Re: THE GLORIOUS ANCESSTORS OF PAKISTAN ARMY
adonis_look said:
PaniPatt said:
[quote="adonis_look":28nnvqp4]Did anybody ask zaid Hamid what crime had those iranains committed for inviting attack from muslim army.. these days we hear alot of cry anguish over how america is doign this doign that for no reason. Can we shed little light on what was that muslim army doing in iran in first place without any provocation.
it was the time when there was not islam in iran..they use to worship fire...there was a big percian empire who challenged musim same like Romans did..and again same like Raja dahir did in case of india....so in all cases muslims had to face these biggest super powers of tht times....so in the video tht era is going to be discussed..not the current iran..it has nothing to do with this video.....take care..n hav a nice day
Fact is no persain army or raja dahir's army went to islamic state.. neither any spanish army came to islamic state.. islamic army went with their sword.... BiN qasim even sent letters demanding ruler fo Gujrat to either convert or face his sword
Worshipping fire or whatever is not crime against muslims..
So the question remaisn why atatck a country which has not attacked you.. if that was kosher then why crib now when usa is giving taste of the same internetionaist medicine
Case of turkey constantinpople is more curious.. here prophet prophecis that whoever wins that country will go to heaven.. yes that was reason enough for five hundred years of atatck one after another.. once again no turkish army came to islamic state of arabia.. in each and every case islamic army was the aggresor..
so question remaisn why crib now when others have enough power and givign the taste of same medicine[/quote:28nnvqp4]
@ Adonis_look
I think you also have become the victim of half truth syndrome who tries to manifest the facts of history with his own prejudices and distorted feelings. First and foremost on the issue of Raja Dahir of Sindh and his provocations (The lootings and capturing the commodities of trade and personnel) against the naval trade caravans of the Arab Muslims is well documented even in the oriental history books and no doubt Ummayads being the de facto but superpower of the world at that time responded the way superpowers use to respond against its adversaries in the past and present. Yes regarding the subsequent military expeditions of the Arab Muslim armies of that time it is well grooved in the teachings of Quran and Holy Prophet PBUH that God has no tolerance for those who dont accept His teachings and prescribed order of the world and hence he urged this Ummah (The divine community of Muslims of the world) to have zero tolerance for those hegemonic and cruel systems and ideologies of the world which are on the collision course of Islamic teachings whether in a direct or indirect way. La Hukmu Ila Lilah (There would be no other order of this world except the orders of Allah The Almighty). So youre right Islam and its followers have zero tolerance for other corrupt and twisted ideologies and have the divine authority to replace them with the order of Islam whether its opponents like it or not.
But this thing should be kept in mind that there would be no more forced conversions and unjust killings of those individuals if, after usurping their exploitative and hegemonic systems in some parts of the world, they dont bring themselves in direct / indirect confrontation against Islamic order of things. Those non Muslim subjects have to although accept the superiority and dominance of Islam and history is rife with this fact that after displacing the conflicting monarchies and polytheistic systems in vast regions of the world ruling Muslim armies never committed the mass murder of those regions in the earliest phase of Islamic conquests. And yes thats why Iran was attacked like many other regions of the world to bring the enlightened vision and divine message of The Almighty. And some regions were also attacked because of their blatant and excessive provocations like in the case of Indian subcontinent. So youre right in your observation that when the same medicine has now been given to the Muslim regions of the world in the last two centuries from the Zionist western powers then Muslims should also not cringe upon those actions as it is natural that every community which upholds any particular ideology right or wrong would try to spread its shadows and solidify its footholds on every region of the world if the circumstances allow it to do and this is what is happening in the current era by the US and its Zionist allies including the Indian Zionists in its South Asian region. At least Im not one of those who wholly criticise those oppressive powers but you might notice here on this forum that I usually attack the feeble and slave rulers of the Muslim world the most and pinpoint them the main cause of their downfall and current state of affairs which are nothing but deplorable and rightly so.
P.S: Unless and until these two ideologies (Islamic and its adversaries) put a complete dominance over its antagonist there would be no lasting peace and order in this world and Im afraid this process of seesaw struggle would continue till the end of times until then we would have to wait and see who will dominate and decisively defeat its bitter and ferocious rival in the coming years or decades and only then there would be any chance for someone like you and me to comment on the affectability and successful nature of those orders of the world. Let us rest our case with the unbiased historians of the coming generations and era to vindicate and abhor those orders and systems of the world which these two ideologies have designed and implemented in their respective era of dominance and influence.
