The Jews of Isphan, Iran.

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zeshaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What about stargate in karachi,It is with davidstar,
Any explanation?

Saray yehoodi bayimaan too naheen hotay,Konsaa musalman aisa hay jiss nayAMREEKA main kisee yehoodi kay paas kaam naheen kia?
 
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jaanmark

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Country has all types of citizens and in islam they have to treated equel and respectfully and Iran Presedent do his duty honournlly
 

Ali raza babar

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

اس طرح کے تھریڈز سے ، مذہبی جنونیوں کی ذہنی حالت سمجھنے میں بڑی مدد ملتی ہے ، ایک تھریڈ میں ، امریکی فوجی خواتین کے سر پر سکارف دیکھ کر ، ایک دین دار ، سبحان الله سبحان الله ، کر رہے تھے ، اور اس تصویر کو دکھا کر ، کولا بھائی ، احمدی نجات کے ساتھ یہودیوں کو دیکھ کر ، استغفر الله استغفر الله ، کر رہے ہیں ،

مذھب پرستوں کا "مینو پاز" پتہ نہیں کب ختم ہوگا ، جو ہر چیز سے مایوسی ، بیزاری ہی بیزاری ہے

Kabhi kharam nahi ho ga bhai ...

Khirad ney keh bhi dia La Ilah To kia hasil .
Dil o Nigah Musalman Nahi to kuch bhi nahi
 

LivePakistan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Jews are minority in Iran. What's wrong if Iranian president participated in their function? Don't our leaders go to minority gatherings? Be open-minded and don't think like kids. There are many important things in life to comment.
 
DONOWA

You inferred wrongly from the ayah:

  1. First, Allah has stated that kuffar are auliya (Friends, helper) of each other.
  2. This verse is more relevant today as all the kuffar of this world including Jews and Christians have come together and joined together to fight and harm Muslims, thus friendship with Jews is a sign of Nifaq.
  3. The relationship of Irani group and Jews go way back in time

Friend, the message (Mahfoom) of the ayah from surah Ma'ida is that do not take Jews and Christians as your friends and allies. The jews and the Christians will not rest contented until the get you to follow them in their way of life, their religion. But allah is not speaking about all jews and all christians. Than who are those Christians and those jews? Yes, Do not take those jews and such christians whom themselves are friends and allies with each other. Friendship with such an allegiance is prohibited. May allah forgive me for the unfairness with the translation.
 

mrcritic

Minister (2k+ posts)
DONOWA

You inferred wrongly from the ayah:

  1. First, Allah has stated that kuffar are auliya (Friends, helper) of each other.
  2. This verse is more relevant today as all the kuffar of this world including Jews and Christians have come together and joined together to fight and harm Muslims, thus friendship with Jews is a sign of Nifaq.
  3. The relationship of Irani group and Jews go way back in time

So as per your understanding, every jew and every christian should be killed/not be friends with?

Allah is refering to ZIONISTS not ALL JEWS and ALL CHRISTIANS! It is meant for the Judo-Christian Alliance i.e Zionism. Have a clear head and dont spread pure hatred.

Islam is a religion of peace.
 

BuTurabi

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
DONOWA

You inferred wrongly from the ayah:

  1. First, Allah has stated that kuffar are auliya (Friends, helper) of each other.
  2. This verse is more relevant today as all the kuffar of this world including Jews and Christians have come together and joined together to fight and harm Muslims, thus [HI]friendship with Jews is a sign of Nifaq.[/HI]
  3. The relationship of Irani group and Jews go way back in time

مولوی صاحب! اگر یہود و نصاریٰ (اہلِ کِتاب) کیساتھ دوستی نہیں ہو سکتی تو شادی کیسے ہو سکتی ہے؟؟
 
B.T

It is a Quranic verdict that Muslims can't befriend Jews and Christians and help them against Muslims.

Secondly, Allah says in Quran that it is not befitting for a Muslim to argue and debate when a clear instruction is given by Allah and His Messenger pbuh.
 
Mr. Critic

Blind criticism makes no sense, so Mr. Critic you can critic but with some logic. Don't misquote me, I said Muslims do not take Jews and Christians as friends which is a command of Quran but I did NOT state that we kill them all.

Please read Quran, Allah Taa'ala has clearly warned us about Jews and their hatred and also told us that, "what they have in their hearts is much worse then what appears from their mouth".



So as per your understanding, every jew and every christian should be killed/not be friends with?

Allah is refering to ZIONISTS not ALL JEWS and ALL CHRISTIANS! It is meant for the Judo-Christian Alliance i.e Zionism. Have a clear head and dont spread pure hatred.

Islam is a religion of peace.
 

iceburg

Banned
B.T

It is a Quranic verdict that Muslims can't befriend Jews and Christians and help them against Muslims.

Secondly, Allah says in Quran that it is not befitting for a Muslim to argue and debate when a clear instruction is given by Allah and His Messenger pbuh.

This instruction is not the only one or final. Quran is balanced. (60:7-9)

[FONT=PDMS_IslamicFont]عجب نہیں کہ خدا تم میں اور ان لوگوں میں جن سے تم دشمنی رکھتے ہو دوستی پیدا کردے۔ اور خدا قادر ہے اور خدا بخشنے والا مہربان ہے (۷)[/FONT][FONT=PDMS_IslamicFont]جن لوگوں نے تم سے دین کے بارے میں جنگ نہیں کی اور نہ تم کو تمہارے گھروں سے نکالا ان کے ساتھ بھلائی اور انصاف کا سلوک کرنے سے خدا تم کو منع نہیں کرتا۔ خدا تو انصاف کرنے والوں کو دوست رکھتا ہے (۸) [/FONT][FONT=PDMS_IslamicFont]خدا ان ہی لوگوں کے ساتھ تم کو دوستی کرنے سے منع کرتا ہے جنہوں نے تم سے دین کے بارے میں لڑائی کی اور تم کو تمہارے گھروں سے نکالا اور تمہارے نکالنے میں اوروں کی مدد کی۔ تو جو لوگ ایسوں سے دوستی کریں گے وہی ظالم ہیں (۹)[/FONT]
 

zshan1

MPA (400+ posts)
Agar humaaray pyaaray Nabi (PBUH) ek yahudi aurat ka ghur saaf kur suktay hain jo roz un pay gundagi phhainkti thhi aur confirm atni muslim thhi. to ek PM yahudi say haath kyun nahi mila sukta????
 

muntazir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The Irani group and Jews have a history dating back to the martyrdom of Third Caliph Uthman ibn Affan (Radhiallaho anho) but a lot of people would go crazy if I explain this relationship and its history

lagta hai polka saab aapko pata hii naheen key kinhon ney hazrat usman ra ka gheraoo kia thaa aur koun koun un key qatal main shamil they iss ley zara sooch ker post keren shukria.
 
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gotti

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[MENTION=34224]Pakola Khi[/MENTION]

aapnay Iran kay khilaaf baat kernay ka "kufr" aur na qaabil e bardaasht gunaah kaisay ker liya?

kuch tauba kerain, Islam dushman, Allah dushman aur Jannat dushman kaisay ho gaye?

kiya aapko maloom nahi kay Iran dunya bhar kay musalmaan (10% say bhi kam) aur Islam ka gehwara hai

aap firqawariyat ko kyun farogh day rahay hain (Iran main Sunni Shia nahi chalta. wahan Sunni kuch hota hi nahi, woh to wahaabi, nasibi, kaafir, khariji hain na)

aisay mat kerain, Iran main hi humain zinda kiya jayega aur wahan hi jannat ul firdous qaaim ki jayegi, shayad aapkay ilm main nahi kay qayamat ka wahan kuch asar nahi hoga

aap yaqeenan murtad aur jahannumi ho gaye kyunkay aapnay iran kay khilaaf sochnay ki bhi koshish ker li
 
iBurg

Every instruction in Quran is final as Muslims believe that the Quran we have is complete and without errors.

Now coming to the verse you have quoted in defence of Irani regime and their friendship with Jews. Surah Al Mumtahinah starts with prohibition of intimate relations and friendship with Muslims. O you who believe, do not take My enemies and your enemies for friends, expressing love with them, while they have rejected the Truth that has come to you [60:1] This message is also clearly stated in the earlier verse I stated (5:51)

Now coming to the verse you have presented:

  1. This verse is telling us that Allah will grant Hidayat to some of the kuffar and then we can have intimate relations with them. Pls read the earlier verses and Shan e Nazul.
  2. The verse is about people who have not fought or harmed us in any way. Jews today and yesterday have always been working against Muslims.
  3. Every Jew supports Israel even if he denies it openly to gain rapport within Muslim or Munafiq ranks
  4. Supporting Israel is an act of war and aggression against the whole Ummah
  5. Finally people who kiss, hug and be intimate with enemies of Allah are Zalim and transgressors as per the verse
Pls open your eyes and you will realise that Iran is using its goons to destabilize the Arab World in particular and some countries of Muslims in general. These Irani puppets like Asad of Syria, current Govt of Iraq to rouge armies of Hizbollah and Muqtada Al Sadr are all working for the same cause

This instruction is not the only one or final. Quran is balanced. (60:7-9)

[FONT=PDMS_IslamicFont]عجب نہیں کہ خدا تم میں اور ان لوگوں میں جن سے تم دشمنی رکھتے ہو دوستی پیدا کردے۔ اور خدا قادر ہے اور خدا بخشنے والا مہربان ہے (۷)[/FONT][FONT=PDMS_IslamicFont]جن لوگوں نے تم سے دین کے بارے میں جنگ نہیں کی اور نہ تم کو تمہارے گھروں سے نکالا ان کے ساتھ بھلائی اور انصاف کا سلوک کرنے سے خدا تم کو منع نہیں کرتا۔ خدا تو انصاف کرنے والوں کو دوست رکھتا ہے (۸) [/FONT][FONT=PDMS_IslamicFont]خدا ان ہی لوگوں کے ساتھ تم کو دوستی کرنے سے منع کرتا ہے جنہوں نے تم سے دین کے بارے میں لڑائی کی اور تم کو تمہارے گھروں سے نکالا اور تمہارے نکالنے میں اوروں کی مدد کی۔ تو جو لوگ ایسوں سے دوستی کریں گے وہی ظالم ہیں (۹)[/FONT]
 

iceburg

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iBurg

Every instruction in Quran is final as Muslims believe that the Quran we have is complete and without errors.

Now coming to the verse you have quoted in defence of Irani regime and their friendship with Jews. Surah Al Mumtahinah starts with prohibition of intimate relations and friendship with Muslims. O you who believe, do not take My enemies and your enemies for friends, expressing love with them, while they have rejected the Truth that has come to you [60:1] This message is also clearly stated in the earlier verse I stated (5:51)

Now coming to the verse you have presented:

  1. This verse is telling us that Allah will grant Hidayat to some of the kuffar and then we can have intimate relations with them. Pls read the earlier verses and Shan e Nazul.
  2. The verse is about people who have not fought or harmed us in any way. Jews today and yesterday have always been working against Muslims.
  3. Every Jew supports Israel even if he denies it openly to gain rapport within Muslim or Munafiq ranks
  4. Supporting Israel is an act of war and aggression against the whole Ummah
  5. Finally people who kiss, hug and be intimate with enemies of Allah are Zalim and transgressors as per the verse
Pls open your eyes and you will realise that Iran is using its goons to destabilize the Arab World in particular and some countries of Muslims in general. These Irani puppets like Asad of Syria, current Govt of Iraq to rouge armies of Hizbollah and Muqtada Al Sadr are all working for the same cause

I am not going to give you any oppertunity to complicate the things. Instruction is complete only when 60:7-10 are also considered. I am copying it again here ... not for you ... but for the justice minded ppl to not come under your ill intended trap...!!!

[FONT=PDMS_IslamicFont]عجب نہیں کہ خدا تم میں اور ان لوگوں میں جن سے تم دشمنی رکھتے ہو دوستی پیدا کردے۔ اور خدا قادر ہے اور خدا بخشنے والا مہربان ہے (۷)[/FONT][FONT=PDMS_IslamicFont]جن لوگوں نے تم سے دین کے بارے میں جنگ نہیں کی اور نہ تم کو تمہارے گھروں سے نکالا ان کے ساتھ بھلائی اور انصاف کا سلوک کرنے سے خدا تم کو منع نہیں کرتا۔ خدا تو انصاف کرنے والوں کو دوست رکھتا ہے (۸) [/FONT][FONT=PDMS_IslamicFont]خدا ان ہی لوگوں کے ساتھ تم کو دوستی کرنے سے منع کرتا ہے جنہوں نے تم سے دین کے بارے میں لڑائی کی اور تم کو تمہارے گھروں سے نکالا اور تمہارے نکالنے میں اوروں کی مدد کی۔ تو جو لوگ ایسوں سے دوستی کریں گے وہی ظالم ہیں (۹)[/FONT]
 
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gotti

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ارے بھائی اپنے آپ وہ کام کر رہے ھو جو اسلام کے دشمن بھی آپ سے بہتر نہیں کر سکتے

امریکہ سے پیسے تو نہیں لیے؟


yaar in jaahilon ko samjhao kay la illaha illa iran

ajeeb jahanummi log hain, iran kay khilaaf baat ker rahay hain?

murtad, nasibi, wahabbi, khariji, kaafir, jahannumi (az ______ <-- sunni kitab ka hawala yahan fit kerain)

inko hawalay do bhai, kay tum kitnay sahi ho, shiaforums.com per jao aur answering-ansar.org per, wahan say laa ker do, woh wahi say kam nahi

phir inko pata chalay ga raah-e-haq kiya cheez hoti hai, iran kay khilaaf baat kertay hain, tareekh e islam say bilkul waaqif nahi, tum batao inko yaar

Allah kay rasul (s.a.w.) kay sahabi aur azwaaj ko jo bolna hai bolo, us say koi rokay ga to yeh baat firqawariyat kay zimray main aa jayegi, ghalat hai yeh aur na insaafi hai

iss per humain imam alay salam kay tarz per qatal o gharat ka bazar garam kerna chahiye hai

Youtube per ghatiya film banaye to koi baat nahi (nahi yaar, asal main woh anhadees say hi li hai na, rushdie bhi wahan say baatain laya hai na)

humain anhadees chor ker doosri kitabon per imaan laana chahiye hai takay imaan pukhta ho

yaani woh kitaabain jo humain yeh dars daiti hain kay Allah ki kitaab, jiski hifaazat unhon nay khud kerni hai, ussay aik badmaash aur vahiyaat bakri khaa gayi

yaani Allah say barri hoti hai aik Bakri, is say haqaiq saamnay aatay hain, anhadees say thurri, isi tarah to ghair musalmaan islam main aaingay

Allah kay Rasul (s.a.w.) kay qareeb tareen rishtaydaar, bhaiyyon aur biwiyon ko bura bhala bolna bhi theek hai, iss say bhi iman pukhta hota ha

yeh baatain theek hain kernii

uski wajah dar asal yeh hai kay unkay qareeb tareen saathi agar dhoka daitay rahay to is say to Rasul Allah (s.a.w.) ki "image" ghair musalmaanon main zyada achi hoti hai

woh kaisay? kyunkay unko yeh andaaza hota hai kay Allah kay Mahbub (s.a.w.), jinka saya tak na tha, unki qurbat main aisay log thay aur Allah nay is cheez ki ijaazat di

yeh hi to daleel aur aqal ki bunyaad per falsafa aur imaan qaaim kernay ka tareeqa hai, sikhao inko

laikin youtube waali video ka kiya kerain? woh gustaakhi thi? laikin sirf iss liye takay Amreeki sifaaratkhano per hamla kiya jaye aur "inqilaab" ki yaadain taza hon, iran waala inqilaab yaar, yaad nahi? jab mardudan e khomeni nay amreeki embassy main ghuss ker badmaashi ki thi aur logon ko yargamal banaya tha

laikin yaar agar koi aur groh jaye to anhadees lay ker aao jis main yeh likha ho kay "Allah kay Rasul (s.a.w.)" nay sifaratkhano ki kitni hifaazat ki

bhai inko momin banao aur raah-e-haq per lao, jahilon ko

ajeeb laanti log hain (az _______ sunni kitab ka hawala fit kijiye)
 
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mrcritic

Minister (2k+ posts)
Mr. Critic

Blind criticism makes no sense, so Mr. Critic you can critic but with some logic. Don't misquote me, I said Muslims do not take Jews and Christians as friends which is a command of Quran but I did NOT state that we kill them all.

Please read Quran, Allah Taa'ala has clearly warned us about Jews and their hatred and also told us that, "what they have in their hearts is much worse then what appears from their mouth".


{يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ لاَ تَتَّخِذُواْ الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضٍ وَمَن يَتَوَلَّهُم مِّنكُمْ فَإِنَّهُ مِنْهُمْ إِنَّ اللّهَ لاَ يَهْدِي الْقَوْمَ الظَّالِمِينَ**
“O you who have faith (in Allah) do not take (such) Jews and (such) Christians as your friends and allies who themselves are friends and allies of each other. And whoever from amongst you turns to them (for friendship and alliance) now belong to them (and not to us). Surely Allah does not guide a wicked people.”
(Qur’ān, al-Māida, 5:51)
 
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gotti

Guest
I am not going to give you any oppertunity to complicate the things. Instruction is complete only when 60:7-10 are also considered. I am copying it again here ... not for you ... but for the justice minded ppl to not come under your ill intended trap...!!!

[FONT=PDMS_IslamicFont]عجب نہیں کہ خدا تم میں اور ان لوگوں میں جن سے تم دشمنی رکھتے ہو دوستی پیدا کردے۔ اور خدا قادر ہے اور خدا بخشنے والا مہربان ہے (۷)[/FONT][FONT=PDMS_IslamicFont]جن لوگوں نے تم سے دین کے بارے میں جنگ نہیں کی اور نہ تم کو تمہارے گھروں سے نکالا ان کے ساتھ بھلائی اور انصاف کا سلوک کرنے سے خدا تم کو منع نہیں کرتا۔ خدا تو انصاف کرنے والوں کو دوست رکھتا ہے (۸) [/FONT][FONT=PDMS_IslamicFont]خدا ان ہی لوگوں کے ساتھ تم کو دوستی کرنے سے منع کرتا ہے جنہوں نے تم سے دین کے بارے میں لڑائی کی اور تم کو تمہارے گھروں سے نکالا اور تمہارے نکالنے میں اوروں کی مدد کی۔ تو جو لوگ ایسوں سے دوستی کریں گے وہی ظالم ہیں (۹)[/FONT]

Brother, I don't know anything about Islam or Qur'an but I only know one thing. If you don't believe that Iran is Heaven, and Khomeini is god, you're going to hell.

Because I believe that cursing is a part of my religion and going shirtless in a place of worship to brutalize myself is acceptable along with doing so with sharp objects in public and disturbing the minds of impressionable kids with gory acts. I also hate animal rights and taking care of other creatures of God.

If you can't understand them feel pain or hear them squeal, writhe and scream in pain, it means that they don't feel pain and it is also a fact that they are lower "makhlooq" so we have no responsibility in not harming them. Therefore, torturing animals such as horses to emulate an event that took place 1400 years ago with murky details about what actually took place, is definitely going to get me saved from hellfire.

Also, disrespecting other people's faiths and doing so in a place of worship with the use of language that wouldn't even be shown on TV under any censorship laws in any country due to the explicitness of the choice of words - is also a show of my belief.

With regards to freedom of religion and acceptance towards the faiths of others, I also believe that other people's holy figures should be cursed publicly and their religious sensitivities need to be disregarded, altogether and whoever even slightly thinks of talking against having their religious sensitivities being affected should be murdered in cold blood, immediately.

Not accepting the existence of anyone's faith and realizing that what I do is right even though the whole world thinks otherwise is cultist behavior but it doesn't matter, I am going to heaven due to my aforementioned beliefs. (Also, cult psychology).
 
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gotti

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Yazidiyo!

Iran, Iraq, Syria aur Lebanon main honay walay mazalim kay khilaaf awaaz uthatay ho

Takfeeriyo, insaani huqooq aur masoom bachon aur aurton kay liye dil dukhatay ho

Bashar al Assad jaisay mazloomon kay liye tumhara dil nahi dukhta, haye meray Allah in zaalimo ko jahannum kay bad tareen darjaat atta farma

Baaqi gaalian koi aur khud daal day, hum gaalian nahi daitay
 
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