The only way to be one ummah

[onlykami]

Surah Al Baqarah

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[TD="class: QuranData, bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]And if they believe in the like of that which ye believe, then are they rightly guided. But if they turn away, then are they in schism, and Allah will suffice thee (for defence) against them. He is the Hearer, the Knower.[/TD]
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Eman (Aqeedah) agar hum Muhammad SAWW jaisa bana lain tu Inshallah hum aek ho jaingay warna hum firqon main hi batay rahain gay.

 

[Faiza]

جزاك اللهُ

 

[Raaz]

R all Mullas one nation ???????

 

[Babatank]

People who talk like this never understood the real ISLAM otherwise, they should not have experienced the worst humiliation. @Raaz, Am I right Raaz Bhai? Jzk. :)

 

[such bolo]

following Quran and Sunnah is the only way to be on the right path
and this principle is not only for common people but for Ulema (scholars) too

so, instead of focusing on ulema (scholars) we must focus on the way to right path
whoever would be following that way would automatically become our companion
whether righteous Ulema or Awaam

InshaAllah​

 

[Raaz]

لگتا ہے آج کل لوگوں نے علما دودھ دینے کے لے رکھے ہوے ہیں

ہر کوئی اپنے آپ کو عالم سمجھ رہا ہے​

 

[Mughal1]

Aisa mumkin hi nahin hai keh log bebunyaad batoon par jama ho jayen. isi liye insaniyat ki kheriyat isi baat main hai ke log aik achhe maqsad par ikathe hun aur ikatha hone ki shraait bi achhi hun.

Quran insaaniyat ko aik hi maqsad deta hai duniya main amno salaamti peda karne ka. is ke liye quran kuchh sharaait bi deta hai jin ke teht amno salaamti mumkin hai.

is ke siwaa insaniyat ke paas koi na maqsad ho sakta hai jis par sab log ikathe ho saken na aisi sharaait jo insaniyat ko qable qabool hun.

mullah ki baat us waqt tak bekaar hai jab tak mullah mullaiyato mazhab ko chhor kar aalime deen nahin ban jaata. jab aisa ho jaaye ga. islam bahot jald duniya main phel jaaye ga yaani duniya main amno slaamti aa jaaye gi.

aik dor main mullah baadshahat ke dalaal the phir baashahat in ke ghar ki londi ban gayee aur phir aaya sarmaayadariyat ka dor aur siasatdaan aur malvante sarmayadarun ke dalaal ban gayee aur yun khudaa ke naam par insaniyat ka karobaar aik naye tareeqe se karne lag gaye.

jab tak logoon ko hosh nahin aaye ga isi tarah in logoon ke haathun zaleel khwaar hote rehen ge. albata jab deen ke ulema peda ho jaayen ge aur logoon ko deen ki taleem den ge phir aik nayaa dor aaye ga jis ko khudayee nizaam ka dor kaha jaaye ga. us dor main deen sirf aur sirf Allah hi ka ho ga kyunkeh us dor main har taraf amno salaamti ho gi. is liye ke sab log apni apni zimmadariyan poori karen ge jis se har haqdaar ko apna pana haq mile ga.

is baat ki tafseel doosre thread main batayee jaa chuki hai.

 

[onlykami]

Aqeedah ki baat aapp k samnay bebunyad baat hai? Jis aqeedah ko samjhanay kalya Allah k Nabi SAWW nay pathar khai laho lahan huay apnay khandan aur tamam Makkah say alag hona para usay aap bebunyad keh rahay hain ? agar upar di gai ayah ko aapnay nahi parha tu zaroor parhain dobara say us main Allah nay hamaray itttehad ka sirf aek hi hal bataya hai k apna aqeedah (iman) Muhammad SAWW aur sahaba jaisa kar lain sab aek ho jaingay warna isi tarhan firqoun main batay rahain gay.

Waisay kisi nay sahi kaha hai k jis ki jaisi zahnyat hoti hai usay waisa hi nazar ata hai, aur aapko bhi bus wohi mulla nazar ata hai jo badshahat ka dallal hota hai wo nahi (Imam Malik RA) jo badshahon k samnay khara ho jata hai aur aai bhi kaisay aap tu daikhna hi nahi chahtay

Aisa mumkin hi nahin hai keh log bebunyaad batoon par jama ho jayen. isi liye insaniyat ki kheriyat isi baat main hai ke log aik achhe maqsad par ikathe hun aur ikatha hone ki shraait bi achhi hun.

Quran insaaniyat ko aik hi maqsad deta hai duniya main amno salaamti peda karne ka. is ke liye quran kuchh sharaait bi deta hai jin ke teht amno salaamti mumkin hai.

is ke siwaa insaniyat ke paas koi na maqsad ho sakta hai jis par sab log ikathe ho saken na aisi sharaait jo insaniyat ko qable qabool hun.

mullah ki baat us waqt tak bekaar hai jab tak mullah mullaiyato mazhab ko chhor kar aalime deen nahin ban jaata. jab aisa ho jaaye ga. islam bahot jald duniya main phel jaaye ga yaani duniya main amno slaamti aa jaaye gi.

aik dor main mullah baadshahat ke dalaal the phir baashahat in ke ghar ki londi ban gayee aur phir aaya sarmaayadariyat ka dor aur siasatdaan aur malvante sarmayadarun ke dalaal ban gayee aur yun khudaa ke naam par insaniyat ka karobaar aik naye tareeqe se karne lag gaye.

jab tak logoon ko hosh nahin aaye ga isi tarah in logoon ke haathun zaleel khwaar hote rehen ge. albata jab deen ke ulema peda ho jaayen ge aur logoon ko deen ki taleem den ge phir aik nayaa dor aaye ga jis ko khudayee nizaam ka dor kaha jaaye ga. us dor main deen sirf aur sirf Allah hi ka ho ga kyunkeh us dor main har taraf amno salaamti ho gi. is liye ke sab log apni apni zimmadariyan poori karen ge jis se har haqdaar ko apna pana haq mile ga.

is baat ki tafseel doosre thread main batayee jaa chuki hai.

 

[onlykami]

Subject main alim k baray main baat nahi ki gai baat ki gai hai "ummat ka ittehad, per kaisay?" aur wo upar di gai ayah say samjhaya gaya hai k kaisay, so don't go off the topic and come to the point, if he was right then like it and if not share your reasons.

لگتا ہے آج کل لوگوں نے علما دودھ دینے کے لے رکھے ہوے ہیں

ہر کوئی اپنے آپ کو عالم سمجھ رہا ہے​

 

[Raaz]

Subject main alim k baray main baat nahi ki gai baat ki gai hai "ummat ka ittehad, per kaisay?" aur wo upar di gai ayah say samjhaya gaya hai k kaisay, so don't go off the topic and come to the point, if he was right then like it and if not share your reasons.

u think Ulama dont belong to ummat?

do they belong to some dairy farm ?

Ulam of todays has made the Umaat divided.... not me or u....


u r also thinking u r Alim and teaching , where as u can understand any thing....

 

[onlykami]

Agreed from you 100% per jo ghalatyan ulama nay ki hain un say bahir bhi hum kabhi niklain gay ya bus isi per baithay rahain gay ? aur is lecture main isi baat per bahas ki gai hai k sirf aek point hai aur wo hai aqeedah agar aqeedah quran o sunnah k mutabiq hum bana lain tu hi chance hai k hum islam ko revive karwa sakaingay warna "islami ittehad council" or bla bla say kabhi kch nahi honay wala

Yeh jo firqay banay hain in ka main reason hai hi yeh k hum infiradi taur per deen ko samajhna chor dya aur is ka theka molvyon ko de dya ab wo jahan lay kar gai hum chaltay chalay gai aur aaj hum bhugat rahay hain sab kch

u think Ulama dont belong to ummat?

do they belong to some dairy farm ?

Ulam of todays has made the Umaat divided.... not me or u....


u r also thinking u r Alim and teaching , where as u can understand any thing....

 

[Mughal1]

Aqeedah ki baat aapp k samnay bebunyad baat hai? Jis aqeedah ko samjhanay kalya Allah k Nabi SAWW nay pathar khai laho lahan huay apnay khandan aur tamam Makkah say alag hona para usay aap bebunyad keh rahay hain ? agar upar di gai ayah ko aapnay nahi parha tu zaroor parhain dobara say us main Allah nay hamaray itttehad ka sirf aek hi hal bataya hai k apna aqeedah (iman) Muhammad SAWW aur sahaba jaisa kar lain sab aek ho jaingay warna isi tarhan firqoun main batay rahain gay.

Waisay kisi nay sahi kaha hai k jis ki jaisi zahnyat hoti hai usay waisa hi nazar ata hai, aur aapko bhi bus wohi mulla nazar ata hai jo badshahat ka dallal hota hai wo nahi (Imam Malik RA) jo badshahon k samnay khara ho jata hai aur aai bhi kaisay aap tu daikhna hi nahi chahtay

pyare bhai onlykami sb, islam kisi bebunyaad aqeede ka naam nahin hai aur na hi befaaida amaal ka naam hai jaisa mullah log ham logoon ko aaj tak bataate rehe hen aur aaj ham ko is qadar zillat main daal diya hai.

Islam ki bunyaad aqalo feham aur wahiye khudaa wandi hai. mullah ke banaaye huwe aqeede nahin. is liye aap yeh samjhne ki koshish karen deen aur mazhab main farq kia hota hai.

deen duniya main rehne ke liye dastoor aur qanoon ko kehte hen mazhabi aqaaid ko nahin. agra islam mazhab hota to deen na hota. islam ke deen hone ke dalaail se quran ata pada hai. Is ke mazhab hone ka koi sabooth quran main nahin hai. Mullahs ne islam ko mazhab ke bator pesh kiya hai aur is ka saboot yeh hai sab zor mullah ne islam ko mazhab banaane main lagaa diya hai. yahee waja hai ummat aaj jin masaail se do chaar hai un ko chhor kar mullah ne dadhi aur pagdi ki behen chhed di hen.

batao kia in se logoon ko saans lene ke liye saaf hawa mil sakti hai? kia in se logoon ko peene ke liye saaf paani mil sakta hai? kis in se logoon ko khaane ko sehtmand khaana mil sakta hai? kia log in bunyadi zaroortun ko poora kiye bagher zinda reh sakte hen?

Agar aisa nahin hai to islam yahee hai keh pehle logoon ki laazmi zaroorten poori karne ka bandobast kiya jaaye. isi ke liye sab logoon ko mil kar kaam karne ki zaroorat hai aur isi liye quran dastoor hai ta keh logoon ko is kaam ke liye munazzam kia jaaye kis zaabte ke teht aur kisi qanoon ke teht kyunkeh tanzeem baghair saabte ke mumkin hi nahin.

doosrun ko ahmaq jaanane ke bajaaye mere pyare bhai baatun par dihaan den taa keh aap ko maaloom ho sake main baat kia kar raha hun aur mere nazdeeq mullah log is ummat ke hi nahin balkeh insaaniyat ke mujrim kyun hen.

sab fasaad firqa wariyat se peda hota hai aur firqe mazhab main hote hen aur siasat main bhi aur yeh kaam siasatdaan, mullah aur sarmayadar mil kar karte hen apni ajaara dari ki khaatir.

agar aisa na hota to duniya amno salaamti ki bunyaadun par abaad hoti jaise khud quran main mojood hai. baz logoon ne apni sadaari ki khaatir logoon ko aapas main ladaana zaroori jaana aut yun insaniyat ko tabaho barbaad kar diya.

Quran samjhne ke liye hai aur us ko samjhne ki zaroorat sirf aur sirf is liye hai keh is main insaaniyat ke masaail ka hal hai duniya main achhe tareeqe se rehne ke liye.

yeh jitne bhi molvi hen kisi bhi firqe ke in main koi aik hi bataa do jis ko aisi baaten maloom hun aur us ne awaam ko batayee bhi hun. is forum main hazarun audio video log pesh karte hen kitne hen jin se kisi ne deen seekha ho? sab mullah mazhab zada hen aur yahee phelane ki koshish main hen kyunkeh isi se in ki ajaara dari qaaim hoti hai.

har molvi apne adeeqe ka paband mile ga kyunkeh us ko yeh himmat hi nahin ke woh apne aqeede ke bahir ho kar baat kare. sab aik doosre se dar rehe hen. koi ikka dukka shakhs apne tor par firqa wariyar se baala ho kar sochta hai. aur isi waja se us par sab molvi janwarun ki tarah toot padte hen kyunkeh agar kisi aise admi ki baat chal gayee to mullah ke liye siwaaye ummat se maafi maangne ya os ke joote khaane ke koi chaara hi nahin ho ga.

is ki misaalen majood hen, sir syed ke baare main mullah ne kia likha aur kaha, isi tarah har aise shakhs ke khilaaf mullah ne aisa hi qadam uthaaya aur zaleelo khawaar hue par kufaar ki tarah apne rawish nahin chhori. iqbal ke khilaaf khade ho kar mullah ko munh ki khaani padi magar kia mullah baaz aaye?

is liye jab tak yeh log is ummat ko apne ghulam bnaaye rakhne ka karobaar nahin chhodte in ko ummat ka kaam hai zaleel karne apni zillat ka badla lene ke liye.

Ummat ko mullah kabhi bhi motahid nahin hjone den ge na khud kar sakte hen kyunkeh in ki zindagi ka maqsad apni ajaara dari qaaim karna hai aur quran insaan par insaan ki ajaara dari se mana karta hai.

in baatun ko bahot hi araam se sochne ki zaroorat. islam ko mullah ne islam ke liye nahin phelaaya wana islam kisi zamaane se duniya main aik deen ki hesiyat se raaij hota aur chala aata. kyunkeh mullah islam ko mazhab banaa kar apne maqaasid ke liye phelaaya isi liye islam duniya main sirf aur sirf aik mazhab ki hesiyat se jaana jaata hai.

phir is par jo tanqeed gher muslimum ki taraf se hoti rehee hai aur ho rehee hai isl ka jawaab mullah hajil baap daade bhi na de sake na de saken ge.

har jaga mullah ko munh ki khaani padi hai isi liye keh in logoon ne ummat ko ummat rehne hi nahin diye. aap khud dekho mullah ka awaam main ghareeb logoon se kaisa bartao hai aur ameer logoon se kaisa.

ameer shakhs ko bade adab se bulaate hen aur ghareen shakhs ko aap ko maloom hi ho ga. is se saaf oata chalta hai in ko iqtdaar ki hawas hai aur kis liye hai. ta keh logoon par apna rohb aur dabdaba zahir karen jaise karte rehe hen.

mullah aur aalme deen ki pehchaan sirf aur sirf yeh hai ke aik shakhs islam ko deen ki hesiyat se roshnaas karwaata hai jab keh doosra mazhab ki hesiyat se.

yeh jamood ummat main is dor main sab se pehle sir syed ne toda. yeh bataa kar keh quran ko rationally samhjo. is liye kaha tha kyu8nkeh is main duniya main rehene ke liye nizaam aur qawaaneen banaane ke tareeqe diye gaye the. is baat ki tashree iqbal ne ki aur bahot hi saaf lafzun main. iis liye to manshoor, dastoor aur qanoon ki baat chhiri aur isi liye iqbal ne mulak ki zaroorat ka izhaar kiya jis main islam ko batore deen naafiz kiya jaaye batore namoona. iis baat ko sasmajh kar jinnah ne musalmanu ke liye alag khittae zameen haasil karne ki jido johd ki. isi baat ke liye parwez ne in ka sab se bad chad kar saath diya.

ajeeb baat hai jab khittae zameen haasil ho gayaa to sab os maqsad hi ko bhool gaya jis ke liye musalmanu ne mil kar itni qurbaniyan di thin. yeh maqsad kis ne bhulaa diya khitte main basne wali ummat ko?

yah mullah hi ki kar kardagi thi siasatdaanu ke saath mil kar in logoon ne ummat ko sarmayadarun ke haathun bech diya. ummat ka hashar bhi yahee hona chahiye tha kyunkeh is ne khud ko islam samjhne ke liye tyaaar hi kab kiya? mulak sirf aur sirf aik aadh shakhiyat ke bal boote par nahin chalte balkeh poori qowm ko aik simt chalna padta hai jis simt os ki taraqi aur khushhaali mumkin ho sake magar ham logoon ne sab kuchh siasatdaanu, mullah aur sarmayadarun par chhor diya aur aj jo haal ham logoon ka ho raha hai osi ka nateeja hai.

aaj siasatdaan kehte hen ham ne mulak ka yeh hashar nahin kiya, mullah bhi yahee kehte hen, samayadar bhi aur awaam bhi. yeh sab khudbakhud to nahin ho gayaa?

isi liye ham sab ke liye sochne ka maqaam hai ke ham sab kis bunyaaq par mil sakte hen aur kis par nahin.

meri nazar main mullah ki batayee hui bunyaaden khokhli hen islam woh hai hi nahin jo aaj tak ham ko mullah bataate rehe warna hamaara yeh hashar na hota jo ho raha hai.

siasatdaanu ke paas bhi is ka koi hal nahin hai kyunkeh yeh bhi mullah hi ki tarah apni ajaaradari ki fikar main hen. aur sarmayadar to hamesha hi insaniyat ke dushman rehe hen kyunkeh inko to apne manaafe ki fikar hoti hai jo koi un ke munaafe ka waada kare ga us par apna maal lgaa den ge.

aaj ka masaail ka hal sirf aur sirf ummat ke ithaad main hai aur woh ithaad sirf aur sirf quran muhayaa kar sakta hai jo ham ko us islam ki taraf bulaata hai jo mullah ke islam se mukhtalif hai. yani quran islam ko deen bataata is main islam ke liye mazhab ka lafz hi nahin hai. ajeeb baat hai saari duniya mazhab parast hai aut quran is mazhab parasti se insaaniyat ko nikaalne ko kehta hai.

khudaa ham ko quran, hadis aur fiqh ke maqaam ki smajh aata farmaye ta keh ham log gumrahee se mikal saken aur rahe rast par aa jayen.

 

[Mughal1]

Agreed from you 100% per jo ghalatyan ulama nay ki hain un say bahir bhi hum kabhi niklain gay ya bus isi per baithay rahain gay ? aur is lecture main isi baat per bahas ki gai hai k sirf aek point hai aur wo hai aqeedah agar aqeedah quran o sunnah k mutabiq hum bana lain tu hi chance hai k hum islam ko revive karwa sakaingay warna "islami ittehad council" or bla bla say kabhi kch nahi honay wala

Yeh jo firqay banay hain in ka main reason hai hi yeh k hum infiradi taur per deen ko samajhna chor dya aur is ka theka molvyon ko de dya ab wo jahan lay kar gai hum chaltay chalay gai aur aaj hum bhugat rahay hain sab kch

azeezam only kami sb, yahee to main keh raha hun ham ko aqeedun ki behs se nikal kar quran, hadis aur fiqh ko samjhne ki koshish karni chahiye. jab tak ham aqal, quran, hadis, fiqh ke maqaam ka bamaqsad tayun nahin karte ham un main di gayee maloomaat se faaida nahin uthaa sakte.

ham ko sir syed, iqbal aur parwez jaise log peda karne ki zaroorat hai ta keh islam par jo kaam in logoon ne kiya us ko aur aage laaya jaa sake.

 

[onlykami]

معاف کر دو بھائی اقبال کو پرویز سے تو نہ ملاؤ خدا کا کچھ تو خوف کرو

azeezam only kami sb, yahee to main keh raha hun ham ko aqeedun ki behs se nikal kar quran, hadis aur fiqh ko samjhne ki koshish karni chahiye. jab tak ham aqal, quran, hadis, fiqh ke maqaam ka bamaqsad tayun nahin karte ham un main di gayee maloomaat se faaida nahin uthaa sakte.

ham ko sir syed, iqbal aur parwez jaise log peda karne ki zaroorat hai ta keh islam par jo kaam in logoon ne kiya us ko aur aage laaya jaa sake.