There is no room for democracy in IslamMaulana Sufi Mohama

[silencearound]

MINGORA: While addressing a large rally here on Sunday, Chief of the Tehreek Nifaz-e-Shariat, Maulana Sufi Mohammed said that the movement for the implementation of Sharia began in 1994.
The fifteen year struggle of the TNSM for the implementation of Sharia in Malakand is now bearing results, the Chief of the Tehreek Nifaz-e-Shariat said.

He said the democratic system is an un-Islamic one and the judicial system of Pakistan should be according to the Sharia.

Now any appeal against the Qazi courts decisions can be made only through the Darul Qaza, he added. There is no room for democracy in Islam.

In line with these statements, Sufi has demanded the abolition of all judges in Malakand, giving April 23 as a deadline for the establishment of Darul Qaza.

Sufi wants Qazis appointed in all the districts within one month and also said that the government should start giving decisions in criminal and other cases according to the Sharia.

 

[Jury]

MINGORA: While addressing a large rally here on Sunday, Chief of the Tehreek Nifaz-e-Shariat, Maulana Sufi Mohammed said that the movement for the implementation of Sharia began in 1994.
The fifteen year struggle of the TNSM for the implementation of Sharia in Malakand is now bearing results, the Chief of the Tehreek Nifaz-e-Shariat said.

He said the democratic system is an un-Islamic one and the judicial system of Pakistan should be according to the Sharia.

Now any appeal against the Qazi courts decisions can be made only through the Darul Qaza, he added. There is no room for democracy in Islam.

In line with these statements, Sufi has demanded the abolition of all judges in Malakand, giving April 23 as a deadline for the establishment of Darul Qaza.

Sufi wants Qazis appointed in all the districts within one month and also said that the government should start giving decisions in criminal and other cases according to the Sharia.

Chief Justice Iftikhar Chudhry Should take sumitomo action against SUFI MUHAMMAD on saying against the judicial system, which Iftikhar Chudhry represents as a CHIEF JUSTICE OF ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN.

 

[nomiz]

Don't worry Allah will take action against you people who against the Sharia ....... don't say its Taliban's Sharia its Shariat of Muhammad (S.A.W) .....

 

[saqibmkhan]

The religion (Deen) and law (Shariah) are the two components of Islam: out of which Deen is absolute and unchangeable and has to be followed in its entirety but the Shariah can on occasions adjust itself to changing times and circumstances but its application must never dither from the Islamic parameters. Sharia is flexible and not rigid as portrayed by anti-Islamic Western media and also because some silly mullahs think so too. Take for instance punishments: Islam does not only insist on awarding punishment to criminals for various offences but its aim is to cultivate and encourage a sort of atmosphere where no crimes are committed and emphasises on eliminating root causes so that crimes do no take place. There is nothing glamorous in awarding or inflicting punishment to the hard core criminals, murderers, suicide bombers or petty offenders and televising it for the sake of publicity and cheap propaganda. Every care must be taken that Sharia is not misinterpreted or executed to win points but its application must authentic and based on absolute justice according to the tenets of Islam and Hadiz.

In the domain of judiciary, equality of all men and women is law, in which even the head of state is not exempt from his subjects and is answerable to them. Islam envisages religion as not just a part of life but as the whole of it. In fact, aI-Islam or al-din sees itself as life itself and it incorporates what we do, what we make, what we think, what we feel as well as addresses the question of where we come from and where we are go after this life. That is why Islamic religion always uses the term al-din as embracing all facets of human life leaving nothing outside its dominion. In the traditional Islamic perspective there is nothing secular, nothing outside the realm that is not governed by religion ordained by Allah.

The path of Islam is based on the middle path, ummatum wassatum: the Muslim outwardly applies reason, justice, compassion, and all other virtues while inwardly he or she is in abandonment and submission, trusting that the outcome to any situation will be the appropriate one. Therefore, whosoever is in true and constant submission, in utmost awareness both outwardly and inwardly is on the path of pursuing the ultimate knowledge and fulfilling their purpose. That is the heart of Islamic message.

 

[jazbaedil]

I think Sufi sahab is a great man, because he is doing so much, just to establish islamic law, and islam in his part of the world. But I do not think when he said "there is no place of democracy in islam" is a true statement. To me, there is "some amount" of democracy, in islam, if not complete, and when we talk about democracy, we need also to understand this term. Democracy stands for a system of government whereby people of some place are the sole deciding force collectively, to form a government, and to make decisions about their collective life, with the help of their representatives in democratic fora. Islam has a concept of "shura", which is totally in line with the concept of democracy. Also Islam do talk about "bay' at", the concept where individually people, accepts, and agrees to the governance of some specific head of state. But sure, islam is not really all about opposition, horse trading, ruling class, working class, etc. these are evils of current world. We have a better system of governance, we had it for some time, and we saw the best results. That is called, the system of Khilafah. underwhich people of some place have the right to chose, but those who are chosing, have to be "saaib ur raaey", or the people of honor, and dignity. Anyways, the bottom line is, no Sufi saab, Islam is not totally un-democratic, infact it has a better form of democracy, that west is still evolving to acheive.

 

[peace]

Who ever thinks Sufi Mohammad is wrong in saying There is no room for democracy in Islam , can you prove with facts if the "Western Democratic" system is justifiable according to our Shariah? I am not supporting one or the other I just want to see who ever denies it on what grounds do they do so or is it just another foolish effort against NizameAdal

 

[sohaiil]

Too Alll My Dear Fellows...

Islam Actually has actually Demorcatic Vision.... but there is no room for dictatorship in Islam... have you people who says that ISLAM is not Demoratic have read the taking oth ceremoney of Second Islamic Khalifa... Hazrat Umar (Raziallah-o-Hanho) who was elected by the TOP Leaders in Islam.. Could you tell us how can we select our Khalifa if Taliban's Sharia is imposed?... Alhamdullilah im a True Muslim, im Follower of Islam but i think they just want to be the Khalifa of Islamic Republic of Islam.....

just tell me one thing.... Police Deptt was first Built in the Era of Hazrat Umar.... so Its Under the Islamic Vision... but the Taliban who just want to make Pakistan (Northern Agency with no Rule of LAW) so why Taliban attack on These Police Stations where Muslims are Working... and Serving the Nation.. i have seen Too Much Policemens who are True Muslims prays all 5 times a day... but one suicide Bomber Comes and Hits all.. Talib says That Suicide Bomber is Shaheed... People says Police men are Shaheed?

who will Given the Heaven?? ???

 

[abdulhaseeb23]

app sab log sahi keh rahe hoo kie shayad islam mein democracy ki gunjaish hai lekin, mein sab iktilaaf kerne wale bhaiyon se ek question kerna chahta hoon ke kia islam ek sharabi aur zani insan ko huqmuran bane ki ijjazat deta hai aur yeh democracy hai ke jis mein zardari jesa shaks ajj saddar bana bheta hai, aur kafi aese mna's hai jo khule aam drink kerte hai kiya islam ain ko humara numainda bannne ki ijazat deta hai, kia humme democracy chahiye

 

[Jury]

MINGORA: While addressing a large rally here on Sunday, Chief of the Tehreek Nifaz-e-Shariat, Maulana Sufi Mohammed said that the movement for the implementation of Sharia began in 1994.
The fifteen year struggle of the TNSM for the implementation of Sharia in Malakand is now bearing results, the Chief of the Tehreek Nifaz-e-Shariat said.

He said the democratic system is an un-Islamic one and the judicial system of Pakistan should be according to the Sharia.

Now any appeal against the Qazi courts decisions can be made only through the Darul Qaza, he added. There is no room for democracy in Islam.

In line with these statements, Sufi has demanded the abolition of all judges in Malakand, giving April 23 as a deadline for the establishment of Darul Qaza.

Sufi wants Qazis appointed in all the districts within one month and also said that the government should start giving decisions in criminal and other cases according to the Sharia.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY-8bKz9KBE[/video]

 

[Jury]

Don't worry Allah will take action against you people who against the Sharia ....... don't say its Taliban's Sharia its Shariat of Muhammad (S.A.W) .....

?? ??? ?????? ??? ??? ?? ??? ??? ?? ????
(Tu phir hojaye esi baat par ek khud kush hamla)

First of all I want to know, what is the qualification of SUFI MUHAMMAD.

 

[silencearound]

Don't worry Allah will take action against you people who against the Sharia ....... don't say its Taliban's Sharia its Shariat of Muhammad (S.A.W) .....

?? ??? ?????? ??? ??? ?? ??? ??? ?? ????
(Tu phir hojaye esi baat par ek khud kush hamla)

First of all I want to know, what is the qualification of SUFI MUHAMMAD.

Graduate of Madraasah.. run by fanatics spreading hatred in return 2( OR ONE ) time food to poor children .... Imagine....!!!!

 

[silencearound]

Don't worry Allah will take action against you people who against the Sharia ....... don't say its Taliban's Sharia its Shariat of Muhammad (S.A.W) .....

Dont be so ignorant !.. Do you no Haqooq Ibaad has more value infront of Allah than haqooq Ullah...

Allah only helps those to can helpthemselves.. !

 

[peace]

To ensure Haquq Ilbad we need Shariah.

 

[silencearound]

To ensure Haquq Ilbad we need Shariah.

yeah right Mr peace!!....

If the shariah will give haquq ibad like this..
by flogging women infront of every one, destroying schools, making compulsory for women to wear veil and taking out dead bodies from the grave and hanging it on the streets..... we dont need this Shariah...

very good.... what a hippocracy,,,,,,,,

 

[sohaiil]

app sab log sahi keh rahe hoo kie shayad islam mein democracy ki gunjaish hai lekin, mein sab iktilaaf kerne wale bhaiyon se ek question kerna chahta hoon ke kia islam ek sharabi aur zani insan ko huqmuran bane ki ijjazat deta hai aur yeh democracy hai ke jis mein zardari jesa shaks ajj saddar bana bheta hai, aur kafi aese mna's hai jo khule aam drink kerte hai kiya islam ain ko humara numainda bannne ki ijazat deta hai, kia humme democracy chahiye

Bro Abdul Haseeb.... tum nay shayad Qur'an ki wo Aayat nai parhi jiss main Allah Farmatay hain..
MAFHOOM " aur Jese Qo'am kay Aamaal hotay hain main un par vesa hi Hukumran Musalat kar deta hon"

aur wese b aaj kal aik sms bhot chall raha hay aap sab logon nay b parha ho ga...

"kissi molvi nay Zardari ko kaha ke "Janab Qo'am par Zulm mat karain Allah ka Azab aa jai ga..! Fir Zardari Sahib nay jawab diya ke... Hazrat..... Zulm tou Musharaf nay kia tha.... Main tou Allah ka Aazaab Hoon...."

 

[divine]

This email is meant for tuttttoooooosssss ONLY!

Sufi sahab to buzurg aadmi hain .... na chahtay huay bhi izzat kerni paregi filhaal. Meray forum friends jo soch nahi rahay sirf type ker rahay hain un kay paaas offcourse aqal ki shadeeeed kami hai ....... koi mubalgha nahi.

Sharia e Muhammadi kay koi khilaaaaf nahi ...... Sharia e Sufi kay khilaaaf hain, kionkay yeh sharia man made hai (Shayed yeh bhi her cheeez ki tarah made in China ho). Sufi sahab expoit ker rahay hain ...... khud ko leader bananay kay liye. Un kay hisaaab say sirf woh sahi hain baqi sab ghalat !

Agar aap nay yahan tak perh liya hai to ???????? Mein kuch nahi kahoonga meinay to aap ko shuroo mein hi bata diya tha.

 

[divine]

SHARIAT kay AINNNN mutabiq loooot, khasoooot chori jaisay yeh maaaaal e ghaneeemat hai.... I wanna cry over this publicity of Shariyat -e - Muhammadi SAW.

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... aliban--bi

 

[peace]

To ensure Haquq Ilbad we need Shariah.

yeah right Mr peace!!....

If the shariah will give haquq ibad like this..
by flogging women infront of every one, destroying schools, making compulsory for women to wear veil and taking out dead bodies from the grave and hanging it on the streets..... we dont need this Shariah...

very good.... what a hippocracy,,,,,,,,

I said Shariah NOT taliban shariah open your eyes and mind to understand what someone writes. When we say shariah we mean it in true form not from a group which every one condemns.

But no matter what excuses you make you can never deny the fact that huqooq ul ibad are only protected under Shariah!

If you are scared about the nizam-e-adal then it is made in complete accordance with our constitution. If you have any objections to it then your opinion is no different then sufi mohammad.

 

[peace]

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=3256 Please watch the first part of this wonderful post to better understand what Nizam-e-Adal is in practical sense.

Sufi Mohd jo marzi kahay, please understand in reality who is in control of Nizam-e-Adal.

 

[silencearound]

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=3256 Please watch the first part of this wonderful post to better understand what Nizam-e-Adal is in practical sense.

Sufi Mohd jo marzi kahay, please understand in reality who is in control of Nizam-e-Adal.

sufi mohd kaisay jo marzi kahay .... he has to be accountable what he is saying .. he is illeterate jihaadi....

we can never allow any one playing games with our religion and name of Pakistan.....