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Re: Traitor or Patriot ?
Hamid Mir how much you got to write all this without knowing the facts and misguiding Pakistanies? Point to remember that Hamid Mir is an agent and "BIKAO MALL" any one who can pay his price can get him say any thing. He is a black mailer. He was the one who met Usama and by applying some chemical on Usama's body, the foreign agencies were able to keep a track of his location for more than 3 months. it was before much 9-11 when western powers were not hounding Usama's blood.this one example is enough to know Hamid Mir.
Hamid Mir how much you got to write all this without knowing the facts and misguiding Pakistanies? Point to remember that Hamid Mir is an agent and "BIKAO MALL" any one who can pay his price can get him say any thing. He is a black mailer. He was the one who met Usama and by applying some chemical on Usama's body, the foreign agencies were able to keep a track of his location for more than 3 months. it was before much 9-11 when western powers were not hounding Usama's blood.this one example is enough to know Hamid Mir.
pakistan first
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
I think the topic of the thread suits for Hamid Mir also, people should know that Hamid Mir has personal agenda and he is no way near to Patriotic or sincere to Pakistan. Kamran Khan is much more sincere to Pakistan but Hamid Mir, who never being known to world before he interviwed Osama. His sympathy to Talibaan is open to everybody. Before Lal Masid action , he was insisting govt to take action against Abdul Aziz and after operation, very next day, he changed his angel. His personal feelings about Musharraf is known to everybody and sympathy to NS, since he is getting handsome amount from him is also open to everybody. He brings only those participants in his program with whom he abuse Musharraf, that;s it. In a lot of areas people dont want to see GEO just becuase of its biased stance. People like Hamid Mir should be exposed in front of the world. Akbar Bugtee is no way near to Pakistan, if any body has doubt, pl go and ask the common people of Baluchistan. These wadairaas dont ever wanted to do some thing good for their own people since they are afraid that if they get the education then they will stand against them.
Allah will give us strength to differentiate between Patriotic & Traitor or simply between Musharraf & Hamid Mir.
Regards
Allah will give us strength to differentiate between Patriotic & Traitor or simply between Musharraf & Hamid Mir.
Regards
I agree with both of u guys. rana and pakistan_first. Hamid Mir himself is a *******. He is just playing the role with money. Every body can get his columns only behalf of money. So, we can't trust on his whole story.
May be he is right on Bugtee's 1947 vote for Pakistan and may be he is right on gawadar issue. But, if we judge the bugtee's so long life as a beurocrate as well politician, for Baluchistan, why he doe's did anything for poor people's of Baluchistan? Why he didn't made in baluchistan, hospitals, schools, colleges, univercities etc.etc. ???? and most of the most, when Bugtee died in the cave (ghaar), some news papers printed that there was lots of dollars and emonation were there.. Who gave him those dollars and emonations??? Just think about it.....
May be he is right on Bugtee's 1947 vote for Pakistan and may be he is right on gawadar issue. But, if we judge the bugtee's so long life as a beurocrate as well politician, for Baluchistan, why he doe's did anything for poor people's of Baluchistan? Why he didn't made in baluchistan, hospitals, schools, colleges, univercities etc.etc. ???? and most of the most, when Bugtee died in the cave (ghaar), some news papers printed that there was lots of dollars and emonation were there.. Who gave him those dollars and emonations??? Just think about it.....
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commander
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For God's sake what all of you are talking about, this is our habit the people does not suite us we call them traitor. See what is happening is Baluchistan, was it had that much intensity before Mr. Bugtti's killing? In his whole life he never demanded for independent Baluchistan he just demanded for the rights of Baluchistan. We have to admit that in past that province was ignored. And now we have to give them their right other wise it would be disastrous for Pakistan.
by the way... who ignored them?????? once, Bugti got a chance as a Governer, and once as a Chief Minister, why he doesn't did anything about the rights of Baluchistan??
Once Mir Zafar ullah Khan Jamali had been a Prime Minister of Country. Why he doesn't did anything about Baluchistan's rights ???
Now, at present, your Chief Justice, who has a whol countrie's sympathy, why he dosn't do anything about the right of Baluchistan????
They did nothing, they will never do anything, except making of their own property and nothing else......... okay....
Once Mir Zafar ullah Khan Jamali had been a Prime Minister of Country. Why he doesn't did anything about Baluchistan's rights ???
Now, at present, your Chief Justice, who has a whol countrie's sympathy, why he dosn't do anything about the right of Baluchistan????
They did nothing, they will never do anything, except making of their own property and nothing else......... okay....
pakistan first
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
takjhank said:
again well said brother. This is Hamid Mir's new card, since 1 year he was trying to impose article 6 now as he seen nothing happened to that, he changed his angel and now wanted to portrait Bugtee as a hero. This is what Hamid Mir did since his journalism career, his heroes are Osama, Ghazi brothers , Soofi Mohd etc etc. He just wanted to creat unstable situation in Pakistan. Please think who wanted a destablise Pakistan?????? definitely it is India and some other pakistan's enemies and they have no problem to enhance their ill wishes since there are anchors like Hamid Mir are available to fulfill their tasks. It is Pakistan;s unforunate that people like Hamid Mir represents Media. Why not he goes into common people and ask their problem, I bet no body tell Musharraf, everybody will complain about petrol, sugar,flour,load shedding etc etc. And believe me these are reall threads for Pakistan.
Wake up Pakistanis, please try to identify your enemies, they are not outside the border , they are sitting inside right in your living rooms via GEO.
regards,,
yea!!! u r right. I agree with u.... But don't worry. they can't do anything except making the money and nothing else. U know. I spent about 35 years in Pakistan. But might b I watched his program only 4-5 times same as his columns. After coming outside, because of we just interested in Pakistan, that's y we listen these type of bloody idiots. Otherwise, in Pakistan, there is only 1 or 2 % people, who watch such type of show's and read such type of columns. That's y there is no impact of their coloumn's and programs.
shaheedchoudry
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Traitor or Patriot ?
WHAT IS YOUR POINT. HAMID MIR IS BIKAO MAAL. OKAY. NOW HE MET OSAMA ALSO. WHAT DOES THAT PROVE? WHY DON'T YOU CHALLENGE THE THINGS HE WROTE AND GIVE YOUR POINT OF VIEW INSTEAD CALLING HIM THIS AND THAT.rana14801 said:
shaheedchoudry
Minister (2k+ posts)
CAN ANY ONE POINT OUT WHERE IS HAMID MIR WRONG???? PLEASE NO NAME CALLING
shaheedchoudry
Minister (2k+ posts)
PUNJABIS ARE USED TO RECEIVING DEAD BODIES FROM OTHER PROVINCES.Spartacus said:
pakistan first
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
shaheedchoudry said:
dear Chaudary Sahib, I hope being an educated Pakistani, you may take positive from my below comments and will come back with some sensibly attitude. Every person who writes for a newspaper or hosting a talk show is not by default a journalist. Here is a list borrowed from The Elements of Journalism by Bill Kovach and Tom Rosenstiel, my comments in color font.
Journalisms first obligation is to the truth. should show both pictures not truth against Musharraf and hide truth from CJ Iftikhar / NS / AZ. Did u ever noticed whatever be the debate, he tried his best to put Musharraf name in abusing manner and do u see the sight of releive & smile from his face, it is just to show his masters that todays job is completed and "lifafa / suitcase" is halal for him.
Its first loyalty is to the citizens. Pakistani citizens are dying coz of Petrol price, load shedding , sugar crises , flour crises. How many programs or column he wrote for this cause, very few dear since his agenda is just to abuse Musharraf.
Its essence is discipline of verification. His columns / programs consisted of information he got from his own "Zaraeye" nothing cemented all from his mind.
It must serve as an independent monitor of power. Is he independent monitor or paid anchor, u decide please.
It must keep the news comprehensive and proportional. No balance at all,,,,why not he start to ask question to Aitazaz Ahsan about his speeches and famous poem in which he claimed that by restoring CJ the inflation come down, it will be peaceful area ,,etc etc etc. Does he has courage to ask???? No brother.
I sincerely hope that you and my other forum fellows in line with my above comments.
Regards,
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abbasiali
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Re: All Punjabis Participate here
In my opinion, it should be for all Pakistanis. if some have there own difference of opinion, that would be their choice, but that would be a low percentage, but in my opinion, by saying only Punjabis, it goes toward discrimination, what do you think?
In my opinion, it should be for all Pakistanis. if some have there own difference of opinion, that would be their choice, but that would be a low percentage, but in my opinion, by saying only Punjabis, it goes toward discrimination, what do you think?
@abbasiali
agreeeeeeeeed but bunjabion ke khelaf itna propganda kia gia hey keh jhoot bhi haqeeqat lagta hey tamam chotey sobe es propgande ka shikar nazar aatey hain or woh bhi jo punjabion par ab siasi qabza kar ke hukamrani ke khuab dekhtey hain or phir bhi gali punjabion ko deytey hain misal ke taur par aap esi forum par mqm ke workers ki post pareh lain
agreeeeeeeeed but bunjabion ke khelaf itna propganda kia gia hey keh jhoot bhi haqeeqat lagta hey tamam chotey sobe es propgande ka shikar nazar aatey hain or woh bhi jo punjabion par ab siasi qabza kar ke hukamrani ke khuab dekhtey hain or phir bhi gali punjabion ko deytey hain misal ke taur par aap esi forum par mqm ke workers ki post pareh lain
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abbasiali
Guest
Agree with you, but we need to progress towards the highest level of decency, Do you think one person from one particular place could held responsible whole community for his unresponsible attitude, when we have this kind of situation, we have to be responsible and patient, you need to bring your good and best, no matter who ever is spitting, ignorance is the first basic principle in Leadership. you can retaliate, you will get millions in reply, but if you smile and polite in return of bias, you will win the hearts and minds.MQM said:
shaheedchoudry
Minister (2k+ posts)
ASSLAM O ALAIKUM EVERYONE.
CAN PLEASE ANYONE EXPLAIN WHERE HAMID MIR IS WRONG IN THIS COLUMN. PLEASE DON'T TELL ME THAT HE IS A CORRUPT JOURNALIST, HE HAS AN AGENDA, HE IS THIS AND THAT. PLEASE POINT OUT ERRORS IN HIS COLUMN. PLEASE CHALLENGE THE FACTS ETC??????????????
CAN PLEASE ANYONE EXPLAIN WHERE HAMID MIR IS WRONG IN THIS COLUMN. PLEASE DON'T TELL ME THAT HE IS A CORRUPT JOURNALIST, HE HAS AN AGENDA, HE IS THIS AND THAT. PLEASE POINT OUT ERRORS IN HIS COLUMN. PLEASE CHALLENGE THE FACTS ETC??????????????
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commander
Guest
This is Our biggest problem that still we have not transformed in to a single nation, we are divided in to Sindhi , Punjabi, Baluchi and Sarhadi. Did you ever heard from other people that they prefer their state or province over the nation that they belong.
Secondly we are in state of denial that there is no problem in Baluchistan. This was the attitude of our rulers when problems started in East Pakistan, and that remained till we lost it. Every body says that Baluchi Sardars are only one who are responsible for all this, yes they are but not only responsible for these problems. I am ashamed that I don't now the part of my own country and the problems that it is facing. I found these articles, I hope it will help you understanding Baluchistan issue.
Secondly we are in state of denial that there is no problem in Baluchistan. This was the attitude of our rulers when problems started in East Pakistan, and that remained till we lost it. Every body says that Baluchi Sardars are only one who are responsible for all this, yes they are but not only responsible for these problems. I am ashamed that I don't now the part of my own country and the problems that it is facing. I found these articles, I hope it will help you understanding Baluchistan issue.
