Japanese don't consider US as terrorists despite being bombed.

Japan is a great nation today it realized its mistakes and took steps to insure that they don't repeat the past.

Have you ever wonder why Chinese considered the Japanese of the time as terrorists, yes because they suffered enslavement, summary execution were considered sub human beings.

In your earlier response to a post with regards to Khadfi, you stated that he was your hero when he was financing hijacking, bombings of public places and blowing passenger jet liners from the sky, and when he gave it up you hated him.

Its a good post but I think you should also practice what you post.

Japan is a tiger in chains, does that country has liberty to keep armed forces ?

Regarding Qadafi, yes, he was hero when he stand up for the unification of Muslim world.
He was hero when he tries his best to unified Libya, Egypt and Syria.

 

[Unicorn]

Japan is a tiger in chains, does that country has liberty to keep armed forces ?

Regarding Qadafi, yes, he was hero when he stand up for the unification of Muslim world.
He was hero when he tries his best to unified Libya, Egypt and Syria.

And its your belief that once Japan has its own Military those chains will be broken? Japan and Germany (another tiger in chains) signed this agreement under terms of surrender.

Please explain how Khadafi could have united the Muslim world by bombing public places and bringing down passenger jet liners.

 

[adnan_younus]

if u will respect others others will respect u.. simplzzz... zarb-e-momin ke 2-3 article parh raha thaa.... itni hatred.... that paper shud be banned....

West must learn to respect Islam​

Muslims don't say anything bad for Jesus or Moses or any Prophet of ALLAH including Muhammad. Muslims believe in all the prophets of ALLAH without any difference.

Regarding terrorism, according to the definition of it the Muslims don't fit. Anybody who practices the act of terrorism should be considered a terrorist e.g. nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Is there anyone else in this world who has committed anything worse than that? Yes, Israel. But who counts that?

Hitler was not muslim. Neither Bush nor zionists.

Please help yourself and learn Islam that way may ALLAH have mercy on you.

 

[adnan_younus]

I dont agree with u... only America used an atomic bomb .. killed thousand innocents.. covertly helping allies in world war II.... what ever u say.. that was an excessive force of agression... if US can keep atomic bomb so can any country of this world... when india did nuclear blast... no sanctions.. when pakistan did we were stamped with sanctions where as it was us who helped them win their capitalist war against russia... no matter how much i support paksitans war on crushing the lunatics and terrorirts... i also say americans have clear bias in their foreign policy... the whole world wil talk against israle but they will use their veto....

How can you equate bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki with terrorism. Can you tell me who attacked Perl Harbor, without giving any ul
timatum of war?

Who refused to surrender when Island of Japan was surrounded by the American Navy. Who wanted to fight until death and had the slogan NO-SURRENDER. Who ignored two warnings to surrender. Who still refused to surrender after first bomb was dropped despite of another warning for the second bomb.

I guess you would have felt better if US had bombed every one with conventional bombs.

For your Information it was the terrorist US who supplied aid at the grandest scale to help the Japanese get back on the feet.

Have you ever wondered why the Japanese don't consider US as terrorists despite being bombed.

Japan is a great nation today it realized its mistakes and took steps to insure that they don't repeat the past.

Have you ever wonder why Chinese considered the Japanese of the time as terrorists, yes because they suffered enslavement, summary execution were considered sub human beings.

In your earlier response to a post with regards to Khadfi, you stated that he was your hero when he was financing hijacking, bombings of public places and blowing passenger jet liners from the sky, and when he gave it up you hated him.

Its a good post but I think you should also practice what you post.

 

[Unicorn]

I dont agree with u... only America used an atomic bomb .. killed thousand innocents.. covertly helping allies in world war II.... what ever u say.. that was an excessive force of agression... if US can keep atomic bomb so can any country of this world... when india did nuclear blast... no sanctions.. when pakistan did we were stamped with sanctions where as it was us who helped them win their capitalist war against russia... no matter how much i support paksitans war on crushing the lunatics and terrorirts... i also say americans have clear bias in their foreign policy... the whole world wil talk against israle but they will use their veto....

I believe under the circumstances and to save thousands of their troops it was the right decision and we can agree to disagree.

You are right every country has the right to build A bomb except those countries who signed non proliferation treaty like Iran. India and Pakistan did not sign the treaty.

For your information when India tested nuclear bomb US imposed sanctions against India these sanctions were lifted following the 911 attacks, from Pakistan and India. Please check it out for yourself.

Relationships between any two countries are based on mutual interests so are their foreign policies. Pakistan's relationship with US has always been transactional, in that both parties know full well what are they putting in and getting out and its not the fault of United States.

United states has very little choice in not helping Israel because of the local geo politics. There are 30 million Evangelical Christians voters in US along with very powerful Israeli lobby.

These lunatic evangelicals believe that Jews will return back to Israel (including Jordon) they supply them with lots of money and encourage Jews to occupy more land . They believe that there will be a war between Jews and its enemies and all its enemies will be killed and a few Jews will survive.

Only then Jesus will decent from heaven converting Jews to Christians and rapture all to Heaven. These people are die hard Israel supporters any one against Israel will not get their vote. We have a problem with a religious twist.

 

[Azad]

Muslim is Muslim when he believes in all these prophets A.S
part of Iman

 

[adnan_younus]

u are right US imposed sanctions on india as well.... but like teh issue with US and Pak started with preslers amendment ... like we fought and won a war for u.... then u even after recieving money from pakistan dnt give us the F16's... india is too big... we need support from US to keep balance of power.. we lost halfof our country... but they ditched us after using us... thats where the establishment injected anit US sentiments in pakistan.. after 9/11 every thing changed.. but the anti US sentiment didnt... thats a separate topic..

about the jew lobby... the whole terrorist roots start from there... Musharraf in countless lectures has said we are working to finish extremist in our society.... but west also has to finish the root cause of this extremism and hate towards the US....i.e. solve all conflicts including kashmir... otherwise its a never ending war... there has to be a balance....

I believe under the circumstances and to save thousands of their troops it was the right decision and we can agree to disagree.

You are right every country has the right to build A bomb except those countries who signed non proliferation treaty like Iran. India and Pakistan did not sign the treaty.

For your information when India tested nuclear bomb US imposed sanctions against India these sanctions were lifted following the 911 attacks, from Pakistan and India. Please check it out for yourself.

Relationships between any two countries are based on mutual interests so are their foreign policies. Pakistan's relationship with US has always been transactional, in that both parties know full well what are they putting in and getting out and its not the fault of United States.

United states has very little choice in not helping Israel because of the local geo politics. There are 30 million Evangelical Christians voters in US along with very powerful Israeli lobby.

These lunatic evangelicals believe that Jews will return back to Israel (including Jordon) they supply them with lots of money and encourage Jews to occupy more land . They believe that there will be a war between Jews and its enemies and all its enemies will be killed and a few Jews will survive.

Only then Jesus will decent from heaven converting Jews to Christians and rapture all to Heaven. These people are die hard Israel supporters any one against Israel will not get their vote. We have a problem with a religious twist.

 

[moazzamniaz]

I m pretty sure that the day we Muslims start taking Islam seriously and stop using it for our petty personal gains, West will definitely start respecting it!

 

[Safarmai]

''... like we fought and won a war for u....''

I watched a documentary about the chernobyl accident last year. It was new documentary remembering 23 years of accident. They interview many people including last president of USSR Gorbachev. He said that after the accident they did not have money to run USSR, all money went for the cleanup.

Accident cause the USSR to call back forces from Afghanistan. It did not help the USSR economy, they call back forces from east Germany. And finally USSR break into pieces.
I don't think afghanis won the war by defeating USSR. I don't want to spoil their happiness, let them think they won. USA did not win cold war or maybe won.

 

[Unicorn]

u are right US imposed sanctions on india as well.... but like teh issue with US and Pak started with preslers amendment ... like we fought and won a war for u.... then u even after recieving money from pakistan dnt give us the F16's... india is too big... we need support from US to keep balance of power.. we lost halfof our country... but they ditched us after using us... thats where the establishment injected anit US sentiments in pakistan.. after 9/11 every thing changed.. but the anti US sentiment didnt... thats a separate topic..

about the jew lobby... the whole terrorist roots start from there... Musharraf in countless lectures has said we are working to finish extremist in our society.... but west also has to finish the root cause of this extremism and hate towards the US....i.e. solve all conflicts including kashmir... otherwise its a never ending war... there has to be a balance....

Preslers amendments came into effect when Pakistan was asked to give up all its nuclear devices and provide a certificate every year that it does not posses any nuclear device otherwise the aid to Pakistan will be severely cut. Pakistan refused and reiterated that we will eat grass than to surrender. US acted in its interest in making this demand.

Under GW Bush senior all aid to Pakistan was cut these were the same sanctions imposed on India earlier. Pakistan paid around 600 million for F-16 us refused to give F-16 and refused to pay on grounds that Pakistan had received nearly 800 million dollars in aid.

It is a false believe that you fought the war for US. Mr. Zia had already started to support insurgency in Afganistan. President Jimmy Carter offered 400 Millon to Pakistan Mr. Zia refused. It wasn’t under Regan’s Presidency that US stepped in with its money and weapons to assist Pakistan with war that Pakistan was involved. You are lucky that US came to aid.

Do you know the time in brief history of Pakistan when it was fully self sufficient? From 1962 to 1965 until your army initiated operation Jibralter and launched a surprise attack on India. Pakistan had healthy trade surplus with India and climbing. I still have an electric fan that my dad bought in 1963 Made in Pakistan. You believe you need protection from India.It was Pakistan who decided to cut all trade and ties with India and rest is history.

You want to west to solve all the problems in the world, they can’t. Its up to Pakistan and India to solve their problems. Its up to Palestinians and Isrealis to solve their problems. If its your view that the war must continue until west solve all problems than it will continue and you may start to produce grass fit for human consumption.

 

[adnan_younus]

insurgency in Afghanistan was started indeed using a very dangerous ploy of creating fantasy jihadist robots but it came into full swing when US came in with its support both financially and militarily together with saudis....

I knw abt the US saying we gave u aid so we wont return u the money.. aid is aid u cannot account aid money with our tax money.... neither u can adjust any aid money with something we paid for... the argument is the same.... when we gave US the full support in afghanistan creating the fantasy robots.. and when job done they just left.. and left with sanctions on us... US pakistan love affairs dates back to 1948 when liaqat ali khan visited US instead of Russia... and US didnt come to our aid; they came for their interests and then abandoned us.... we shud have never been part of that war and that too in such maner that we created fantasist robots that are haunting the world now.. both US and our military establishment that time are to be blamed....

as musharraf says.. history is history... we both have done big harm to each other.... u will keep on blamng pakistan on kashmir we will keep on blaming indians for bangladesh and balochistan .... till we go back to 1947 and teh UN resolution for plebiscite....Musharraf was abut to solve kashmir and it wud have been solved had he been in power.....

any way... we just want these linatucs to be crushed so that pakistan prospers again just like it did during Musharrafs regime...

Preslers amendments came into effect when Pakistan was asked to give up all its nuclear devices and provide a certificate every year that it does not posses any nuclear device otherwise the aid to Pakistan will be severely cut. Pakistan refused and reiterated that we will eat grass than to surrender. US acted in its interest in making this demand.

Under GW Bush senior all aid to Pakistan was cut these were the same sanctions imposed on India earlier. Pakistan paid around 600 million for F-16 us refused to give F-16 and refused to pay on grounds that Pakistan had received nearly 800 million dollars in aid.

It is a false believe that you fought the war for US. Mr. Zia had already started to support insurgency in Afganistan. President Jimmy Carter offered 400 Millon to Pakistan Mr. Zia refused. It wasn’t under Regan’s Presidency that US stepped in with its money and weapons to assist Pakistan with war that Pakistan was involved. You are lucky that US came to aid.

Do you the time in brief history of Pakistan when it was fully self sufficient? From 1962 to 1965 until your army initiated operation Jibralter and launched a surprise attack on India. Pakistan had healthy trade surplus with India and climbing. I still have an electric fan that my dad bought in 1963 Made in Pakistan. You believe you need protection from India.It was Pakistan who decided to cut all trade and ties with India and rest is history.

You want to west to solve all the problems in the world, they can’t. Its up to Pakistan and India to solve their problems. Its up to Palestinians and Isrealis to solve their problems. If its your view that the war must continue until west solve all problems than it will continue and you may start to produce grass fit for human consumption.

 

[Pegasus]

Practice of Slavery in Islamic countries: Where is idea of respect???
Watch this documentary that shows life in Islamic Republic of Mauritania where 100% population is Sunni Muslim. And you will get idea of respect, they got from Islam. They still believe in slavery, because according to them, Quran allows that. Though government of Mauritania abolished slavery in 2007 but socially they practice to have slaves.
We have nothing to offer West....they abolished slavery back in 1833-1870. Saudi Arabia used to have slave markets until 1962, until US forced them to stop the trading of Human being. Mauritania abolished slavery just in 2007.

 

[awan4ever]

Japan is a tiger in chains, does that country has liberty to keep armed forces ?

Regarding Qadafi, yes, he was hero when he stand up for the unification of Muslim world.
He was hero when he tries his best to unified Libya, Egypt and Syria.

He was a hero even though he traveled around with 40 female guards and his personal 'voluptuous' Ukrainian nurse!?? :D
A true Muslim role model indeed! :p

 

[Unicorn]

He was a hero even though he traveled around with 40 female guards and his personal 'voluptuous' Ukrainian nurse!?? :D
A true Muslim role model indeed! :p

I think we can overlook this. It was plan "B" to unite Muslim world I think he almost accomplished his mission just fell short by 17 voluptuous guards. So close.

 

[Unicorn]

Practice of Slavery in Islamic countries: Where is idea of respect???
Watch this documentary that shows life in Islamic Republic of Mauritania where 100% population is Sunni Muslim. And you will get idea of respect, they got from Islam. They still believe in slavery, because according to them, Quran allows that. Though government of Mauritania abolished slavery in 2007 but socially they practice to have slaves.
We have nothing to offer West....they abolished slavery back in 1833-1870. Saudi Arabia used to have slave markets until 1962, until US forced them to stop the trading of Human being. Mauritania abolished slavery just in 2007.

For the weak ignorance creeps into religion.

 

[awan4ever]

Practice of Slavery in Islamic countries: Where is idea of respect???
Watch this documentary that shows life in Islamic Republic of Mauritania where 100% population is Sunni Muslim. And you will get idea of respect, they got from Islam. They still believe in slavery, because according to them, Quran allows that. Though government of Mauritania abolished slavery in 2007 but socially they practice to have slaves.
We have nothing to offer West....they abolished slavery back in 1833-1870. Saudi Arabia used to have slave markets until 1962, until US forced them to stop the trading of Human being. Mauritania abolished slavery just in 2007.

Dont get bogged down by the word 'slavery' .
You should read the rights of a slave in Islam. Whoever thought of giving 'rights' to a slave 14 centuries ago?
They read more like todays labor laws.
Freedom is a very relative term. A person working 3 jobs to pay his bills isnt really a free man either.

 

[Unicorn]

Dont get bogged down by the word 'slavery' .
You should read the rights of a slave in Islam. Whoever thought of giving 'rights' to a slave 14 centuries ago?
They read more like todays labor laws.
Freedom is a very relative term. A person working 3 jobs to pay his bills isnt really a free man either.

Rights and Slave do not go together. In the History of slavery in US conditions of slavery were legislated several times. That does not change anything. Relationship of an employee and employer has rights for both parties.

Freedom is not a relative term for those who rather die free than to live in slavery.
Those who surrender to slavery in order to pay bills are the weak of the society they don't deserve it.

 

[adnan_younus]

Please refer to an authentic islamic scholar on slavery... and not use bloggers for justifications and counter justifications...

Rights and Slave do not go together. In the History of slavery in US conditions of slavery were legislated several times. That does not change anything. Relationship of an employee and employer has rights for both parties.

Freedom is not a relative term for those who rather die free than to live in slavery.
Those who surrender to slavery in order to pay bills are the weak of the society they don't deserve it.