Tsunami: PTIs rise in Pakistani politics (Detailed Analysis)

Bilal Haider

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Aoa dear members of siasat.pk

My friend Yasir Hussain Sheikh (
@yasirsheikh) has written a blog "
Tsunami: PTIs rise in Pakistani politics" in which he did detailed personal analysis of PTI's tsunami (as mentioned by IK several times). He has also included recent IRI survey's and PTI's downfall. You may agree with his analysis or not, but I am sharing for open discussion to get better picture. I appreciate his dedication, time and efforts to write this as it was much needed for aam aadmi to understand this Trunami phenomenon.

http://rugpundits.com/2012/12/24/tsunami-ptis-rise-in-pakistani-politics/

@Trolls: please stay away
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Bilal Haider

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
I disagree with him on bogus voters point at the end as I think by bogus voters, ECP meant voters with fake ID's plus with wrong addresses etc. So basically you can't just remove all bogus voters, there might be huge "bogus voters" whose addresses could be corrected and thus can't be just subtracted as whole.

Please correct me if i'm wrong.
 

AhsanAltaf1

Minister (2k+ posts)
I disagree with him on bogus voters point at the end as I think by bogus voters, ECP meant voters with fake ID's plus with wrong addresses etc. So basically you can't just remove all bogus voters, there might be huge "bogus voters" whose addresses could be corrected and thus can't be just subtracted as whole.

Please correct me if i'm wrong.


brother according to my information bogus voters are the fake voters ,,, with fake cnic no , I am not sure ,,, please correct me if I am wrong thanks
 

kakajee

Minister (2k+ posts)
I am not sure about the rural areas specially that of Punjab and whether they have the will, the understanding and courage to vote for a new party such as PTI.

My point is Pakistani nation still hasn't come to a point where it sees the things critically and then act critically. The same old, tried and tested thugs will be voted in again and though younger generation has started awakening in the rural areas probably not as much as in urban cities, whether this translates into votes on election day remains to be seen.

One thing is sure PTI vote bank is growing and it will grow. That has got to do with the natural charisma and achievements of IK over a period of his life. Example being, my younger cousin who will turn 18 next month and if he is given NIC in time, he is all set to vote for PTI.

Secondly people are desperate for a change. First they showed their hunger for the change on 20th Oct 2011 and then on the recent Dr. Qdari's jalsa. People coming out on streets in millions is a sign of frustration and anger.

Lets see what happens whether this nation has learned the lessons from its past or not and whether IK and PTI's popularity will bring the masses to the polling station on election day. One thing is for sure though, these are desperate times and desperate times always ask for desperate measures.A few political steps that need to be considered are:

1). Pakistan rides on waves, just like its cricket team. IK knows this fact that just like his team who was down and out and then rose to the occasion and energized itself, Pakistani nation will also rise to the occasion and he also knows that he will have to create 'waves' for that right before the start of the elections.

2). The margin of victory on 100 seats in the previous elections was less than 10k votes which is basically nothing. This gap can be easily bridged with the slogan of PTI and IK and also because of the removal of bogus votes.

3). both these ruling parties and thugs will not be able to blatantly use the resources and state machinery once a neutral care-taker setup will be in Islamabad. In march, april, there is going to be a huge huge energy crisis looming over the country as the government has nothing to avert it. People will be on streets once again and this will go against them.

4). Inflation too is going to be sky high in the next few months due to the constant devalue of the currency.
 

GreenMaple

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
This is the most elaborate, unbiased analysis I have seen anywhere; well researched and compiled.
Congratulations to the authors for their excellent work, and thanks for sharing.
 

shah5ap

Senator (1k+ posts)
Love Imran=Vote Imran=Vote PTI change Pakistan. InshahAllah PTI 21 million say bhi ziyada votes lay kar Logon ko heran o shushdar kar lay gi.
 

Bilal Haider

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
This is the most elaborate, unbiased analysis I have seen anywhere; well researched and compiled.
Congratulations to the authors for their excellent work, and thanks for sharing.

Yup, Yasir is my friend and he's die hard PTI fan.. but to be honest, this analysis is quite unbiased :)
 

Bilal Haider

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
21 million votes to PTI mean 2/3rd Majority in the Parliament

But for that every single PTI member needs to bring out 2 other people on polling day.. and it can be possible as i know several of my friends who r not registered PTI members but are eager to vote for PTI in coming elections.. so very much possible
 

Bilal Haider

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
brother according to my information bogus voters are the fake voters ,,, with fake cnic no , I am not sure ,,, please correct me if I am wrong thanks

I am not sure either my friend.. but I hope k u're right and bogus means fake CNIC.. which means total elimination of these bogus voters!
 

Bilal Haider

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
I am not sure about the rural areas specially that of Punjab and whether they have the will, the understanding and courage to vote for a new party such as PTI.

My point is Pakistani nation still hasn't come to a point where it sees the things critically and then act critically. The same old, tried and tested thugs will be voted in again and though younger generation has started awakening in the rural areas probably not as much as in urban cities, whether this translates into votes on election day remains to be seen.

One thing is sure PTI vote bank is growing and it will grow. That has got to do with the natural charisma and achievements of IK over a period of his life. Example being, my younger cousin who will turn 18 next month and if he is given NIC in time, he is all set to vote for PTI.

Secondly people are desperate for a change. First they showed their hunger for the change on 20th Oct 2011 and then on the recent Dr. Qdari's jalsa. People coming out on streets in millions is a sign of frustration and anger.

Lets see what happens whether this nation has learned the lessons from its past or not and whether IK and PTI's popularity will bring the masses to the polling station on election day. One thing is for sure though, these are desperate times and desperate times always ask for desperate measures.A few political steps that need to be considered are:

1). Pakistan rides on waves, just like its cricket team. IK knows this fact that just like his team who was down and out and then rose to the occasion and energized itself, Pakistani nation will also rise to the occasion and he also knows that he will have to create 'waves' for that right before the start of the elections.

2). The margin of victory on 100 seats in the previous elections was less than 10k votes which is basically nothing. This gap can be easily bridged with the slogan of PTI and IK and also because of the removal of bogus votes.

3). both these ruling parties and thugs will not be able to blatantly use the resources and state machinery once a neutral care-taker setup will be in Islamabad. In march, april, there is going to be a huge huge energy crisis looming over the country as the government has nothing to avert it. People will be on streets once again and this will go against them.

4). Inflation too is going to be sky high in the next few months due to the constant devalue of the currency.


Totally agreed with u bro.. even in my gaon which is in Dist. Toba Tek Singh, people r not looking for party, but rather focusing on electables to vote and it doesnt bother them which party he joins later.. n that electable was present in PML-N jalsa there.. so u're right k our nation still needs to wake up from deep sleep particularly South Punjab, Sindh etc. But again, people seem desperate for change.. It would be great if somehow PTI manages to get attention of undecided voters and somehow manage to pull them out on polling day.. it could decide fate of this nation..
 

GreatIK

Councller (250+ posts)
brother according to my information bogus voters are the fake voters ,,, with fake cnic no , I am not sure ,,, please correct me if I am wrong thanks

This is what @Maqsood Ansari said on Insaf.pk website in response to the same question about the bogus votes:


Data presented is taken from official site of election commission of Pakistan. Pls see below link:
http://www.ecp.gov.pk/VoterStats.aspx
You can see that un-verified votes are subtracted from 2007 Votes and Nadra Augmented (increased) votes are added to make the total votes for 2011. This proved that un-verified votes are deleted. Hope this is good enough for clarification.
Regards
Maqsood
 

CoolDool

Minister (2k+ posts)
But for that every single PTI member needs to bring out 2 other people on polling day.. and it can be possible as i know several of my friends who r not registered PTI members but are eager to vote for PTI in coming elections.. so very much possible

You know what, in my family I am only registered member of PTI and guess what I will make at least 20 people (Insha Allah) to vote for PTI
 

ealtaf

Minister (2k+ posts)
[h=1]Tsunami: PTI’s rise in Pakistani politics[/h]POSTED BY YASIR H. SHEIKH DECEMBER 24, 2012 3 COMMENTS
FILED UNDER BALUCHISTAN, KARACHI, KHYBER PAKHTUNKHWA, MUTTAHIDA QAUMI MOVEMENT, PAKISTAN, PAKISTAN MUSLIM LEAGUE (N),PAKISTAN PEOPLES PARTY, PAKISTAN TEHREEK-E-INSAF, PPP, PTI, PUNJAB, SINDH, TSUNAMI
Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf or PTI has emerged as a new – some say ‘third’ – political force in Pakistani politics in the last one year or so. I have had many interactions with Jakob – fellow blogger at Rug Pundits – about PTI phenomenon and he suggested that I should write about its rise. That left me in a fix as PTI has been kept under microscope all this while with each move has been extensively discussed, rebuffed, criticized, appreciated and laughed at. There was very little room for someone like me to add to PTI-discussion since everyone from local news channels, newspapers, magazines to international media had covered Imran Khan’s popularity and his rise extensively. Having said that, there was no systematic scientific study to gauge the impact of PTI in the upcoming general elections scheduled to be held in the mid of 2013. What little study has been studied, was confined to some well-known national and international surveys like PEW Poll or IRI.[h=2]IRI Survey (August 2012)[/h]According to latest IRI survey that was released in August 2012, PTI has overall 36% approval rating at national level and was placed second after PMLN’s 43% approval rating but doing better than current government in Islamabad, PPP’s 21%. Let’s have a look at the pie-charts for each province and discuss this further in detail:
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IRI Survey (July-August 2012) [Data]
PTI standings in KP & BaluchistanIn provinces, PTI is doing better than rivals in two smaller but most affected provinces in the ongoing US war in Afghanistan, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Baluchistan. People have tried both, right-wing Muttahida Mujlis-e-Amal , or MMA, an alliance of religious parties and left-wing PPP and ANP, in the last two terms and saw no change in policy and their circumstances where they have to face terror every day. Pakistan Muslim League (Nawaz), or commonly referred as PMLN, is a distant second in both the provinces and trying to lure in some strong political candidates and families to guarantee them some political strength in these provinces. However, the situation may not overly change in their favor in a short-span due to lack of any mentionable party presence there.PTI in SindhIn Sindh, a south-eastern province with the most populous city of Karachi, has been traditionally a stronghold of Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) of Bhutto’s. The rural part of Sindh was dominated by PPP vote bank and PPP is still the party to beat in that area. No other major party, including PMLN and PTI (placed second despite any concrete political activity in the rural areas) are in a position to challenge PPP in rural areas, but things have been moving recently and Sindhi nationalist parties and PML(F) a faction of PML lead by Pir Pagaro of Hurs is gaining momentum due to incompetence, mis-governance and corruption of PPP government in the province. Another bone of contention between Sindhi nationalists and PPP was current regime’s concession to Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) to divide the province into two local bodies systems; one for Karachi and the other for the rest of the Sindh. Nationalists see it as a move to concede to MQM’s demand to divide Sindh province into two. Two major urban centers of the province, Karachi and Hyderabad, housing mostly Urdu-speaking populous, is dominated by MQM. MQM rules the city of Karachi with an iron fist and it will be difficult for any party, including PTI despite its massive rally in December last year, to win national assembly seats from Karachi if any.PTI in PunjabThis brings us to the hub of political activity and power-center of Pakistan; Punjab province. The province has been ruled 5 times in the last 6 tenures (spanning over 30 years) by Sharif brothers lead PMLN when it wrestled province’s control from PPP during General Zia-ul-Haq regime. Punjab, mostly inhabited by large middle-class conscious of what each political party has to offer, is the first to welcome any change. It is the province where PPP has been drastically shrinking over the last 5 years, mostly because it is seen as corrupt and partly due to the efforts of PMLN government in the province (opposition party in the center). One power’s demise gives way to another’s rise – PTI on the other hand has quickly filled the void and although PMLN still enjoys a better position, it is under pressure from PTI’s rising popularity in Punjab. This map will help us see the sheer dominance that PMLN enjoys in upper and central Punjab districts:
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PML (both N and Q factions) vs PPP in Punjab (2008 elections)
PTI is the party that appeals to urban populous and Punjab housing 5 of the 8 major urban centers of the country, has seen bulk of the PTI’s political activity. A recent JWT survey (discussed in detail later), conducted in 8 major cities of Pakistan, also confirm PTI’s massive appeal to the young voters who want change. PTI is vying for power in the next term and has challenged PMLN in the province; the blatant attacks on Punjab government’s use of funds and mis-governance and the bulk of activity in PMLN dominated areas speaks volume about the route PTI is going to take. This is understandable as many political analysts also believe that PTI has to conquer Punjab in order to make a government in the Islamabad. Although, PTI has not slowed down on its attack on PMLN’s provincial government, it has also recently started a drive to connect with voters in the mostly rural South Punjab where PPP is receding. South Punjab, according to current constituency delimitations, has 68 national assembly seats which can be make or break for both PTI and PMLN if they are to form next government in the center. PPP and to some extent PML(Q) which heavily relied on political heavy-weights to win seats from somewhat feudal south of the province are fast losing their political candidates to the rival PMLN faction. PTI on the other hand has heavily invested in the slogan of ‘Change’ and has vowed youth and not-aligned voters of the past.[h=2]IRI Surveys: Feb 2012 vs. Aug 2012[/h]There has been a lot of talk regarding PTI’s downward trend after the second IRI survey of political parties standings was released in August 2012 which showed that PTI has lost some ground to rival PMLN in Punjab, which resulted in its standing being affected on overall national graph. However, this is not entirely true. After a honeymoon period where PTI grew exponentially in the year 2010-2011, the graph shows that PTI has actually consolidated its ground affectively against the onslaught of Pakistan’s highly volatile TV and print media that can be exploited easily with the use of government funds. PTI in this regard has heavily relied on social media; facebook, twitter and group messaging services like PrintIt. Here is the comparison which shows that little has changed on ground for both PTI and PMLN despite brouhaha that is being raised in TV’s political talk shows:
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IRI Survey: August 2012 [Data] vs Feb 2012 [Data]
One interesting aspect of this comparison is that in the second survey, almost all parties lost rating but their average remains almost the same. PTI was able to create positive vibes of change in 2010-2011 through excessive campaigning and street protests and got general public interested in the regime change, but that positive vibe gave way to frustration after highly negative reporting in Pakistani TV and print media in the year 2012 and all parties have been on the losing end as the result.
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Voters Density (by District) [Data]
[h=2]Young Urban Voters[/h]A total of 37.2 million fake votes were expunged from 2008 electoral lists and 40 million voters were corrected and new voters added. These new voters who have never voted before is the vote bank the new emerging political force PTI is eyeing in the coming elections. Here is a pie-chart showing why PTI thinks that mass youth support can propel it to the victory stand in the general elections; 40.5 million or 48% of total voters are in the youth age bracket of 18-35 years which PTI announced to give 25% of the party tickets in the elections.
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Registered voters by age [Data] Source: ECP
A recent survey released by JWT in December 2012, asked youth in the 8 major urban centers of Pakistan, what party they will vote for in the upcoming elections. In 5 major cities, Lahore, Peshawar, Islamabad/Rawalpindi (twin cities), Multan and Quetta, PTI emerged as the most popular political party amongst youth. Faisalabad is still stronghold of Punjab’s ruling PMLN, and Karachi and Hyderabad of MQM. In a surprise result, Jamaat-e-Islami (JI), the biggest religious party, is second-most popular in Hyderabad out bidding both MQM and PPP – both all-powerful parties of Sindh vying for control in Hyderabad.
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JWT Survey (Dec 2012) [Data]
One cursory look at the above graph reveals the mass support amongst youth that PTI enjoys revealing it has indeed been able to stir up interest in Pakistan’s otherwise apolitical youth. There is one interesting aspect to this survey’s result depicted in the second map below. If you plot 5 urban centers where PTI has scored big, they all belong in upper part of the country; in Punjab and Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa. Quetta too lies in the Pushtun belt of the Baluchistan province. PTI has not faired badly in two other cities, Faisalabad – in central Punjab – a big financial center of Punjab and the country’s financial hub – Karachi. PTI which has around 15% approval rating in Sindh, surprisingly, has no youth support in Hyderabad which is second biggest city of the province.PTI, however, does not rely on urban youth for its popularity and Imran Khan specifically invested his time and efforts in the students’ wing of PTI – Insaf Students Federation (ISF). ISF formed in 2007 has already become Pakistan’s biggest student body and PTI thinks of ISF as its trump card to fuel its election campaign and propel it to victory on the polling day. The impact can be judged from the fact that all candidates fielded by ISF in intra-party elections for Union Councils (UC) in Hazara division won easily against established local political groups.[h=2]PTI activity impact in year 2011-2012[/h]PTI, along with Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) and some other nationalist parties, boycotted 2008 general election on the pretext that it will not participate in an election held by a dictator; then President General Pervez Musharraf. PMLN, opposition party in center, also initially boycotted the elections but was forced to participate after US pressure and several attempts by Zardari, then new co-chairperson of PPP after Benazir Bhutto’s assassination. This left PTI on the streets and it has been mobilizing people on the streets on every domestic or national issue of note lately to get its message across to both people and the parliament. Although, PTI had been on the streets in the last five years, especially during Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry’s restoration movement lead by lawyers, but has been most active in the last two years, 2011 and 2012, with their political rallies, protests and membership campaigns.PTI has done massive membership campaign during the two middle quarters of 2012 and has been able to mobilize its supporters, new youth voters and vowed a large chunk of silent majority that does not vote in elections. PTI claims to have made more than 10 million members during their membership drive and has finally announced 7 million verified party members.This map may not provide us complete picture of what impact PTI may have eventually but it may give us a hint. The attendance data used to plot this map was derived from PTI’s own claims and different media sources. According to the compiled data, PTI had mobilized 1.5 to 2 million supporters in the last two years. To some analysts, it has seized the initiative and brought youth and silent majority of traditionally un-interested voters to its side.[h=2]Tsunami: Projected Impact in Elections 2013[/h]According to a recent verdict by Supreme Court of Pakistan (SCP), where it directed National Database and Registration Authority (NADRA) to help take out fake voters from 2008 electoral lists, about 53% of the total voters were bogus. Sindh, Baluchistan and FATA areas had more than half of its voters on the lists curbed as fake voters. This will further dent old political parties’ prospects that have had intelligence agencies support and used fake votes as part of the rigging campaigns in the past; the biggest examples quoted in this regard are electoral victories of PMLN in 1990 and 1997, and PMLQ victory in 2002. A recent SCP order on the famous Asghar Khan Case, which proved that Pakistan’s premier spy agency Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) directed funds to its favored candidates in 1990 general elections to help them win against Benazir Bhutto lead PPP. The money had favorable response and Nawaz Sharif had been able to form government and become Prime Minister for the first time. His second victory in 1997, a massive two-third majority this time, has also been criticized; although, he was poised to win but then President Farooq Ahmad Khan Leghari favored Nawaz Sharif and helped him achieve such a big manufactured mandate.I earlier shared a graph that showed 53% fake voters expunged by ECP from 2008 voters lists. Here it is again:And the votes polled for each major political party in comparison with PTI’s members:If we fix this graph by removing percentage fake votes and expect each PTI member to influence 2 others on the polling day, the projection is something similar to this:This is what PTI Chairman Imran Khan refers to as ‘Tsunami of Change’. However, we have no way to judge if the final results will be as skewed as above graph and we expect old political forces to do better than this but despite their vast experience and long presence in the political arena, they have little that can attract disgruntled masses after their dismal performance in the financial disastrous time. In my personal opinion, though, the margin of victory may not be as skewed as the above graph but if PTI is able to hold its ground until the polling day, it will take clear majority to form next government.
 

zhohaq

Minister (2k+ posts)
Excellent research work.

PTI main problem now is organizational it should get its election done ASAP.
And start grass root campaigning in evry constuiencies.
It should also figure out where it can cut deals with other out of power parties.
Pakistani electorate is mostly undecided. PTI can regain its momentum within a month.
 

سعد

Minister (2k+ posts)
پی ٹی آئ کا مقابلہ کوئی پارٹی نہیں کر سکتی ... صرف جعلی ووٹ مقابلہ کریں گے

Anyway ... best analysis .... hats off Sir
 

IhsanIlahi

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
But for that every single PTI member needs to bring out 2 other people on polling day.. and it can be possible as i know several of my friends who r not registered PTI members but are eager to vote for PTI in coming elections.. so very much possible

I and my 2 brothers + 10 cousins + 15 friends are not registered memebers ,,,, but we all are PTI voters,,,,, Total=28
Now think urself.......... the writer is logical and right in his analysis
 

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