IndiaGuy
Senator (1k+ posts)
Pakistan is not the problem but people of pakistan are....In 1947 India and pakistan were same country ( including people) but where is pakistan today and where is India?
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Pakistan is not the problem but people of pakistan are....In 1947 India and pakistan were same country ( including people) but where is pakistan today and where is India?
Jack Sparrow
Minister (2k+ posts)
If India is really good friend of China , then why India is supporting and using Dalai Lama.
"Bagal mein churi muh mein ram ram"
Who knows this hypocrite nature of India better than us.
know they will be kicked
Excuse me Mister, Listen to me very carefully, INDIA ( HINDUSTAN ) Don't harbour terriost, fugitive , SUch as Dawood , saeed and many more , You think china is very good friend of pakistan, you people must be real sick, China is nobody friends, China is using you fools, Slowly slowly swallowing Pakistan, and then you see how they will kick your butt, You will only going to here chini paki bhai bhai, They will never ever come and say hindi chini bhai bhai, they will be kicked out, You think india is sleeping, Now way brother
I think its not only pakistani but even muslims have not understood the purpose of creation of pakistan and as a result they have not been able to explain it.
The purpose of paksiatn was not to create division between hindus and muslims or muslim and kaafir. It was to do what the prophet of islam did in case of madinah state and long before him Moses did for children of israel and much earlier Abraham did and long before him noah did.
The quran is all about humanity as a whole doing well. However it is not possible to make everyone everywhere do well at the very same time.
Each prophet tried to make his people see sense but when they failed he took those of his people who heeded him and moved away to create a place as an example to show to the rest people how to live a good life. It is clear from the quran that how those set new nations progressed and prospered till they stopped living according to divine program and so the whole thing was repeated all over again and again.
Sir seyyid ahemd khan, iqbal, jinnah and others before them and after them understood this very clearly but they always were in a minority. Most people believed in supernatural in wrong sense and were superstitious people. They were not educated much nor were they logical and realistic. Also there were always enemies from within and outside that opposed islamic outlook on life. They created trouble. The same happened when idea of pakistan was conceived. People just did not bother to know what the idea behind creation of pakistan really was.
When people are locked in any struggle things just take their own direction beyond the control of anyone. Originally all were happy to struggle for independence of india but then differences began to emerge because of various parties. Muslims are not forbidden to live with anyone so long as they have freedom, justice, fairness, compassion , brotherhood, progress and prosperity. The rest are muslims' personal beliefs and laws. Likewise muslims are not stopped from living with nonmuslims in an islamic state on same basis. All people are allowed freedom for their personal religious beliefs and laws.
So where is the problem? The problem is with people who like to be in positions of power to use and abuse other people at will. Such people are everywhere claiming to be hindus, jews, christians, muslims and even secularists and atheists.
Such people of such mindset and attitude cannot hide themselves if one really tried to know them.
Many people write books to make money and fool others, only people who love humanity and live for others care for others and it is those who need to be listened to.
Jihad is not about killing hindus and jews, it is about fighting against those who take away freedom of people, who practice injustice and unfairness and show cruelty and animosity toward mankind. Who force poverty and ignorance upon mankind.
As far as islam is concerned, people are free to believe what they like and do what they like but islam does not allow people to inflict damage on humanity or to destroy it.
As for nonmuslims, they can help muslims by helping them educate themselves and others. Islam is a very powerful idea and it is succeeding against all odds. All people need to wake up about islam because they will find it helpful.
I think all people should read the quran for themselves and see what it really says and not listen to any mad mullahs.
The purpose of paksiatn was not to create division between hindus and muslims or muslim and kaafir. It was to do what the prophet of islam did in case of madinah state and long before him Moses did for children of israel and much earlier Abraham did and long before him noah did.
The quran is all about humanity as a whole doing well. However it is not possible to make everyone everywhere do well at the very same time.
Each prophet tried to make his people see sense but when they failed he took those of his people who heeded him and moved away to create a place as an example to show to the rest people how to live a good life. It is clear from the quran that how those set new nations progressed and prospered till they stopped living according to divine program and so the whole thing was repeated all over again and again.
Sir seyyid ahemd khan, iqbal, jinnah and others before them and after them understood this very clearly but they always were in a minority. Most people believed in supernatural in wrong sense and were superstitious people. They were not educated much nor were they logical and realistic. Also there were always enemies from within and outside that opposed islamic outlook on life. They created trouble. The same happened when idea of pakistan was conceived. People just did not bother to know what the idea behind creation of pakistan really was.
When people are locked in any struggle things just take their own direction beyond the control of anyone. Originally all were happy to struggle for independence of india but then differences began to emerge because of various parties. Muslims are not forbidden to live with anyone so long as they have freedom, justice, fairness, compassion , brotherhood, progress and prosperity. The rest are muslims' personal beliefs and laws. Likewise muslims are not stopped from living with nonmuslims in an islamic state on same basis. All people are allowed freedom for their personal religious beliefs and laws.
So where is the problem? The problem is with people who like to be in positions of power to use and abuse other people at will. Such people are everywhere claiming to be hindus, jews, christians, muslims and even secularists and atheists.
Such people of such mindset and attitude cannot hide themselves if one really tried to know them.
Many people write books to make money and fool others, only people who love humanity and live for others care for others and it is those who need to be listened to.
Jihad is not about killing hindus and jews, it is about fighting against those who take away freedom of people, who practice injustice and unfairness and show cruelty and animosity toward mankind. Who force poverty and ignorance upon mankind.
As far as islam is concerned, people are free to believe what they like and do what they like but islam does not allow people to inflict damage on humanity or to destroy it.
As for nonmuslims, they can help muslims by helping them educate themselves and others. Islam is a very powerful idea and it is succeeding against all odds. All people need to wake up about islam because they will find it helpful.
I think all people should read the quran for themselves and see what it really says and not listen to any mad mullahs.
hans
Banned
HANS is born in Karachi, Sunni Muslim, Pay Tax to Federal Government, Work for a Semi Government Institute Karachi Airport, lives next to a pan Shop. Goes to offer prayes at Bait ul Mukkarram Masjid, Karachi. So your Intelligence in respect to my origin is very poor.
Now you know, why I keep my profile so hidden.. to speak my mind. And being open and truthful is like praying to Allah SWT.
Now why don't you try to be open and Truthful, give it a try. For a few days it will be painful. but you will feel liberated.
Unicorn
Banned
I never said India is good friend with China bro I said Pakistan and China are best friends.
Why does India supporting Dalai Lama? Because China invaded Tibett and chased the people of Tibet out including Dalai Lama. India has always supported Dalai Lama our position is very clear for the Chinese.
India also supports the Ughar Muslims in China who are the victims of Chinese aggression on daily basis. By the way for the convenience of the Chinese Pakistan has allowed Chinese troops in Gilgit Baltistan making it very convenient for the troops to go over and beat up Ughar MUSLIMS and return back to Gilgit to enjoy Pakistan's hospitality. Who is a Hypocrite?
China knows where we stand on both issues full well so bagal and churi does not apply here despite of our stand Chinese people are visiting India.
I wonder why not even 5000 visitors from China visit Pakistan, I could be wrong with the numbers because the number doesn't justify the expense of keeping stats. Shed some light into this please.
Can you please say a prayer for the Ughars if its not too much to ask. You don't have to do out loud that may offend the Chinese-Thanks
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Unicorn
Banned
Mr. Moughal I agree with you for the most part but I think I would have to disagree with you in some areas.
I don't know very much about Islam correct me if i am wrong I am presuming by saying, when the Prophet migrated to Madina he did not do so because he harbored any hate for the people that he left and he had clear vision and wisdom and knew his purpose.
Same could not be said about migration into Pakistan as a matter of fact vast majority of Pakistani's did not migrated at all. Explain why these two migrations and same when the result of this one turned out to be chaos.
Imranpak
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
1947 was the greatest blow to you where you lost much of united India that you will never get back, the creation of Bangladesh does not avenge that!. Also remember that we took half of Kashmir from you after 1947 that again you have been unable to win back.
All this with Pakistan being ten times smaller in size, we'd have you for breakfast had we been the bigger neighbour but it ain't over yet!
Imranpak
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You Bharatis should know all about getting your ass kicked by the Chinese after 1962 affair!!!:lol: Yes you harbour plenty of terrorists like Advani, Modi and Bal Thakarey to name just a few retards but i understand that our relations with China give you sleepless nights.
Ultimately every nation looks after its own affairs so there are no real friends in politics but relationships based on convenience!. If China is not our friend then understand that Israel only supports you idiots due to your enemity with us, any given moment they'll drop you like a bad habit too! Actually it's India that is losing land to China where as Pak does not overtly depend on China rather it's a give and take relationship.
Unicorn
Banned
Bro I can attest to that it is very very painful. There is one possibility but not a probability the guy genuinely doesn't know, but including hans in the list is making it quite obvious.
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