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The British created three personalities to corrupt the minds of the Indian Muslims. To fulfil their designs of distortion of the meanings of the Holy Quran and divide the Muslims of the Sub-continent.
All of them have done similar job for the enemies of Islam, but with slightly different style, emphasis and purpose.
1- Sir Syed Ahmed Khan was the first one who brought the new meanings to the verses of the Holy Quran and tried to make it subservient to the Laws of Nature i.e. close to the Atheism. He was a well know “naturists” but he used the cover of “Education” to fool the Muslims. He used the excuse that Muslims should gain modern education, but his main objective was the changes to the meanings of the Holy Quran. He was the first one in the sub-continent to claim that Jesus As has died.
2-Second one was Mirza Ghulam Ahmad his mission was similar. But he went a step further and claimed prophethood. He also proclaimed by borrowing the idea from SSAK that ISA As has died. He adds another invention that Isa As migrated to India and died at the age of 120/125.
3-The third personality is Ghulam Ahmad Pervaiz, his agenda was the same to change the meanings of the Holy Quran and change it to profess and teach “Atheism”.
Mughal1 is here to spread the teachings of Ghulam Ahmad Pervaiz, even though it is most probable he is an ex-Qadiani. Lets look at some of the concoctions of Pervaiz for the teachings and meanings of the Holy Quran.
He had no beliefs in Angels, Adam, and Ascension of Jesus etc. In brief, he opposed the verses of the Holy Quran, which wouldn’t fit and subjugate to Science. Or in a nutshell, he has made the Powers of Allah SWT from Creation to running of the Universe subservient to the Laws of Nature and Science.
This paragraph from his Lughatul Quran in a nutshell tells us the aim and purpose of Pervaiz, to change the meanings of the Holy Quran to suit the theory of evolution and acceptance of Atheism. He is trying to deny the existence and creation of Adam, instead says, it was not a particular man, but a portrait of humanity.
He further wrote:
So in other words he is attributing to the Holy Quran the allegations of coined story telling or superstitions (nauzobillah).
Now read this please, how this re-incarnation of Iblis is justifying his “Atheists” ideology from the Holy Quran, nauzobillah.
Do you see, what Mr. Mugal1 believes in? I challenged him to provide one single work of a scientist who said that particles of dust evolved and get changed in to human shape”.
Now lets turn to the issue of death of Isa As. And look at the translation and tafsir of Surah Al-Imran by Pervaiz Kazzab.
Look at how he has translated and explained the verse 55 of Surah Al-Imran. This is exactly what Mirza did, he said Isa As did not die on the cross, even though he As was crucified but did not die.
He was smuggled out of the area and migrated to Kashmir through Iran and present day Pakistan and lived there for a grand old age of 120/125.
We live Mirza on one side at the moment; we will deal with it if Ehraz want to have a go. Lets deal with Mr. Mugal1 first.
Mr. Mugal1, you should give us answers to the following questions:
1- When did this conversation between Allah SWT and Jesus As took place?
2- How did it take place? I mean what were the means?
3- What were the Plans of Allah SWT for Jesus As?
4- Where and how Isa As fulfilled his mission?
5- When did he died a natural death and where?
6- Where did Allah SWT take Isa As far away from evil conspirators?
7- When did the followers of Isa As over came their enemies according to the translation and tafsir of “Pervaiz”? Who were these followers exactly?
8- Prove the translation of Pervaiz from the Arabic of the Holy Quran for the Verses 55 of Surah Al-Imran.
9- Show us where the Holy Quran decreed “These are the historical annals and Laws which have been revealed to you by Allah, O Rasool.”?
My brothers and sister, let see how this Pervaiz Kazzab over comes the next problem in the Verses of Surah Al-Imran.
First let me quote the translation from Picktall:
إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَى عِندَ اللّهِ كَمَثَلِ آدَمَ خَلَقَهُ مِن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُون (
3:59)
3:59 Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is.
Now let’s see how Pervaiz translated and explained this verse of the Holy Quran.
You may have noticed my brothers and sisters, with one stroke, Pervaiz Kazzab has denied the creation of Adam As, the miraculous birth of Isa As, by adding that Isa As was born like the birth of any other human being.
As you can see, his sole motive is clear in his translation “life emerged from inanimate objects and passing through evolutionary stages culminated in human form.”
He is denying the power of Creation of Allah SWT and denying well-known Islamic principle Allah SWT says “Kun” be and it “faikun” is.
Mr. Mugal1 For time being let us see if you can successfully answer these questions. Because I got lot more to come, before you can get out of you troubles. Choice is yours, you want to add the writings of Mirza in to it, be my guest.
All of them have done similar job for the enemies of Islam, but with slightly different style, emphasis and purpose.
1- Sir Syed Ahmed Khan was the first one who brought the new meanings to the verses of the Holy Quran and tried to make it subservient to the Laws of Nature i.e. close to the Atheism. He was a well know “naturists” but he used the cover of “Education” to fool the Muslims. He used the excuse that Muslims should gain modern education, but his main objective was the changes to the meanings of the Holy Quran. He was the first one in the sub-continent to claim that Jesus As has died.
2-Second one was Mirza Ghulam Ahmad his mission was similar. But he went a step further and claimed prophethood. He also proclaimed by borrowing the idea from SSAK that ISA As has died. He adds another invention that Isa As migrated to India and died at the age of 120/125.
3-The third personality is Ghulam Ahmad Pervaiz, his agenda was the same to change the meanings of the Holy Quran and change it to profess and teach “Atheism”.
Mughal1 is here to spread the teachings of Ghulam Ahmad Pervaiz, even though it is most probable he is an ex-Qadiani. Lets look at some of the concoctions of Pervaiz for the teachings and meanings of the Holy Quran.
He had no beliefs in Angels, Adam, and Ascension of Jesus etc. In brief, he opposed the verses of the Holy Quran, which wouldn’t fit and subjugate to Science. Or in a nutshell, he has made the Powers of Allah SWT from Creation to running of the Universe subservient to the Laws of Nature and Science.
"Usually we think that Adam whose story is mentioned in the Quran was 2/3rd of Prophet. The Quran doesn't second it. From the account the Quran has given about Adam, it appears that Adam who departed the Heaven was not any person in particular but only a portrait of humanity. In other words this is not the story of any particular person or pair, but it is the story of man, which the Quran has narrated, in a personifying style. This story starts when the man change from primitive life to the social life.”
This paragraph from his Lughatul Quran in a nutshell tells us the aim and purpose of Pervaiz, to change the meanings of the Holy Quran to suit the theory of evolution and acceptance of Atheism. He is trying to deny the existence and creation of Adam, instead says, it was not a particular man, but a portrait of humanity.
He further wrote:
"This question, how did the first men evolve? Has been the cause of thousand surprise for human mind. In those regions wherein the superstition has replaced the fact many stories has been coined to solve this belief."
So in other words he is attributing to the Holy Quran the allegations of coined story telling or superstitions (nauzobillah).
Now read this please, how this re-incarnation of Iblis is justifying his “Atheists” ideology from the Holy Quran, nauzobillah.
"But whatever the Quran has told is the same what is led by the findings of prudence and knowledge. According to the discoveries of the science, the particles of dust after centuries of evolution get changed into human shape". "That is to say that no man came into being for the first time but a specie came into being. The details of these various stages are found in the Quran." (Iblis and Adam)
Do you see, what Mr. Mugal1 believes in? I challenged him to provide one single work of a scientist who said that particles of dust evolved and get changed in to human shape”.
Now lets turn to the issue of death of Isa As. And look at the translation and tafsir of Surah Al-Imran by Pervaiz Kazzab.
53 Those who opposed Jesus, plotted in secret against him. Allah on the other hand, devised the means to protect him. And surely His means are the best of all.
54 Jesus’ enemies conspired to crucify him but Allah said to him. “Be assured! their conspiracy will not succeed. You will fulfil your mission and die a natural death (5/177). You will be exalted. I will absolve you to the allegations levelled against you and take you far away from the grip of these conspirators. At present your followers appear to be weak, but eventually they will overcome their enemies and remain victorious for a long time.”
“Keep this in mind that such disputes and confrontation are ultimately settled according to My Law of Mukaf’at.”
55-56 According to that Law those who reject the truth face torment in this world and the Hereafter and none can rescue them from it. On the other hand, those who accept the truth and work for its establishment are fully rewarded. And Allah does not like z’alimeen.
57 These are the historical annals and Laws which have been revealed to you by Allah, O Rasool.
My dear Muslim Brothers and Sisters, Pervaiz was exactly like Mirza Kazzab, with only one difference he didn’t overtly claimed Prophethood, but their missions, ideology and concoctions were the same.
Look at how he has translated and explained the verse 55 of Surah Al-Imran. This is exactly what Mirza did, he said Isa As did not die on the cross, even though he As was crucified but did not die.
He was smuggled out of the area and migrated to Kashmir through Iran and present day Pakistan and lived there for a grand old age of 120/125.
We live Mirza on one side at the moment; we will deal with it if Ehraz want to have a go. Lets deal with Mr. Mugal1 first.
Mr. Mugal1, you should give us answers to the following questions:
1- When did this conversation between Allah SWT and Jesus As took place?
2- How did it take place? I mean what were the means?
3- What were the Plans of Allah SWT for Jesus As?
4- Where and how Isa As fulfilled his mission?
5- When did he died a natural death and where?
6- Where did Allah SWT take Isa As far away from evil conspirators?
7- When did the followers of Isa As over came their enemies according to the translation and tafsir of “Pervaiz”? Who were these followers exactly?
8- Prove the translation of Pervaiz from the Arabic of the Holy Quran for the Verses 55 of Surah Al-Imran.
9- Show us where the Holy Quran decreed “These are the historical annals and Laws which have been revealed to you by Allah, O Rasool.”?
My brothers and sister, let see how this Pervaiz Kazzab over comes the next problem in the Verses of Surah Al-Imran.
First let me quote the translation from Picktall:
إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَى عِندَ اللّهِ كَمَثَلِ آدَمَ خَلَقَهُ مِن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُون (
3:59)
3:59 Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is.
Now let’s see how Pervaiz translated and explained this verse of the Holy Quran.
58-59 Moving from the Jews to the Christians, take up their claim that Jesus was the son of Allah. Tell them: “The birth of Jesus is like the birth of any other human being. Life emerged from inanimate objects and passing through evolutionary stages culminated in human form. This is the truth from Allah and there is no room for doubt or dispute in this matter.”
You may have noticed my brothers and sisters, with one stroke, Pervaiz Kazzab has denied the creation of Adam As, the miraculous birth of Isa As, by adding that Isa As was born like the birth of any other human being.
As you can see, his sole motive is clear in his translation “life emerged from inanimate objects and passing through evolutionary stages culminated in human form.”
He is denying the power of Creation of Allah SWT and denying well-known Islamic principle Allah SWT says “Kun” be and it “faikun” is.
Mr. Mugal1 For time being let us see if you can successfully answer these questions. Because I got lot more to come, before you can get out of you troubles. Choice is yours, you want to add the writings of Mirza in to it, be my guest.
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