The Spiritual and the Secular

[Abisafyan]

The Spiritual and the Secular


The soul and the body are the meanings to learn in brief.


The soul is spirt having been defined in the Holy Qur'an as Divine Command (Amr-e-Rabbi). And the bodies having been created from the first Grand Parent Human Couple; the Grand Prophet Adam and his Grand Spouse: Hawa, PBUT.


And when this soul is being send to spend some days as per Divine Schedule in this world it is made viable accordingly by granting the cover of worldly body as human being and so each of us as human being is combination of a soul and a body, one doesn't work without the other, for having been Designed Divinely as such.
Same is the case of all creation for having been created by the Same One Creator; Allah Almighty.
This is the universal truth have never been and could never have been challenged by anyone, rather having been admitted as such by everyone, including the Iblis, the rebellion along with his party.
Being so all the human beings have been set as spiritual as well as worldlier aka secular simultaneously.


Consequently, human beings having been held dependent upon spiritual as well as worldly necessities and this is why they having been commanded to maintain the balance between the two so as to be a true Muslim.


So both kind of Natural Laws, necessary for the soul as well as for the body having been arranged excellently for the Humanity by Allah Almighty.


The laws required for the soul and the laws required for the body of human being; the first kind is set of spiritual laws and the second is set of worldly laws.


What I want to convey was simply to differentiate between the two, an attempt to translate the terms; spiritual and secular.
The opposite of Islamic Law is unIslamic law and so they are the terms, describe as Laws having been set by Creator; Allah Almighty and the laws set by the defying creation aka atheists respectively.

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[Altaf Lutfi]

Thanks for explanation but it is not correct to maintain that a person can be spiritual as well as secular at the same time. Religion is the prime source of spirituality and other sub sources can be adopted within the frame work of that religion only. Leaving the prime faith aside any source of wisdom in conflict with prime faith will not be valid.

What world dictionaries talk about the word "secular", interesting to see below.


-Of or relating to the doctrine that rejects religion and religious considerations
-Not concerned with or devoted to religion
-Of or relating to clergy not bound by monastic vows

That means simply that a secular person will be free of a religion, thus unable to fill his spiritual basket. A man can either be spiritual or secular. Right ??

 

[hans]

SOme one seem very confused with the word Secular and Atheist.

Secular means being first humanist.

Respecting other sect and religion do not constitute a person to be Atheist.

Being Secular means ... that those been represent in a society poorly or marginalized, do not suffer at the hands of Majority.
Even if the Majority think that there religion is perfect 110%, and all other are kafir or Heretic.

Want proof... go through Islamic History, where ever you find progress, invention, education, culture and society as a whole progress... you will find the leaders were Secular.

Secular do not mean a person to be Heretic.

Now compare ISIS or TTP with any progressive Islamic kingdom from the past.

 

[ZenoInTheZoo]

@Thread poster

Apparently, nothing wrong with the thesis you tried to build, except perhaps u have assumed or seem to be emphasizing the separation and fixity of soul and body.

What about the possibility and desirability of both, soul and body, acting in unison harmoniously? Won't that be a higher level of sprituality? Won't u like to go there, attain and experience it?

 

[Sadia Hashmi]

@ thread starter

spirituality is not only for muslims we can find it in every religion.

and y do u pick the word secular....... ???? there are other forms of worldly laws as well.

 

[Abisafyan]

[1250–1300; Middle English seculer (< Old French) < Late Latin saeculāris worldly, temporal

 

[Abisafyan]

The opposite of Islamic Law is unIslamic law and so they are the terms, describe as Laws having been set by Creator; Allah Almighty and the laws set by the defying creation aka atheists respectively.

 

[Abisafyan]

Secular is misconstrued as ladiniat; atheism which is misnomer...

 

[Abisafyan]

Human being is combination of soul (spirit) n body (corporal), means human being is specially designed for this planet, partly is spirit and partly is temporal...

 

[Sedqal]

SOme one seem very confused with the word Secular and Atheist.

Secular means being first humanist.

Respecting other sect and religion do not constitute a person to be Atheist.

Being Secular means ... that those been represent in a society poorly or marginalized, do not suffer at the hands of Majority.
Even if the Majority think that there religion is perfect 110%, and all other are kafir or Heretic.

Want proof... go through Islamic History, where ever you find progress, invention, education, culture and society as a whole progress... you will find the leaders were Secular.

Secular do not mean a person to be Heretic.

Now compare ISIS or TTP with any progressive Islamic kingdom from the past.

You are marketing 'secular' here not defining it. Secular simply means lacking any religious affiliation it has nothing to do with being a humanist.

 

[Abisafyan]

Spiritual Law; praying, fasting etc
Secular Laws: pertaining to worldly affairs; sale, gift, preemption etc

 

[Abisafyan]

I do not want to sell the word; secular, rather I am submitting exact meaning which is anything worldly as opposed to spiritual

 

[Abisafyan]

I am just conveying the set of two; religious affairs and worldly affairs.
laws pertaining to religious affairs are spiritual laws and laws having been prescribed for worldly affairs are set of worldly laws or secular laws.
Laws having been provided by Creator; Allah Almighty are Divine Laws or Islamic Laws and Laws woven by creation are unislamic laws.

 

[hans]

uncle .....

for your information

secularism noun \ˈse-kyə-lə-ˌri-zəm\
: the belief that religion should not play a role in government, education, or other public parts of society

Not specifically relating to religion or to a religious body....

Now tell me .... where does it say any thing about Atheism????

Mullah in Pakistan like Dr Israr .. are the ones to be blamed for all the hate ... that we see around now.

Pakistan was created for Muslim... not Islam.... see a Pakistani flag.. do you see the white portion... that clearly tell you how much Secular we have to be.

You want Pakistan to be strong... ?????

here is my two bits...

make sure... hindu religious ritual are transmitted on PTV, every morning. Give full rights to all minority... make sure the one who kills them get skinned alive.

make justice for all... make it cheap.

Now are these not basic mandate in Islam.

You are marketing 'secular' here not defining it. Secular simply means lacking any religious affiliation it has nothing to do with being a humanist.

 

[Abisafyan]

Son, read my pieces first then try to understand thereafter alone think about shitting...

 

[Abisafyan]

Hansraj, Your mind is not looking healthy, so no chance of healthy discussion...