Taliban flog woman video

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A video showing a teenage girl being flogged by Taliban fighters has emerged from the Swat Valley in Pakistan, offering a shocking glimpse of militant brutality in the once-peaceful district, and a sign of Taliban influence spreading deeper into the country.




The two-minute video, shot using a mobile phone, shows a burka-clad woman face down on the ground. Two men hold her arms and feet while a third, a black-turbaned fighter with a flowing beard, whips her repeatedly.
"Please stop it," she begs, alternately whimpering or screaming in pain with each blow to the backside. "Either kill me or stop it now."
A crowd of men stands by, watching silently. Off camera a voice issues instructions. "Hold her legs tightly," he says as she squirms and yelps.
After 34 lashes the punishment stops and the wailing woman is led into a stone building, trailed by a Kalashnikov-carrying militant.




Reached by phone, Taliban spokesman Muslim Khan claimed responsibility for the flogging. "She came out of her house with another guy who was not her husband, so we must punish her. There are boundaries you cannot cross," he said. He defended the Taliban's right to thrash women shoppers who were inappropriately dressed, saying it was permitted under Islamic law.


The Guardian received the video through Samar Minallah, a Pashtun documentary maker and anthropologist who lived in Swat for two years in the late 1990s. It has been passed between Swat residents by mobile phones.


Ms Minallah said the punishment had been inflicted within the last 10 days, following the signing of a controversial peace deal under which the provincial government ceded control of the valley's judicial system to the militants.
"This video is being widely circulated because the Taliban want people to see it. They want to give the message that this is taking place after the peace deal because this is something they ideologically believe in," she said.




Local sources including journalists and human rights workers, some of whom declined to be identified, confirmed the video was recent, although estimates of its timing varied between one and three weeks ago. The Taliban spokesman said it predated the peace deal.
Sher Muhammad Khan, an official in Swat with the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, said: "They have committed so many atrocities since the peace deal. They have taken entire control of the district. There is nobody to control them; they decide disputes according to their whims."
Since the 15 February deal, a hybrid of traditional and Islamic law has been operational in Mingora, the largest city in Swat district. The qazi courts, as they are known, are not operated by the Taliban but by a related political movement. They have a murky legal status because the changes have yet to be signed into law.




Floggings and other physical punishments have not been imposed in Mingora, where some residents have praised the system's efficiency. However, in outlying districts, where government writ has been entirely crushed, a crude form of gun justice prevails.
The woman in the video, named as Chaand and believed to be aged 17, was punished in Matta, a district further up the Swat Valley.
Minallah and other sources said the girl was punished on suspicion of having had an illicit relationship with a married man. She did not receive a trial. "The whole case is based on the suspicions of one neighbour," said Minallah.


The woman's brother is among the men pinning her down, she added. "It's symbolic that he does it with his own hands. It gives him honour in local society, that he has done it for the sake of religion."
The Swat Valley is controlled by Maulana Fazlullah, a charismatic preacher who initially gained popularity through radio broadcasts, then seized control through gun battles, suicide attacks and intimidation of the local population.


Since the peace deal, women have been beaten for shopping unaccompanied in Mingora's main market and dozens of girls' schools remain closed, many of them bombed.
Fazlullah has sworn loyalty to Baitullah Mehsud, the overall Taliban leader from South Waziristan who claimed responsibility for last Monday's eight-hour assault on a police centre in Lahore and has vowed to mount attacks in Washington.


On Wednesday a presumed American drone fired rockets at a compound controlled by his network, killing at least 14 people.
The effective surrender of government authority in Swat has caused great alarm across Pakistan and among western allies.Minallah said she feared Talibanisation would spread across Pakistan. "I have distributed this video because I feel people are in denial. They don't want to believe what is happening."
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4cDVQNOoPU&e[/video]
The video can be seen here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/multimedia/20 ... ging.shtml
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2 ... y-flogging
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/ap ... n-flogging
 

razian97

Voter (50+ posts)
i think we dont need any external enemy in presence of those conserve minded nut shelled so called mujhadeens,to misuse islam.they are misusing the NAME OF REAL sharia in all over the world.....i think PAKISTAN has traped deeply into enemies plans SOMETHING IS SUSPICIOUS...MAY ALLAH TALA PROTECT OUR COUNTRY.AAMEEN
 

mmluqman

Voter (50+ posts)
jungli loog; Allah in ko samjhay. where is musharraf and his establishment now??? isn't government writ challenged now???
 

Alish

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
saray hukmraano ko line men khara ker kay goli maar do salon ko


i hate this politics

mafadaat ki jang men country k ek part ko kiss aaag men daal diya salo nay
 

sniperkhan

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
mmluqman said:
jungli loog; Allah in ko samjhay. where is musharraf and his establishment now??? isn't government writ challenged now???

what the fuck are u blaming musharraf for, huh?
you lot voted him out of power after he took actions against these animals in lal masjid. ab kaho na ke yeh bhee apnay muslmaan bhai hain. this video was on guardian website, i have seen classified videos of a whole lot of other shit that they are doing to women and children.
and i dare that khabees anchor mafia in geo (Hamid Meer) and express news (Wannabe-philosopher javed chaudary) show this video.
i am gonna say this clear and i dont care if i get banned from this site:
take a good look at this video boys, pretty soon these "poor locals" will be painting the REAR of YOUR mothers, sisters, cousins in red!and for God's sake, stop blaming musharraf and crawl out of ur holes
 

razian97

Voter (50+ posts)
I am trying to confirm from my own personal sources in SAWAT by different journalists weither that video is true or not ......initially I came to know that TALIBANS are denying about that video....
There are many forces operating in SAWAT for foreign AGENDA. And they want to sabotage swat peace deal....situation is much better than last months in swat.Sufi Muhammad is investigating about that GIRL incident as well. He is too much worry that whats happening
I shall share my any new and fresh information here in this forum
MAY ALLAH PROTECT OUR COUNTRY .AAMEEN
 
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arshad_lahore

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ALLAH Hum ko deen ki sahi samjh aur is per Aamal kerny ki tufeeq ata farma.. aur apny naik bando ko is mulk per haq-e-hukmrani ata farma na key in jaisy janwaroo ko jo taqat key awanoo main hoon yah sawat key gali koocho main.
inthai afsoos nak hay yeh sub kuch jo bhi humray mulak main hoo raha hay.Ya ALLAH humari qoum per reham farma aur humaray gunhao ki moafi ata farma..AAmin :oops:
 

Unorthodox

Senator (1k+ posts)
Jammat-e-Islaami Ameer's Reaction on Swat Valley Flogging
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IWu4H2S4Yo[/video]
 

razian97

Voter (50+ posts)

1. That incident happened in October 2008 before current peace deal of swat
2. Local group of Taliban were involve
3. Now Taliban spokesmen have denied that we are not involved in any such kind of act after swat deal.

CONCLUSION:
1. Investigation should be done carefully and properly to expose the elements that are behind this incidentmight be a TRY TO SABOTAGE peace deal.
2. GOVT SHOULD INVESTIGATE ALL THE ISSUE WITH ALL STATE POWER AND BRING THOSE TO JUSTICE AND PUNISH THEM.
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arshad_lahore

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inthai afsoos nak khilaat hay Jammat-e-Islaami key Ameer ka. :oops:
 

razian97

Voter (50+ posts)
arshad_lahore said:
inthai afsoos nak khilaat hay Jammat-e-Islaami key Ameer ka. :oops:
sayed munnawar HASSAN SAID
''agar AURAT QATTAL HU JAI drone humley me,tu koi shoor nae kurta ,,korey maray tu sub shoor kur rhay hain .QATAL BARA GUNA HAI YA KOREY...QATAL MERICAN KURTY HAIN TU APP LOOG ETNA HUSSASS NAEE HUTY ...AB KIO HAIN ''''

IF WE THINK NEUTRALLY,IT MAKES SENSE..but we have to do a lot to improve our system....razian97
 
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arshad_lahore

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Aslam o alaykum razian97 bahi, main aap sey mutafiq hoon key jo qatal ho rahy hay wo bhi sahi nahi, lakin agar aap dekhin tu Ameer Jamat islami tu jaisy taliban key tarjuman ki heyseeiay sey baat ker rahy hay. laykin main tu sirf itna hi kahoon ga yeh humary nabi MUHAMMAD S.A.W.W ka islam yeh nahi kehta , agar aap ko meri kisi baat sey dili takleef pohnchi hay tu main aaap sey moazrat karta hoon. ALLAH bless on u and our Pakistan. ALLAH HAFIZ
 

razian97

Voter (50+ posts)
arshad_lahore said:
Aslam o alaykum razian97 bahi, main aap sey mutafiq hoon key jo qatal ho rahy hay wo bhi sahi nahi, lakin agar aap dekhin tu Ameer Jamat islami tu jaisy taliban key tarjuman ki heyseeiay sey baat ker rahy hay. laykin main tu sirf itna hi kahoon ga yeh humary nabi MUHAMMAD S.A.W.W ka islam yeh nahi kehta , agar aap ko meri kisi baat sey dili takleef pohnchi hay tu main aaap sey moazrat karta hoon. ALLAH bless on u and our Pakistan. ALLAH HAFIZ
Respected brother I also agree the way sayed munnwar Hassan spoke is unacceptable. he is AMEER and leader of a religious organisation. he shouldnt react like that, especially while speaking to media in front of millions of viewers. This kind of reactions spread hatred in public.
in my personal opinion ABOUT GIRL FLOG VIDEO is an attempt to spread hate and sabotage peace deal in SAWAT
 

aligul11

Citizen
It's a consequence of our nation's deeds and character.... And believe me its just a small glimpse of what is happening in reality.... the nation better prepare itself for a civil war... they wont agree anthing short of "killing them all"
 

sniperkhan

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
i wonder if anyone else noticed that your beloved Imran KHan has gone conspicously missing in all this mess!
doesnt have the guts to come and defend the "poor locals" after this.
 

Adeel

Founder
sniperkhan said:
i wonder if anyone else noticed that your beloved Imran KHan has gone conspicously missing in all this mess!
doesnt have the guts to come and defend the "poor locals" after this.

It just happened. How about wait and see before making your conclusion. Blind hatred of anyone isn't good
 

sniperkhan

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Adeel said:
It just happened. How about wait and see before making your conclusion. Blind hatred of anyone isn't good

who said i hate him blindly? i never did. but as for the wait and see, well we didnt have to "wait" for him to "see" his steadfast defense of the taliban terrorists. so why have his guns fallen silent. just until yesterday he was holding a press conference with all his 15 party members so wheres he gone now?
 

Adeel

Founder
sniperkhan said:
Adeel said:
It just happened. How about wait and see before making your conclusion. Blind hatred of anyone isn't good

who said i hate him blindly? i never did. but as for the wait and see, well we didnt have to "wait" for him to "see" his steadfast defense of the taliban terrorists. so why have his guns fallen silent. just until yesterday he was holding a press conference with all his 15 party members so wheres he gone now?

Stop making stuff up man. He does not support Taliban version of religion. He is against the way war being fought. There are extremist everywhere and the way our own army killing their own people is wrong.

All he is saying is that you can not win a war like that.

You jump to write against him the slightest opportunity you see.
 

razian97

Voter (50+ posts)
sniperkhan said:
i wonder if anyone else noticed that your beloved Imran KHan has gone conspicously missing in all this mess!
doesnt have the guts to come and defend the "poor locals" after this.
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