Views On News Dr Shahid Masood - 9th December 2010 - Zaid Hamid

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Senator (1k+ posts)
Religion is a very destructive power which should never be the base for Politics and state.
Rest I do not agree with Iqbal on several issues. His own son says that "Subha ka iqbal aur hai aur shaam ka aur".

Iran has never followed Hazrat Umar, Mr Zaid, they are shia and dont prefer hazrat Umar. We are not azzholes. Chakkar na do baba g.

If Hazrat Umar's system was so perfect why immediately after him, hazrat Usman and Hazrat Ali got killed? And that PERFECT SYSTEM was broken into one Monarchy running by Amir Moaaviya and one Khilafat running by hazrta Ali.

Even if we take the hypothesis that like hazrat Umar chose 5 men for Khalifa-to-be, we should do that system now. How would you find a person like Umar NOW who has same level of wisdom and sincerity. Keep in view the fact that not all Sahaba liked Hazrat Umar's committee.

Without democracy, Mr Ziad, how would you elect a Khalifa? Who will decide? YOU? Mulla Umar? Osama bin Ladan? Saudi Shah? Nawaz Shareef? Zardari? Kindly elaborate who will choose Khalifa, what would be the process?

How would you ensure that Khilaafat would result in social justice and it wont become a toy in the hands of Royalty like it was in the 19th century in Turkey and through out the history of Islam.

If Khilafat is THE BEST system (we dont even know if its a system or what) why after the death of Prophet SAW, within 50 years, there was NO Khilafat? Why did it end after hazrat Ali when we had many BEST MEN of all times (Sahaba) still alive, at that time? If they could not run Khilafat how can a person after 1500 years is expected to run it?

Cant you find any basis to gain power other then Religion?

Khuda kay liye Khuda kay deen per tars khao aur issay apni Siyasat ki bheent na charhao.
 

pappufromindia

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
i really like farzana b,how sensible she is.just like my class teacher...wonderful.:)
and badman siting beside her:angry_smile:.complete nonsense.
america should take care of him with a drone attack;)
 

abeypk

Citizen
This women is CRAP, i know has as i study in same universty that she teaches, she is west paid agent that is upto develop thought among students that pakistan is secular country and islam has nothing to do with politics, she once denied a girl wearing hijab to enter a debate within universty, and she is also upto propoganda about Allama iqbal, i have heard student that she said Iqbal has nothing to do with reality, and iqbal was emotional poet, Zaid hamid did well to hammer her on on knees. She was trying to potrey that an islamic ideology based country like iran had no women rights, thanks Alllah zaid hamid replied her about 76 % work force that comprises of women in iran, i myself have been to iran and people are really happy with their President, their ideology is based on islam, women are not forced to wear jijab but i have seen many places women urge pakistani women to wear chaddar properly. Islam is not to impose its about getting ones thought upto a standard that she or he will feel easy and proud to be muslim.
 

abeypk

Citizen
Juda Ho Deen Siasat sei To Reh Jati hie Changaizii,
For a Muslim or Muslim state Islam is the basic ideology. As being a muslim we believe Islam is a religion that highlights/guides all aspect and issues regarding humen kind till Judgment day. a women like her thinks that religion has nothing to do with politics, to me politics is based on religion, specially in islam Allah has provided and guided us how to be ruler, how to rule a nation, and Prophet Mohammad PBUH has practically shown us with his deeds.

As far as women rights and minorities Islam is only religion that has given women rights more then any religion in this world, before islam babygirl were being mudered and burried alive, Islam is the religion that honoured women with relations like Mother, Sister, wife, daughters. Prophet Mohammad PBUH used to stand in respect and honour of beloved daughter Bibi Fatima A.s. And about minorities again islam has given them full rights within an islamic state, they should be thankfull to Pakistan as their worship places pre partition are still managed well by our representatives, They are allowed to worship freely. In pakistan Muslim is being killed on daily basis, its very rear that a minority person is killed, these so called scholors can see a minority incident happening but they cant see muslims being killed on regular basis, dron attack kills inocent women, childrens, oldman but who cares about them, only this they care about is highlight a women being punished by talibans. What about hundreds of those who are dying on daily basis ?

To we cant catgorize women right seperatly, it is an issue of Law And Order, make law and order strict we shell seee positive change, no men or women would be abused or murdered.


Thanks
 

mak1981

MPA (400+ posts)
@ 6:45[1st utube video].Uncle with red cap cracks joke of this century[hilar][hilar]

Shaitan Ji "Jaisa naam waisa bayan"
Bandar kia janay adrak ka maza pehlay iqbal ko parho phir bolo. Inspired by the West jinhoon nay Muslims ki research chura chura ka aaj naam kamaya hay.
 

PAINDO

Siasat.pk - Blogger
i really like farzana b,how sensible she is.just like my class teacher...wonderful.:)
and badman siting beside her:angry_smile:.complete nonsense.
america should take care of him with a drone attack;)


SARDAR ALLA LATIFA TERY BARY TE NAHI JEDEY WICH PAPU MAR JANDA AY :lol:
 

shehreyar

MPA (400+ posts)
hay farzana bari so calld haqoqay naswan sculer azm .awrat ki azadi ki batein karnay wali ladeen jin ko aslam or mazhab kay nam pay mut par jati hay jin ka khuda azadi jika mazhab azadi so calld azadijis mulak nam pakistan hay jis ka matla (lailaha elala )hay us ko kahti hay kay us ki pahchan mazhab nahi honi chahiya allah garat karay aysay islam dushmaon ko.awrat ki azadi jis mulak ka nara hay wahan worat piyar kisi say karti hay shadi kisi say karti hay or bachay kisi or kay paydah karti hay. my foot azadi:angry_smile:
 

Sky_faith

Councller (250+ posts)
current system support only bitches and pigs..so we need this system because pakistan is not a Islamic country. for those who think are big time fool. Pakistani piece of Land is Allah gifted 27th Ramdan for practicing Islam and Thank less pakistani nation worst nation on the earth so far who even make corruption in Hajj (better eat own shit)...
Sir Zaid Hamid you are the best of the best a true Muslim and human but you are trying to teach animals like this bitch (who talk about rights to live with liberty like in western but not Allah's rights for us, Islamic right on us being Muslim) lols...what nation we are.....worst nation on the earth ...mod of pigs
 

Sky_faith

Councller (250+ posts)
this bitch says ...state does not have to have any religion.....why other countries has faith and religions lols...this world moved on faith and belief system from religions but anyway...she need liberty like pigs ....she is female pig....rest you all know what female pig does
 
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pappufromindia

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
this means Islam is against woman liberty ..and she talk about liberty like western ...she is female pig ....who need something else....she don't know what a respect woman has in west. i saw this respect all time...lols....idiots look at your sister and mother at home the way you treat them and compare western sister and mothers respect ...do you have any sister and mother at home ?
ur thoughts show ur charector.i can understand so called mard like u.
 

tiger54

MPA (400+ posts)
if only our people had the sense of supporting the right people, we wldnt be dealing with zardari right now!!
Very intelligent lady, talking so much sense and good voice too (clap), but hardly any supportive post for her. :(
 

prabhumust

Voter (50+ posts)
iqbal ne adrak ki baat nahin ki hay jahil insan!
iqbal ki shayari aazadi hay na ke islami dahshatgardi samajh aai?
Shaitan Ji "Jaisa naam waisa bayan"
Bandar kia janay adrak ka maza pehlay iqbal ko parho phir bolo. Inspired by the West jinhoon nay Muslims ki research chura chura ka aaj naam kamaya hay.
 

Young_Blood

Minister (2k+ posts)
Insaan k amaal uss k face se zahir hotay hein,,,
Iss khatoon ka aap sirf face dekh lijiay,, aap ko iss aurat ke shekhsiat ka andaza ho jaey ga,,
Ye American $ per palnay wali,,, kabhi na pakistan ke bhalaie ka sochein ge aur na kabhi Islam ke,,
ye aur in jesi la tadaad insani haqooq ke org main kaam kerne wali,, sab ke sab American aur Jews k agenday per kaam ker rahi hein,,
aap sirf iss Farzana Bari ko he na dekhein,, aur bohat c aisi NGO wali aurton k faces dekh lijiay, un ke soch jaaniay, aap ko khud andaza ho jaey ga k ye Pakistan main kon sa nizaam chahti hein,, ye chahti hein k hamari maain, behnein, betiyaa bhe western culture adopt karein, aurat jo kuch marzi karey mard kuch na ker sakay,
ye hein asal black sheeps,, i dont know k ye log terrorists k haath kiun nahi churhtey,,
 

Sky_faith

Councller (250+ posts)
ur thoughts show ur charector.i can understand so called mard like u.
don't worry about me and my character and being mard. women like U need liberty like ........ in fact u don't like respect that already given U ....anyway u don't know the meaning of respect so why debate ...live your life with so call liberty where woman is deprive day n night...and u like that..lol
 

Marwat

Citizen
i have a point o make here.....if religion has nothing to do with a state....as Mme has mentioned here.....then why we made Pakistan...and what was the point to have a seprate home land.......i believe its THE RELIGION that gives a strong base for a country to operate ina certain way.....and if Pakistan will not exist as a pure Islamic country then........what it makes for me between Pakistan and any other country in the world to be my home land........means...then for me Pakistan is like any other country for me.....which i never like to be.....and Pakistan was made with belief to be a Muslim state for Muslim people...where all minorities can live with full assurance of religious freedom.
 
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pakstar

Guest
Such a pity, Dr. Shahid Masood did not balance this debate by calling a legend Zaid Hamid and calling a cottage analyst whoever this lady is.

Dr. Shahid masood janab zaid hamid liay koi akal mand admi laou.. is lady ko basics ki samaj nahi hay. yeh kia baat keray gi aik advance speaker say...

isay Allama Iqbal Baywaqoof nazar atay hein.. wo bar bar baat badaltay hein..
Islam isay sirf mazham nazar ata ha.. yeh pata hi nahi kay Islam Deen hay... aur Allah nay is deen ko makamal kia ha.. Quran may likha ha and she says k islam say riaasat nahi chal saktai..


Shame on this lady
 

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