Teachings of Pervaiz Kazzab: Challenges for Mugal1

crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The British created three personalities to corrupt the minds of the Indian Muslims. To fulfil their designs of distortion of the meanings of the Holy Quran and divide the Muslims of the Sub-continent.

All of them have done similar job for the enemies of Islam, but with slightly different style, emphasis and purpose.

1- Sir Syed Ahmed Khan was the first one who brought the new meanings to the verses of the Holy Quran and tried to make it subservient to the Laws of Nature i.e. close to the Atheism. He was a well know “naturists” but he used the cover of “Education” to fool the Muslims. He used the excuse that Muslims should gain modern education, but his main objective was the changes to the meanings of the Holy Quran. He was the first one in the sub-continent to claim that Jesus As has died.

2-Second one was Mirza Ghulam Ahmad his mission was similar. But he went a step further and claimed prophethood. He also proclaimed by borrowing the idea from SSAK that ISA As has died. He adds another invention that Isa As migrated to India and died at the age of 120/125.

3-The third personality is Ghulam Ahmad Pervaiz, his agenda was the same to change the meanings of the Holy Quran and change it to profess and teach “Atheism”.

Mughal1 is here to spread the teachings of Ghulam Ahmad Pervaiz, even though it is most probable he is an ex-Qadiani. Lets look at some of the concoctions of Pervaiz for the teachings and meanings of the Holy Quran.

He had no beliefs in Angels, Adam, and Ascension of Jesus etc. In brief, he opposed the verses of the Holy Quran, which wouldn’t fit and subjugate to Science. Or in a nutshell, he has made the Powers of Allah SWT from Creation to running of the Universe subservient to the Laws of Nature and Science.

"Usually we think that Adam whose story is mentioned in the Quran was 2/3rd of Prophet. The Quran doesn't second it. From the account the Quran has given about Adam, it appears that Adam who departed the Heaven was not any person in particular but only a portrait of humanity. In other words this is not the story of any particular person or pair, but it is the story of man, which the Quran has narrated, in a personifying style. This story starts when the man change from primitive life to the social life.”

This paragraph from his Lughatul Quran in a nutshell tells us the aim and purpose of Pervaiz, to change the meanings of the Holy Quran to suit the theory of evolution and acceptance of Atheism. He is trying to deny the existence and creation of Adam, instead says, it was not a particular man, but a portrait of humanity.

He further wrote:

"This question, how did the first men evolve? Has been the cause of thousand surprise for human mind. In those regions wherein the superstition has replaced the fact many stories has been coined to solve this belief."

So in other words he is attributing to the Holy Quran the allegations of coined story telling or superstitions (nauzobillah).

Now read this please, how this re-incarnation of Iblis is justifying his “Atheists” ideology from the Holy Quran, nauzobillah.

"But whatever the Quran has told is the same what is led by the findings of prudence and knowledge. According to the discoveries of the science, the particles of dust after centuries of evolution get changed into human shape". "That is to say that no man came into being for the first time but a specie came into being. The details of these various stages are found in the Quran." (Iblis and Adam)

Do you see, what Mr. Mugal1 believes in? I challenged him to provide one single work of a scientist who said that particles of dust evolved and get changed in to human shape”.

Now lets turn to the issue of death of Isa As. And look at the translation and tafsir of Surah Al-Imran by Pervaiz Kazzab.

53 Those who opposed Jesus, plotted in secret against him. Allah on the other hand, devised the means to protect him. And surely His means are the best of all.

54 Jesus’ enemies conspired to crucify him but Allah said to him. “Be assured! their conspiracy will not succeed. You will fulfil your mission and die a natural death (5/177). You will be exalted. I will absolve you to the allegations levelled against you and take you far away from the grip of these conspirators. At present your followers appear to be weak, but eventually they will overcome their enemies and remain victorious for a long time.”

“Keep this in mind that such disputes and confrontation are ultimately settled according to My Law of Mukafat.”

55-56 According to that Law those who reject the truth face torment in this world and the Hereafter and none can rescue them from it. On the other hand, those who accept the truth and work for its establishment are fully rewarded. And Allah does not like zalimeen.

57 These are the historical annals and Laws which have been revealed to you by Allah, O Rasool.
My dear Muslim Brothers and Sisters, Pervaiz was exactly like Mirza Kazzab, with only one difference he didn’t overtly claimed Prophethood, but their missions, ideology and concoctions were the same.


Look at how he has translated and explained the verse 55 of Surah Al-Imran. This is exactly what Mirza did, he said Isa As did not die on the cross, even though he As was crucified but did not die.
He was smuggled out of the area and migrated to Kashmir through Iran and present day Pakistan and lived there for a grand old age of 120/125.

We live Mirza on one side at the moment; we will deal with it if Ehraz want to have a go. Lets deal with Mr. Mugal1 first.

Mr. Mugal1, you should give us answers to the following questions:
1- When did this conversation between Allah SWT and Jesus As took place?

2- How did it take place? I mean what were the means?

3- What were the Plans of Allah SWT for Jesus As?

4- Where and how Isa As fulfilled his mission?

5- When did he died a natural death and where?

6- Where did Allah SWT take Isa As far away from evil conspirators?

7- When did the followers of Isa As over came their enemies according to the translation and tafsir of “Pervaiz”? Who were these followers exactly?

8- Prove the translation of Pervaiz from the Arabic of the Holy Quran for the Verses 55 of Surah Al-Imran.

9- Show us where the Holy Quran decreed “These are the historical annals and Laws which have been revealed to you by Allah, O Rasool.”?

My brothers and sister, let see how this Pervaiz Kazzab over comes the next problem in the Verses of Surah Al-Imran.

First let me quote the translation from Picktall:

إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَى عِندَ اللّهِ كَمَثَلِ آدَمَ خَلَقَهُ مِن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُون (
3:59)

3:59 Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is.

Now let’s see how Pervaiz translated and explained this verse of the Holy Quran.


58-59
Moving from the Jews to the Christians, take up their claim that Jesus was the son of Allah. Tell them: “The birth of Jesus is like the birth of any other human being. Life emerged from inanimate objects and passing through evolutionary stages culminated in human form. This is the truth from Allah and there is no room for doubt or dispute in this matter.”

You may have noticed my brothers and sisters, with one stroke, Pervaiz Kazzab has denied the creation of Adam As, the miraculous birth of Isa As, by adding that Isa As was born like the birth of any other human being.

As you can see, his sole motive is clear in his translation “life emerged from inanimate objects and passing through evolutionary stages culminated in human form.”

He is denying the power of Creation of Allah SWT and denying well-known Islamic principle Allah SWT says “Kun” be and it “faikun” is.

Mr. Mugal1 For time being let us see if you can successfully answer these questions. Because I got lot more to come, before you can get out of you troubles. Choice is yours, you want to add the writings of Mirza in to it, be my guest.
 
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Mysticreed

Banned
I am only interested in the response of Mughal1 to question number 5 of crank. Where and when did he die and also am adding where is he buried ????????????????? The answer to my modified question will help solve the quiz in just one stroke by me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Sayeen

Councller (250+ posts)
I dont know the objective of this post or the hidden agenda of cranktheskunk is .... but one thing is clear that without Aligarh University there would have been no Pakistan. All the young blood and enthusiasm for Tehreek-e-Pakistan was led by students of Aligarh University and without it Muslims of the subcontinent would have remained uneducated and could have never been able to compete with Hindus and the British.
 

Islamabadi1

Minister (2k+ posts)
The British created three personalities to corrupt the minds of the Indian Muslims. To fulfil their designs of distortion of the meanings of the Holy Quran and divide the Muslims of the Sub-continent.

All of them have done similar job for the enemies of Islam, but with slightly different style, emphasis and purpose.

1- Sir Syed Ahmed Khan was the first one who brought the new meanings to the verses of the Holy Quran and tried to make it subservient to the Laws of Nature i.e. close to the Atheism. He was a well know “naturists” but he used the cover of “Education” to fool the Muslims. He used the excuse that Muslims should gain modern education, but his main objective was the changes to the meanings of the Holy Quran. He was the first one in the sub-continent to claim that Jesus As has died.

2-Second one was Mirza Ghulam Ahmad his mission was similar. But he went a step further and claimed prophethood. He also proclaimed by borrowing the idea from SSAK that ISA As has died. He adds another invention that Isa As migrated to India and died at the age of 120/125.

3-The third personality is Ghulam Ahmad Pervaiz, his agenda was the same to change the meanings of the Holy Quran and change it to profess and teach “Atheism”.

Mughal1 is here to spread the teachings of Ghulam Ahmad Pervaiz, even though it is most probable he is an ex-Qadiani. Lets look at some of the concoctions of Pervaiz for the teachings and meanings of the Holy Quran.

He had no beliefs in Angels, Adam, and Ascension of Jesus etc. In brief, he opposed the verses of the Holy Quran, which wouldn’t fit and subjugate to Science. Or in a nutshell, he has made the Powers of Allah SWT from Creation to running of the Universe subservient to the Laws of Nature and Science.



This paragraph from his Lughatul Quran in a nutshell tells us the aim and purpose of Pervaiz, to change the meanings of the Holy Quran to suit the theory of evolution and acceptance of Atheism. He is trying to deny the existence and creation of Adam, instead says, it was not a particular man, but a portrait of humanity.

He further wrote:



So in other words he is attributing to the Holy Quran the allegations of coined story telling or superstitions (nauzobillah).

Now read this please, how this re-incarnation of Iblis is justifying his “Atheists” ideology from the Holy Quran, nauzobillah.



Do you see, what Mr. Mugal1 believes in? I challenged him to provide one single work of a scientist who said that particles of dust evolved and get changed in to human shape”.

Now lets turn to the issue of death of Isa As. And look at the translation and tafsir of Surah Al-Imran by Pervaiz Kazzab.




Look at how he has translated and explained the verse 55 of Surah Al-Imran. This is exactly what Mirza did, he said Isa As did not die on the cross, even though he As was crucified but did not die.
He was smuggled out of the area and migrated to Kashmir through Iran and present day Pakistan and lived there for a grand old age of 120/125.

We live Mirza on one side at the moment; we will deal with it if Ehraz want to have a go. Lets deal with Mr. Mugal1 first.

Mr. Mugal1, you should give us answers to the following questions:
1- When did this conversation between Allah SWT and Jesus As took place?

2- How did it take place? I mean what were the means?

3- What were the Plans of Allah SWT for Jesus As?

4- Where and how Isa As fulfilled his mission?

5- When did he died a natural death and where?

6- Where did Allah SWT take Isa As far away from evil conspirators?

7- When did the followers of Isa As over came their enemies according to the translation and tafsir of “Pervaiz”? Who were these followers exactly?

8- Prove the translation of Pervaiz from the Arabic of the Holy Quran for the Verses 55 of Surah Al-Imran.

9- Show us where the Holy Quran decreed “These are the historical annals and Laws which have been revealed to you by Allah, O Rasool.”?

My brothers and sister, let see how this Pervaiz Kazzab over comes the next problem in the Verses of Surah Al-Imran.

First let me quote the translation from Picktall:

إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَى عِندَ اللّهِ كَمَثَلِ آدَمَ خَلَقَهُ مِن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُون (
3:59)

3:59 Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is.

Now let’s see how Pervaiz translated and explained this verse of the Holy Quran.



You may have noticed my brothers and sisters, with one stroke, Pervaiz Kazzab has denied the creation of Adam As, the miraculous birth of Isa As, by adding that Isa As was born like the birth of any other human being.

As you can see, his sole motive is clear in his translation “life emerged from inanimate objects and passing through evolutionary stages culminated in human form.”

He is denying the power of Creation of Allah SWT and denying well-known Islamic principle Allah SWT says “Kun” be and it “faikun” is.

Mr. Mugal1 For time being let us see if you can successfully answer these questions. Because I got lot more to come, before you can get out of you troubles. Choice is yours, you want to add the writings of Mirza in to it, be my guest.


This is what I call hypocrisy at it HEIGHT...the opening line of your pathetic useless post is
The British created three personalities to corrupt the minds of the Indian Muslims. To fulfil their designs of distortion of the meanings of the Holy Quran and divide the Muslims of the Sub-continent.

Yet you yourself have gone on to settle in the land of the SAME British. Freaking immigrant moron get a life.

Lastly people like Ghulam Ahmed Pervez have more knowledge in their little finger than you can have in your pea brain.
 

yeh-cheez

Minister (2k+ posts)
wtf.....another qadyani dragging thread..is this all life is all about now??? have we forgotten that we are all answerable fr our own deeds???

crank....whats wrong with you my friend....i was just trying to have a word with you in another thread...and here you are...with the same motive..?? you sound a reasonable guy......yet....!!
 

crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
This is what I call hypocrisy at it HEIGHT...the opening line of your pathetic useless post is

Yet you yourself have gone on to settle in the land of the SAME British. Freaking immigrant moron get a life.

Lastly people like Ghulam Ahmed Pervez have more knowledge in their little finger than you can have in your pea brain.

Considering he is dead and you are here, take his place, I am sure you have access to his books and teachings, as his follower.

Consider these questions are for you too. We will see how much knowledge he had and how much is transferred to you through his books and Tafsir.

I am settled here, because of my forefathers. Remember before SSAK started to established his stall, there were people coming to UK for education and training he himself visited. He was not the only one who knew the value of education. For Muslims the importance of Education is made clear in the Holy Quran.

Why are you enraged? I can see there are plenty of people with raw nerves here, coming forth ever since I started these threads to challenge some people, I bet they are mostly Qadianis, I mean those who are enraged. [hilar][hilar]
 

crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I dont know the objective of this post or the hidden agenda of cranktheskunk is .... but one thing is clear that without Aligarh University there would have been no Pakistan. All the young blood and enthusiasm for Tehreek-e-Pakistan was led by students of Aligarh University and without it Muslims of the subcontinent would have remained uneducated and could have never been able to compete with Hindus and the British.

And if I say to you, both my father and grandfather were graduates of Aligarh University and if I tell you that my forefathers were the one who helped SSAK to acquire the land in Aligarh, build it and operate it, then what would be your response?

By the way, my forefathers knew his motives and his thinking and that he is an "Atheists", but they did it for the benefits of the Muslims. I am not criticising establishment of Aligarh, I am only crticising the motives of SSAK in the translation of the Holy Quran. I am entitle to it. Education is different from distortion of the Holy Quran. I hope you understand the difference.
 

Unicorn

Banned
And if I say to you, both my father and grandfather were graduates of Aligarh University and if I tell you that my forefathers were the one who helped SSAK to acquire the land in Aligarh, build it and operate it, then what would be your response?

By the way, my forefathers knew his motives and his thinking and that he is an "Atheists", but they did it for the benefits of the Muslims. I am not criticising establishment of Aligarh, I am only crticising the motives of SSAK in the translation of the Holy Quran. I am entitle to it. Education is different from distortion of the Holy Quran. I hope you understand the difference.

Thanks to your father and grandfather for helping build the University. At the time there were to many Fatwas of SSAK therefore most of its students were non-Muslims. It was the modern University at the time.

See I am a great full person.
 

Sayeen

Councller (250+ posts)
And if I say to you, both my father and grandfather were graduates of Aligarh University and if I tell you that my forefathers were the one who helped SSAK to acquire the land in Aligarh, build it and operate it, then what would be your response?

I bet you are lying.
 
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Narcissist

Banned
1- Sir syed was enlightened person, he knew that with the arrival of British in Delhi, Muslim supremacy in India is finished forever, as it used to be in times. He knew the plans of British to introduce 'Democracy in India', so according to simple calculations, number of Hindu population would always be almost double than Muslim population, so under democracy formula the chances of Muslim coming in power were next to none. Therefore he voiced for English education for Muslim. While traditional Madressahs (i.e. Brelvi, Deo bandi, and later Nadva etc.) considered it blasphemous to adopt a foreign language in everyday education.

Be judge yourself, today after almost 120 years of Sir Syed's death, who is in more benefit in India, Bengladesh or Pakistan ??? People educated in English language or traditional Arabic or include even Urdu, hindi or Bengali in that list. Even today people with British education have more edge in all manners in all fields of life on others.....isn't it so?

2- Jesus was human, so he died as other fellows of his time died. It is reality. Now come to belief.....you can have any about him. Died or did not die....or flew to heaven or came to Kashmir or to East Europe....so on so forth.

I think he was born under Roman empire rule on his land, in his age.....rulers never accepted his religion. Majority of people of his time, never accepted his beliefs. Christianity was not an important religion until Roman emperor Constantine (306 AD - 337 AD) became first convert to Christianity. Before that time, Christianity was not substantial religion for masses.
 

lotaa

Minister (2k+ posts)
Main ne Tu pehlay din hi keh diya tha,ye mughal1 baba dena,pakistani1 sab Qadyani Group se belong kartay hain,in sab ki khabasat ab bahir aa gai hay,ALALH hum ko in k shar se bachaye,aameen
The British created three personalities to corrupt the minds of the Indian Muslims. To fulfil their designs of distortion of the meanings of the Holy Quran and divide the Muslims of the Sub-continent.

All of them have done similar job for the enemies of Islam, but with slightly different style, emphasis and purpose.

1- Sir Syed Ahmed Khan was the first one who brought the new meanings to the verses of the Holy Quran and tried to make it subservient to the Laws of Nature i.e. close to the Atheism. He was a well know “naturists” but he used the cover of “Education” to fool the Muslims. He used the excuse that Muslims should gain modern education, but his main objective was the changes to the meanings of the Holy Quran. He was the first one in the sub-continent to claim that Jesus As has died.

2-Second one was Mirza Ghulam Ahmad his mission was similar. But he went a step further and claimed prophethood. He also proclaimed by borrowing the idea from SSAK that ISA As has died. He adds another invention that Isa As migrated to India and died at the age of 120/125.

3-The third personality is Ghulam Ahmad Pervaiz, his agenda was the same to change the meanings of the Holy Quran and change it to profess and teach “Atheism”.

Mughal1 is here to spread the teachings of Ghulam Ahmad Pervaiz, even though it is most probable he is an ex-Qadiani. Lets look at some of the concoctions of Pervaiz for the teachings and meanings of the Holy Quran.

He had no beliefs in Angels, Adam, and Ascension of Jesus etc. In brief, he opposed the verses of the Holy Quran, which wouldn’t fit and subjugate to Science. Or in a nutshell, he has made the Powers of Allah SWT from Creation to running of the Universe subservient to the Laws of Nature and Science.



This paragraph from his Lughatul Quran in a nutshell tells us the aim and purpose of Pervaiz, to change the meanings of the Holy Quran to suit the theory of evolution and acceptance of Atheism. He is trying to deny the existence and creation of Adam, instead says, it was not a particular man, but a portrait of humanity.

He further wrote:



So in other words he is attributing to the Holy Quran the allegations of coined story telling or superstitions (nauzobillah).

Now read this please, how this re-incarnation of Iblis is justifying his “Atheists” ideology from the Holy Quran, nauzobillah.



Do you see, what Mr. Mugal1 believes in? I challenged him to provide one single work of a scientist who said that particles of dust evolved and get changed in to human shape”.

Now lets turn to the issue of death of Isa As. And look at the translation and tafsir of Surah Al-Imran by Pervaiz Kazzab.




Look at how he has translated and explained the verse 55 of Surah Al-Imran. This is exactly what Mirza did, he said Isa As did not die on the cross, even though he As was crucified but did not die.
He was smuggled out of the area and migrated to Kashmir through Iran and present day Pakistan and lived there for a grand old age of 120/125.

We live Mirza on one side at the moment; we will deal with it if Ehraz want to have a go. Lets deal with Mr. Mugal1 first.

Mr. Mugal1, you should give us answers to the following questions:
1- When did this conversation between Allah SWT and Jesus As took place?

2- How did it take place? I mean what were the means?

3- What were the Plans of Allah SWT for Jesus As?

4- Where and how Isa As fulfilled his mission?

5- When did he died a natural death and where?

6- Where did Allah SWT take Isa As far away from evil conspirators?

7- When did the followers of Isa As over came their enemies according to the translation and tafsir of “Pervaiz”? Who were these followers exactly?

8- Prove the translation of Pervaiz from the Arabic of the Holy Quran for the Verses 55 of Surah Al-Imran.

9- Show us where the Holy Quran decreed “These are the historical annals and Laws which have been revealed to you by Allah, O Rasool.”?

My brothers and sister, let see how this Pervaiz Kazzab over comes the next problem in the Verses of Surah Al-Imran.

First let me quote the translation from Picktall:

إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَى عِندَ اللّهِ كَمَثَلِ آدَمَ خَلَقَهُ مِن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُون (
3:59)

3:59 Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is.

Now let’s see how Pervaiz translated and explained this verse of the Holy Quran.



You may have noticed my brothers and sisters, with one stroke, Pervaiz Kazzab has denied the creation of Adam As, the miraculous birth of Isa As, by adding that Isa As was born like the birth of any other human being.

As you can see, his sole motive is clear in his translation “life emerged from inanimate objects and passing through evolutionary stages culminated in human form.”

He is denying the power of Creation of Allah SWT and denying well-known Islamic principle Allah SWT says “Kun” be and it “faikun” is.

Mr. Mugal1 For time being let us see if you can successfully answer these questions. Because I got lot more to come, before you can get out of you troubles. Choice is yours, you want to add the writings of Mirza in to it, be my guest.
 

crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I bet you are lying.

Unfortunately for you I am not Qadiani. I don't lie. Get over it, if you go deeper, depth of knowledge is far far deep than you can ever even imagine. And I got that directly from my forefathers. I am used to deal with several of Qadianis at once successfully and like I said I have mastered Mirza's writings and teachings in last 5 years. You can neither fool me nor get pass.
 

khawaja555

Councller (250+ posts)
The British created three personalities to corrupt the minds of the Indian Muslims. To fulfil their designs of distortion of the meanings of the Holy Quran and divide the Muslims of the Sub-continent.

All of them have done similar job for the enemies of Islam, but with slightly different style, emphasis and purpose.

1- Sir Syed Ahmed Khan was the first one who brought the new meanings to the verses of the Holy Quran and tried to make it subservient to the Laws of Nature i.e. close to the Atheism. He was a well know “naturists” but he used the cover of “Education” to fool the Muslims. He used the excuse that Muslims should gain modern education, but his main objective was the changes to the meanings of the Holy Quran. He was the first one in the sub-continent to claim that Jesus As has died.

2-Second one was Mirza Ghulam Ahmad his mission was similar. But he went a step further and claimed prophethood. He also proclaimed by borrowing the idea from SSAK that ISA As has died. He adds another invention that Isa As migrated to India and died at the age of 120/125.

3-The third personality is Ghulam Ahmad Pervaiz, his agenda was the same to change the meanings of the Holy Quran and change it to profess and teach “Atheism”.

Mughal1 is here to spread the teachings of Ghulam Ahmad Pervaiz, even though it is most probable he is an ex-Qadiani. Lets look at some of the concoctions of Pervaiz for the teachings and meanings of the Holy Quran.

He had no beliefs in Angels, Adam, and Ascension of Jesus etc. In brief, he opposed the verses of the Holy Quran, which wouldn’t fit and subjugate to Science. Or in a nutshell, he has made the Powers of Allah SWT from Creation to running of the Universe subservient to the Laws of Nature and Science.



This paragraph from his Lughatul Quran in a nutshell tells us the aim and purpose of Pervaiz, to change the meanings of the Holy Quran to suit the theory of evolution and acceptance of Atheism. He is trying to deny the existence and creation of Adam, instead says, it was not a particular man, but a portrait of humanity.

He further wrote:



So in other words he is attributing to the Holy Quran the allegations of coined story telling or superstitions (nauzobillah).

Now read this please, how this re-incarnation of Iblis is justifying his “Atheists” ideology from the Holy Quran, nauzobillah.



Do you see, what Mr. Mugal1 believes in? I challenged him to provide one single work of a scientist who said that particles of dust evolved and get changed in to human shape”.

Now lets turn to the issue of death of Isa As. And look at the translation and tafsir of Surah Al-Imran by Pervaiz Kazzab.




Look at how he has translated and explained the verse 55 of Surah Al-Imran. This is exactly what Mirza did, he said Isa As did not die on the cross, even though he As was crucified but did not die.
He was smuggled out of the area and migrated to Kashmir through Iran and present day Pakistan and lived there for a grand old age of 120/125.

We live Mirza on one side at the moment; we will deal with it if Ehraz want to have a go. Lets deal with Mr. Mugal1 first.

Mr. Mugal1, you should give us answers to the following questions:
1- When did this conversation between Allah SWT and Jesus As took place?

2- How did it take place? I mean what were the means?

3- What were the Plans of Allah SWT for Jesus As?

4- Where and how Isa As fulfilled his mission?

5- When did he died a natural death and where?

6- Where did Allah SWT take Isa As far away from evil conspirators?

7- When did the followers of Isa As over came their enemies according to the translation and tafsir of “Pervaiz”? Who were these followers exactly?

8- Prove the translation of Pervaiz from the Arabic of the Holy Quran for the Verses 55 of Surah Al-Imran.

9- Show us where the Holy Quran decreed “These are the historical annals and Laws which have been revealed to you by Allah, O Rasool.”?

My brothers and sister, let see how this Pervaiz Kazzab over comes the next problem in the Verses of Surah Al-Imran.

First let me quote the translation from Picktall:

إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَى عِندَ اللّهِ كَمَثَلِ آدَمَ خَلَقَهُ مِن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُون (
3:59)

3:59 Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is.

Now let’s see how Pervaiz translated and explained this verse of the Holy Quran.



You may have noticed my brothers and sisters, with one stroke, Pervaiz Kazzab has denied the creation of Adam As, the miraculous birth of Isa As, by adding that Isa As was born like the birth of any other human being.

As you can see, his sole motive is clear in his translation “life emerged from inanimate objects and passing through evolutionary stages culminated in human form.”

He is denying the power of Creation of Allah SWT and denying well-known Islamic principle Allah SWT says “Kun” be and it “faikun” is.

Mr. Mugal1 For time being let us see if you can successfully answer these questions. Because I got lot more to come, before you can get out of you troubles. Choice is yours, you want to add the writings of Mirza in to it, be my guest.
cranc sahib main akhbar parne ki had tak para likha hoon is liekoi ziada ilmi behs main nahin par sakta aap ne shuru main farmaya keh sir seyd mirza ghulam ahmed qadiani aur ghulam ahmed pervaiz british agenda par kaam kar rahe thay muje is baat par ikhtlaf he , jaisa keh ham sab jante hain ke isai(masihi) hazrat Isa AS ko khuda ka beta aur khuda mante hain. british ne muslims ko khatam karne ke lie apne khuda ko maar diya? british ne apne teen agents ko kaha ke tum hamare khuda ko maar do lekin muslims ko khatam kar do?agar aap ki baat maan li jaye to ek british agent sir seyed ahmed khan ki madad aap ke kehne ke mutabiq aap ke baap dada ne ki yani british agenda ko aage baraya agar aisa he to aap bi brabar ke hisedar huway phir rona kis baat ka?mera koi irada aap ki insult ka nahin lekin do sawal jo me ne kie hain us ka jawab de kar shukria ka moqa den :jazak:
 

lotaa

Minister (2k+ posts)
Bhai jaan jo banda b thori si arabi janta hay,ya Quraan Majeed Ko Tarjma k sath parhta hay,jab wo socalled sir sayed ka tarjuma parhay ga,tu is us ka khoon ghussay se kholnay lagay ga,apni marzi ka tarjuma kiya aur apni marzi ki tashreeh sir sayed ne,tajuma Quraan Majeed ka karna har Alam k bas ki baat nahi,is liay kai aloom seekhnay parhtay hain,ALLAH hum sab ko hadyet de aameen,
cranc sahib main akhbar parne ki had tak para likha hoon is liekoi ziada ilmi behs main nahin par sakta aap ne shuru main farmaya keh sir seyd mirza ghulam ahmed qadiani aur ghulam ahmed pervaiz british agenda par kaam kar rahe thay muje is baat par ikhtlaf he , jaisa keh ham sab jante hain ke isai(masihi) hazrat Isa AS ko khuda ka beta aur khuda mante hain. british ne muslims ko khatam karne ke lie apne khuda ko maar diya? british ne apne teen agents ko kaha ke tum hamare khuda ko maar do lekin muslims ko khatam kar do?agar aap ki baat maan li jaye to ek british agent sir seyed ahmed khan ki madad aap ke kehne ke mutabiq aap ke baap dada ne ki yani british agenda ko aage baraya agar aisa he to aap bi brabar ke hisedar huway phir rona kis baat ka?mera koi irada aap ki insult ka nahin lekin do sawal jo me ne kie hain us ka jawab de kar shukria ka moqa den :jazak:
 

pak4rule

Senator (1k+ posts)
[MENTION=12943]crankthskunk[/MENTION]

brother jazakAllah for this post and trust me , you wont get any proper response, instead they all will turn up with lousy talk , calling you lier , or else and will try to drag the conversation to another way by posting malicious things about beloved PBUH or Quran or Allah as they know it will make us angry and the real questions will be ignored and all will busy in responding to their idiotic allegations.
 

babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
Main ne Tu pehlay din hi keh diya tha,ye mughal1 baba dena,pakistani1 sab Qadyani Group se belong kartay hain,in sab ki khabasat ab bahir aa gai hay,ALALH hum ko in k shar se bachaye,aameen

Allah kee ****** ho Kazbeen par: If blind people can not read
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?78503-Qabar-ka-Azab-amp-Gher-muslim
Post No.11, and then after reading that all accuse other without any reason,
then again million time Allah kee ****** ho kazbeen par.
 

Narcissist

Banned
I could not find out, how Sir Syed or Mirza Gulam served British Empire??? How?

People just accuse them, but cannot provide with any kind of evidence. Same kind of allegation are put by Wahabi's on Moulana Ahmad Raza of Breli. While same allegation are put on wahabi's to help British to break Ottoman empire.

So people, come up with some justified evidences, proofs.... not mere allegation!!!
 

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