To Kashmiris, Is Modi going to do the same as Netanyahu did to Palestinian? (A chat with an Indian)

Altruist

Minister (2k+ posts)
Though both Pakistan & India are beating drums about their last round of skirmishes but there is a lot more than what we see and hear. Following is the sum of a chat that a friend of mine has with an Indian at a forum and it is an eye-opener for many of us.


...... The Indian guy was as opposed to Modi as anyone else on the forum but has a different perspective and believed that Modi has won the war.

............. Modi’s icon is Netanyahu and he is doing the same to Kashmirs as Netanyahu did to Palestinians ......

There is an insurgency in Kashmir and using sentimentalist and populist approaches Modi will likely win the elections. Then under the guise of counter terrorist activity, Modi will push the common people in Kashmiri villages and towns to move to enclaves closer to Pakistani borders. With mass refugees showing up at LOC, Pakistan would’ve no option but to let them in. Exactly what happened with Palestinians going into neighboring Arab countries.

Some internally displaced pockets of refugees will be built on borders with Pakistan New Gaza Strip in Kashmir. He would construct a so-called security wall as is around Gaza and West Bank.

Modi is already working on undoing Indian Constitution sec 35A, which agrees to the principle of Kashmir for Kashmiris.

With that Mahraja Modi would conquer Kashmir from Kashmiris for Hindus. Kashmiris would, unfortunately, end up in refugees camps like Palestinians, and would have to struggle for generations to go back to their homes.

For Israel, it would be a phenomenal win as they would have the largest democracy in the world by their side as a partner in crime!

Israel provides most of the weapons to Maynamar and the military there did the same thing with Rohingas.

Pakistan would make noise but what difference that would make. Indians would say we have to deal with terrorist activity in our country and yes there are internally displaced people in Kashmir on the border with Pakistan, and if Pakistan is concerned about them they should take them because the people want to be Pakistani anyways and shout Pakistan Zindabad all day long.

What Pakistan would be left with are another 3/4 million refugees. Most likely they would be in AJK and Punjab because of language and ethnic ties.

Pakistan's Western provinces hosted Afghan refugees and it was a struggle for the whole country and everyone suffered. Majority of those will end up in Punjab and only time would tell how welcoming and generous Punjab is going to be and whether they would be willing to share their food with millions showing up in their cities and towns and villages.

The world would make noise but in the end, nothing would happen just like refugees from Palestine living in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria etc for over 70 yrs. Afghans living in Pakistan for over 40 yrs., Rohingyas and Syrians and Iraqis and so on ............



What Indian man says makes a lot of sense. You can see that part of it is already happening and the plot is thickening. When a country didn’t have a foreign minister for five years, and Kashmir committee was being run by a faggat, then what else you expect on the world forum? For over two years, India is doing exactly what Israel did to Palestinians and there was no one to plead Kashmir's case on the world forum.

The Twitter minister can’t change world opinion from her tweets. And having phone calls and dinners with world leaders will not gain anything. For over 70 years, beating at UN forums hasn't worked. So Pakistan needs to do something different.....


Flood the internet and have exhibitions around the world showing Indian atrocities in Kashmir.
Let the world see from its own eyes what India is doing to Kashmiris!
 

kakamana

Minister (2k+ posts)
This is quite opposite to what reality is on ground, although it might be good bed time stories for cow dung lovers & hinduata bakh bots. The uprising of kashmiri youth is totally sabotaging whatever Modi agenda is, highly educated young men & women of kashmir will be joining this freedom movement. This pulwama attacked and abusive manner of kashmiri treatment all across india make kashmiri more united then before and it can prove that in the presence of indian forces at multiple crash sites of indian jet & helicopter, kashmiri youth chanting anti indians & pakistani slogan
And biggest proof that so called indian tilted kashmiri leadership too now doing face saving and supporting kashmiri freedom either directly or indirectly. Recent statements & interview of mehbooba mufti & abdullah, both are CMs of kashmir revolted against indian wills as they see ground reality of soon kashmir becoming separated from india and they want there share too somehow in new kashmir
Now what our role is, as if we are living outside pakistan we have to openly & give strong vocal support to kashmir cause
 

Pathfinder

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
to simply put, the indians are following the exact same political path as israhell. I mean to the letter. However the execution is very bad and they have highlighted israeli designs in our region to the world. That's the level of their competence
 

back to the future

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
This is quite opposite to what reality is on ground, although it might be good bed time stories for cow dung lovers & hinduata bakh bots. The uprising of kashmiri youth is totally sabotaging whatever Modi agenda is, highly educated young men & women of kashmir will be joining this freedom movement. This pulwama attacked and abusive manner of kashmiri treatment all across india make kashmiri more united then before and it can prove that in the presence of indian forces at multiple crash sites of indian jet & helicopter, kashmiri youth chanting anti indians & pakistani slogan
And biggest proof that so called indian tilted kashmiri leadership too now doing face saving and supporting kashmiri freedom either directly or indirectly. Recent statements & interview of mehbooba mufti & abdullah, both are CMs of kashmir revolted against indian wills as they see ground reality of soon kashmir becoming separated from india and they want there share too somehow in new kashmir
Now what our role is, as if we are living outside pakistan we have to openly & give strong vocal support to kashmir cause
Please read history of jammu
 

back to the future

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
to simply put, the indians are following the exact same political path as israhell. I mean to the letter. However the execution is very bad and they have highlighted israeli designs in our region to the world. That's the level of their competence
Need to have Sikhs on board
Ik policy of averting war will succeed temporarily and we will face the same crisis again and again
Unless you face the stark reality and take steps to face it successfully pak will face this again and again
Gen Khalid Naeem Lodhi response on the subject has me convinced
Because of US maneuvering Nd backing of India we can see a clear grouping Us Saudi uae and India are one group
PAkistan should reach Russia and China plus Iran and turkey on its side
And keep the economy running but afraid the big devil will not allow this to happen
 

AdamA

Senator (1k+ posts)
Need to have Sikhs on board
Ik policy of averting war will succeed temporarily and we will face the same crisis again and again
Unless you face the stark reality and take steps to face it successfully pak will face this again and again
Gen Khalid Naeem Lodhi response on the subject has me convinced
Because of US maneuvering Nd backing of India we can see a clear grouping Us Saudi uae and India are one group
PAkistan should reach Russia and China plus Iran and turkey on its side
And keep the economy running but afraid the big devil will not allow this to happen

China is doing the same in East Turkestan (Xinjang) to the Uyighurs. Changing the demographics through ethnic cleansing by populating it with Hans. On this issue China, Israel and India are on the same page.
 

PIND-WALA

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I think Kashmiris need to flag bearers in this. 2 weeks ago , when they qere being kicked out of hotels and other places in India, they should have been more vocal.
 

PIND-WALA

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
China is doing the same in East Turkestan (Xinjang) to the Uyighurs. Changing the demographics through ethnic cleansing by populating it with Hans. In this case China, Israel and India are on the same page.
America still leads in this regard. They killed millions of Natives and took over the land and century later made an official apology and case closed.
 

OSP

MPA (400+ posts)
There r 3 major flaws in that theory.
  1. Pakistan is not as naive,helpless,or resourceless as Palestine n arabs.
  2. India is just an ally to USA, not their iligimate child that will get unconditional support from USA or rest of the world.
  3. Modi has already lost moral support within India, he might win elections n i hope he wins, but sikhs, kashmiris,muslims n so many other communities will get far n far away from federal unit. Israel is all jew country, India is full of internal differences.

This is why Pakistans strategy over the past few weeks has been excellent they put India in a situation where they need to repair within the country rather than convenience of probing outside
 

AdamA

Senator (1k+ posts)
I think Kashmiris need to flag bearers in this. 2 weeks ago , when they qere being kicked out of hotels and other places in India, they should have been more vocal.

Easy said than done, and you haven't gauged the hostile atmosphere. In Modi's India there's no Justice, only mob justice. It's more prudent to keep your head down.
 

Admiral

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If Pakistan is not going to support Kashmir and Khalsa movement, Open and All Out .. then the future is not secure.
Khalsas were wiped out from india in 1980s because Pak was busy in Afghanistan.
They have tasted the indian secularism very well during that time.
 

PIND-WALA

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If Pakistan is not going to support Kashmir and Khalsa movement, Open and All Out .. then the future is not secure.
Khalsas were wiped out from india in 1980s because Pak was busy in Afghanistan.
They have tasted the indian secularism very well during that time.
Sikhs have an international conference this year in which they will probably decide to start movement for a seperate country. If that happens , Pakistan should show full support.
 

GreenMaple

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Kashmir is not Palestine. It is mostly tall mountain with undefined and porous borders. It's a perfect place for gorilla war. All that freedom lover and determined Kashmiris need are weapons which can be supplied by Pakistan and perhaps China. Once that happens Indian will flee Kashmir within few months.
 

AdamA

Senator (1k+ posts)
Kashmir is not Palestine. It is mostly tall mountain with undefined and porous borders. It's a perfect place for gorilla war. All that freedom lover and determined Kashmiris need are weapons which can be supplied by Pakistan and perhaps China. Once that happens Indian will flee Kashmir within few months.

Have you seen what these mushriks do to Muslims in East Turkestan (Xinjiang)? Unfortunately, there is no way to upload a video here, but an eye opener is an understatement!
 

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