Tamil Actress Monika converts to Islam and quits cinema

[Imranpak]

If they are under attack by foreign forces then what was the starting point? And whose responsiblity to protect them? Do you quote couple of non Muslim countries who are under attach by invaders. Its very easy to shift responsibility.

The starting point was 9/11 that I believe was orchestrated for such things. Prior to that the world was a much calmer place in case it missed you. If western forces leave Muslim lands peace will gradually occur, I am blaming NATO because they are responsible for killing million's of Muslim's, there will be massive resistance. As for responsibility no Muslim country wants the protection of NATO troops so they should leave, by contrast no non-Muslim country is being attacked by Muslim one...I don't know what you are on about here.

 

[bons]

That's your personal (typical) view as a muslim. I think she made a big mistake but that's my personal opinion as a Hindu. Hopefully she will realise her mistake. Thankfully in India you can still quit Islam without necessarily being killed. In the mean time I wish her all the best. Peace

In india you can quit Islam without being killed but you are killed being a Muslim. Shameful india....

Despite your intellectuallism your name says it all.

 

[Ali raza babar]

Whats wrong with you honey? I am not Indian. "Us" mean you and me and other 20 million Pakistanies, the ones who always complain after elections results. The ones who depends on CJ so motto or CM/PM notices once crime committed. Like killing of poor girl in LHC or rape of few molvies in Mansehra. Notices are taken and course of law took its part. Why it didn't active itself. Whey it didn't protect innocent at first place, even before crime committed.

No go and start comparison again with Inida, and other non-Musltim countries, even when you think you are superior because you have only one good credit because you are muslim by birth.

Would you mind sharing your address so I might pay you a visit?

Secondly your precise punctuation and upper and lower case lettering is telling me how much of a blogger are you.
Buzz off you mole before I burst your bubble

 

[QADIANITRUTH]

This proves that India is a civilized country. People have right to choose their religion. There are many uncivilized countries where you can't do it.

Pl come out of this illusion. Let me give you some examples of India's civilization.

- Babri majid
- Orissa burning of churches and killings
- Poster with sons burnt alive
- Nuns raped and the rapist got away with it.
- India earned the title of rapistan or delhi as rape capital... do I have to elaborate?
- Watch recent news and see how 'dalits' are treated in general and how thier women are raped and killed
- my Indian Muslim friends are worried sick after Modi coming to power
- My Hindu colleague would not give his house for rent to Muslims
- Indian actors cannot get an apartment in Mumbai .... remmeber?
- Gujtrat, Samjhota Express, Mumabai attack.. all were carried out by 'civilised' Indians but blamed on ISI. Later proved inside jobs.


do I need to say more??

Come out of this fake belief and work to improve your society... Now your only defence will be attack on pakistan.. that won't turn your evil into good.

 

[Zionist Hindu]

Pl come out of this illusion. Let me give you some examples of India's civilization.

- Babri majid
- Orissa burning of churches and killings
- Poster with sons burnt alive
- Nuns raped and the rapist got away with it.
- India earned the title of rapistan or delhi as rape capital... do I have to elaborate?
- Watch recent news and see how 'dalits' are treated in general and how thier women are raped and killed
- my Indian Muslim friends are worried sick after Modi coming to power
- My Hindu colleague would not give his house for rent to Muslims
- Indian actors cannot get an apartment in Mumbai .... remmeber?
- Gujtrat, Samjhota Express, Mumabai attack.. all were carried out by 'civilised' Indians but blamed on ISI. Later proved inside jobs.


do I need to say more??

Come out of this fake belief and work to improve your society... Now your only defence will be attack on pakistan.. that won't turn your evil into good.

Crime is crime in India. But it is becoming norm in Pakistan.

 

[klosedstreet]

Would you mind sharing your address so I might pay you a visit?

Secondly your precise punctuation and upper and lower case lettering is telling me how much of a blogger are you.
Buzz off you mole before I burst your bubble

I knew it. You gonna judge and threat finally. Perhaps this is the ultimate answer to others' point of views. Your language, intolerance, aggression, etc are self-explanatory. But still I respect your opinion. This would be my last response to your comments.

 

[Ali raza babar]

I knew it. You gonna judge and threat finally. Perhaps this is the ultimate answer to others' point of views. Your language, intolerance, aggression, etc are self-explanatory. But still I respect your opinion. This would be my last response to your comments.

And i Knew it That you would Buzz Off , Like you your Mates do when i ask for the Address.


Yeah Right.

 

[PkRevolution]

Indian Film actress accepted Islam. Monica is called Rahima now.

How beautiful and elegant does she look in Hijaab. MashaAllah

Monica now called Raheema has been offered millions to work again for films. She rejected it and said even for a Billion she will not come back.

Music Director Shankar Raja has accepted Islam as well.

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[lurker]

Good for her. But a few months ago the same guys here who are commending her would've been the one's who were cursing her and treating her like trash. She is lucky she probably never came on siasat.pk. Otherwise she'd had run away from Islam. :P

 

[klosedstreet]

And i Knew it That you would Buzz Off , Like you your Mates do when i ask for the Address.


Yeah Right.

What else you share with others?

 

[modern.faker]

" sau choohe kha kar billi haz ko chali " [hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]

 

[shabir bhat]

It is really amazing to see people here fighting over religion to prove superiority of their race/religion by showing the others in bad light (well accept it or not, we all might have different religions but we are part of the same race)! I don't believe in any worldly religion, from the worlds' perspective u can call me atheist; but, I believe in the philosophy of being a good human, irrespective of religious beliefs. I am Indian by the way, majority of people posting here are Pakistani; going gaga over the conversion on a Hindu girl to Islam in India by her own will n trying to portrait this case as universal one (more importantly to mock Hinduism)! As in, there are no forced conversions in Pakistan! Be happy for this particular case coz this certainly was willful conversion but feel sorry for thousands of "Rinkle Kumaris" of Pakistani; who, even though the daughters of Pakistan, have always been violated and their violation being hushed to protect national pride! Can you not feel to pain of these girls and the trauma/humiliation of their family members? At this particular moment (the time I writing it n the time u r reading) some of them might be getting raped (legally), without any hope of returning to their family.

"SubhanAllah" a word that one could see more then 50% of posts on this topic. To all these people "in the name of Allah" should you not criticize forced conversions to Islam as well? Isn't it your moral responsibility to call a spade a spade? I would have appreciated people appreciating her conversion and also raising the issue of forced conversion which still is going on unabashed in Pakistan, on the same forum. Alas! we are more religious then humane. We can use one instance and extrapolate it to a level of universal truth (to glorify our religion) but we won't condemn wrongdoings done by the people of our religion coz it will give chance to others to denounce our religion. And how can people following our faith be portrayed in evil light? SO the message comes out very loud "no forced conversion, Hindus should see even in India Hindu women converted to Islam (by her own will), why do they have to cry when the country is Pakistan (even though in the heart of hearts we all know the actual truth)"! Is it really so? Are conversions of minorities in Pakistan always by free will (agreed, some of them might actually b "free will conversion"; but, by enlarge most of the girls from minority community are abducted and forced into Islam)?

I see Hindu people criticizing Islam, and Muslims mocking Hinduism! is this the only thing we are best at? can't we cross-over the limits of religion and be more humane and start criticizing any wrongdoing keeping religion at bay? Or our criticism will always b, as it has always been, biased (based on religion).

I certainly ask these kinds of questions from myself every day, Can't all of us; for once, go through a few moments of introspection and feel whether or not the supernatural power we believe in, would want us to be a bit more compassionate/open hearted and feel for the pains of the victims (without any bias to religion) and raise the issues of weaker sections of our respective societies?

 

[modern.fakir]

UN Official: India’s ‘Conversion’ Laws Threaten Religious Freedom
By Vishal Arora

Indian Muslim women walk past the Bhagyalakshmi temple, near the historic Charminar monument, in the old city section of Hyderabad on Nov. 16, 2012. Noah Seelam/Agence France-Presse/Getty Images

India’s laws restricting religious conversions–intended to protect people from being forced to change their beliefs — are an obstacle to religious freedom, a senior United Nations figure said in an interview.
Heiner Bielefeldt, the UN’s special rapporteur on freedom of religion or belief, spoke to The Wall Street Journal last week.

The laws he discussed apply in Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh, Odisha, Gujarat and Himachal Pradesh, and vary state by state. The Gujarat Freedom of Religion Act, for instance, says a person who wants to convert to another religion must first get permission from the district magistrate to do so. Mr. Bielefeldt argues that the laws place unreasonable restrictions not only on people’s right to convert to another religion, but also their right to propagate their own religion.

Edited excerpts:

The Wall Street Journal: What are some of your observations about religious freedom in India?
Heiner Bielefeldt: It’s a birthplace of many world religions. In terms of diversity, it’s second to not a single other country. There’s a heritage of pluralism. But secularism has come under threat in India. Apart from communal violence, the main point that ranks the highest is anti-conversion laws.

WSJ: Can you please elaborate?

Mr. Bielefeldt: Conversion can mean turning to another religion or inviting someone else to turn to my religion. The former is absolutely protected [in the UN's understanding.] Causing someone else to convert is not absolutely protected as a right, nevertheless it is involved in freedom of religion and strongly protected. The state has to ensure this is possible in a non-coercive manner.
The anti-conversion laws primarily threaten not the convert, but the missionaries. For example, the prohibition of coercion is mixed with very vague concepts like inducement or allurement. Any invitation [to another religion] has an element of inducement or allurement. The law particularly in Gujarat carries a high penalty of three years’ imprisonment based on such loosely defined terms. This doesn’t do justice even to the rule of law, in which laws need to be clear, especially in criminal law.

WSJ: So this legislation doesn’t affect the right of a person to adopt another religion?

Mr. Bielefeldt: The converts themselves in Gujarat have to undergo, I’d say, a humiliating bureaucratic procedure, exposing themselves and explaining the reasons [for their conversion] as if the State were in a position of being able to assess the genuineness of conversion. This is disrespect of freedom of religion or belief.

The laws are also applied in a discriminatory manner in the practice of “re-conversion.” [This term describes cases where people revert back to their original beliefs.] Re-conversion, or so-called homecoming, ceremonies are encouraged [by some of these laws.] I heard from eyewitnesses how Indian festivals are used or abused to stage big ceremonies of mass re-conversions.

WSJ: You travelled to meet survivors of the violence against Christians in Gujarat’s Dangs district in 1998, and of the violence against Muslims in that state in 2002 where more than 1,000 people, mainly Muslims, were killed. You also visited Orissa’s Kandhamal district and Karnataka where anti-Christian violence occurred in 2008. What’s your impression of what happened?

Mr. Bielefeldt: There is a continued climate of fear, and maybe that’s even the purpose. The acts of violence are part of a broader pattern of instigating fear into the minorities, sending them a message they don’t belong to this country unless they either keep at the margins or turn to Hinduism.

People feel that not enough has been done. The state apparatus seems to function to a certain degree, nevertheless the extremely late, slow responses of some important actors like law and enforcement and security indicate a clear gap in protection.

http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2014/03/10/un-official-indias-conversion-laws-threaten-religious-freedom/

 

[modern.fakir]

The biggest rubbish myth of India allowing people to convert without any prejudice or bias is busted up in the article ratified by a UN observer ...indians apart from building toilets and stopping a rape crisis need to allow religion to flourish without fear of persecution :biggthumpup:

Pakistan can assist if requested !

 

[shabir bhat]

@KhanHaripua, what are u talking man? not all Muslims are saint n not all Hindus are evil. M sure given an option, many people irrespective of religions would have denounced their religion because of so much of orthodoxy in all religions, ppl are not even allowed to think about an alternate school of thoughts. Like in your case "quench the light of Islam"!! what are you doing by writhing these kinds of comments? Or shall I put it this way: u r trying hard to "quench the light of Hinduism" by denouncing it altogether.. now I m sure u must also b "burning inside" after reading my comment.. take a chill dear enjoy like following ur religion n let others follow theirs.

 

[modern.faker]

The biggest rubbish myth of India allowing people to convert without any prejudice or bias is busted up in the article ratified by a UN observer ...indians apart from building toilets and stopping a rape crisis need to allow religion to flourish without fear of persecution :biggthumpup:

Pakistan can assist if requested !

toilet safai karne walo ki zarurat hai , tu apni gang ke sath taiyar rahna ,bus itni hi madad chahiye ,baki sari madad rok do mera malab azmal qasab wali madad se hai .

dhanyavad .

[hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]

 

[shabir bhat]

@modern.fakir: Who said there is no prejudice in India? I know to call a spade a spade! there is and will always be that kind of prejudice coz our ppl are so fanatically religious that they cant see beyond the walls of religion. But the constitution do not differentiate people in the name of religion. You cant get away with blatant forced conversion where u kidnap a minority girl rape her, don't let her meet any member of her community, produce a fake testimony in the court regarding the so called n ever so common "willful conversion" of the girl. After all this, as the girl had been decleared a muslim one is free to humiliate her n her religious beliefs in any way one pleases. Is this the kind of assistance you are talking about?

And in pakistan, rape of minority is not a crime as u can pic any girl from minority community, rape her for as long as you want, declare her Muslim n all u will get comments like "Allah-hu-Akbar" from her denizens. So only a few muslim girls who dare to speak are rape victims and none of the minority girls are ever raped. they just fall in love with muslims some of the age of their father n live happily ever after a court announces her willful conversion to Islam!

N if M not mistaken the rape law of Pakistan (till a few years back) was like if a girl complains about being raped she was asked to bring "four male witnesses" to prove that she was being raped and If she failed to provide such witnesses, she was convicted of zina, or extramarital sex... How ridiculous is that law! with that kind of law who will ever dare to file a case for being raped?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recogni..._Pakistani_law

what about this from wikipedia "Under traditional Islamic lawan apostate may be given up to three days while in incarceration to repent and accept Islam again and if not the apostate is to be killed without any reservations".. clearly u cannot convert from Islam n if u do ur light to live will b at the mercy of fanatics.

N m really shocked to see " :biggthumpup:" kinds of signs from you. Are we cracking a joke here? Don't you sense the gravity of the issue?

forced conversion, b it to any religion should b condemned n one should not try to divulge attention from the topic by pointing finger at what is happening anywhere else in the world..

 

[only_truths]

Who declared what? Courts gave Modi clean chit.

court also gave clean chit to hafiz saeed

That is not a good comparison, the day Hafiz Sayeed becomes PM of Pakistan, I will agree.

 

[only_truths]

Who declared what? Courts gave Modi clean chit.

Yet your dady America Declared him a Terrorist ?

Yet UN declared him a terrorist ?

Don't worry, he is going to America as a State guest in September !! Of course he will also address the UN General Assembly.

 

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