Some proofs that TTP / Alqaeda / Taliban are all one and the same

salmakh84

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
casper: i dont beleive western media (which u shouldny blindy) but you QUOTE WIKIPEDIA which ANYONE can EDIT? lols

You havent answered my questions... please answer them first.

I think PAKISTAN should STOP helping america and being american ALLY.. then if SOMEONE still attacks Pakistan, phir baaat karain gay.. cause right now Pakistan is attacked because it is an AMERICAN ALLY. Simple
 

casper

MPA (400+ posts)
casper: i dont beleive western media (which u shouldny blindy) but you QUOTE WIKIPEDIA which ANYONE can EDIT? lols

You havent answered my questions... please answer them first.

I think PAKISTAN should STOP helping america and being american ALLY.. then if SOMEONE still attacks Pakistan, phir baaat karain gay.. cause right now Pakistan is attacked because it is an AMERICAN ALLY. Simple

yes of course wikipedia is editable but thats what most people belive, thats why its there, im not asking you to belive it, thats the main stream thought and your links on our post are all main stream information.
i have tried to answer most of your questions if you read carefully,


of course pakistan should stop supporting usa, its not gonna happen in an instance, we got to get rid of these sold out leaders to start of. Then who ever comes into power has to be clean and not scared of being assinated by forien powers.


the video above also CNN tells you about sects its all there, it mentioned in the quran.

The most important thing you must understand is " disinformation" its to make all the taliban one, so our pak army can fight all of afghanistan, saving the americans and nato, making nieghbours fight , muslim brothers fight thats the plot my dear you dont get.

answer my questions from the last post if you can :)

 
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salmakh84

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
yes of course wikipedia is editable but thats what most people belive, thats why its there, im not asking you to belive it, thats the main stream thought and your links on our post are all main stream information.
i have tried to answer most of your questions if you read carefully,


of course pakistan should stop supporting usa, its not gonna happen in an instance, we got to get rid of these sold out leaders to start of. Then who ever comes into power has to be clean and not scared of being assinated by forien powers.


the video above also CNN tells you about sects its all there, it mentioned in the quran.

The most important thing you must understand is " disinformation" its to make all the taliban one, so our pak army can fight all of afghanistan, saving the americans and nato, making nieghbours fight , muslim brothers fight thats the plot my dear you dont get.

answer my questions from the last post if you can :)


I'll answer my questions when you answer mine. You didnt answer my questions but just said all this information is fake and wikipedia (who ANYONE can edit and is NEVER considered an AUTHENTIC source for writing papers) is to be believed.

Pakistan Army wants to gain sympathy of religious minded people (who originally supported Taliban) thats why they want to create this rift between mujahideen.

Just answer this: If a Kaffir (Read: America) attacks Muslims (Afghanistan) and another person HELPS America (Pakistan Army), why do you defend the other person? Its simple, Pak Army is American Ally thats why its Right to fight against them. Did Pak Army EVER deny that they are american allies? NO. Infact, They OPENLY claim that we are FRONT LINE ALLIES.

I think all people who SUPPORT army are hypocrites. They can be good PAKISTANIs but NOT GOOD MUSLIMS.

Don't care if its TTP/Haqqani etc.. Allah will NOT ask us whether Osama or Baitullah Or Even Mullah Omer was right or WRONG. Allah will ask us, WHAT DID WE DO? Did we fight the opressor (America & Allies) or Became their allies??

Every person has to go to his/her grave
 

moazzamniaz

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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اجل کنول

MPA (400+ posts)
کیا فرق پڑتا ہے کہ مختلف دہشت گرد اداروں کا آپس میں باہمی تعلق ہے یا نہیں - آگر یہ اسلام کا نام لے کر جنگ میں غیر اسلامی طریقہ استعمال کرتے ہیں، بے گناہوں کی جان لیتے ہیں تو سب ایک ہی تھالی کے چٹے بٹے ہیں
 

allahkebande

Minister (2k+ posts)
پاکستان آرمی نے ہمشیہ مشکل وقتوں میں قوم کا دفاع کیا۔ پاکستان آرمی نے ہمیشہ زلزلے یا کسی آفت کے وقت پاکستان کی مدد کی ہے۔ اور اب جو یہ دھماکے ہورہے ہیں جس میں ہم ہی میں سے بے گناہ جانیں جارہی ہیں، انہوں نے اس کے خلاف ایکشن لیا ہے اور آپریشن کیا ہے۔ ہمیں ان پر نظر ڈآلنی چاہئے جو بچوں، اسکولوں، اور جنازوں پر حملے کرتے ہیں دین کے نام پر۔ ان سے برا کون ہے جو دین کے نام پر ایسے کام کرکہ عوام کا ساتھ لینے کی کوشش کرتے ہیں۔

 

M Ali Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
THIS IS A MUST READ ARTICLE ABOUT TTP ACTIVITY IN KARACHI AND THEIR TACTICS!!!!


Pakistani Taliban changing tactics

By Amir Mir

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/MI21Df02.html

ISLAMABAD - The attack on Monday by a suicide bomber who rammed his explosive-laden vehicle into the residence of a senior police official spearheading a campaign against the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) in the commercial capital Karachi makes it abundantly clear that the shock waves from the 9/11 terror attacks a decade ago show few signs of abating.

Pakistan has suffered 305 suicide bombings, the death of 4,847 people and injury of 10,227 others at the hands of al-Qaeda and Taliban-linked extremists in the aftermath of the 2001 terror attacks on New York and Washington. Karachi, Pakistan's largest city, main seaport and key financial center, which is also the capital of Sindh province, is one of the biggest sources of the


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Pakistani Taliban's funds through criminal activities like kidnappings and bank robberies.

Karachi has not seen as many TTP-sponsored suicide bombings as other major cities, but it is home to thousands of the group's militants who have fled army operations in the tribal areas. The first vehicle-borne suicide bombing in Pakistan was carried out in Karachi on May 8, 2002, when a human bomb drove his car into the side of a bus outside the Sheraton Hotel, killing 14 people including 11 French naval technicians.

Aslam Khan, the police senior superintendent who heads the anti-extremist cell of the Criminal Investigation Department (CID) in Karachi, survived the September 19 attack after a double-cabin vehicle packed with C4 explosives was rammed into the main gate at his residence in the heavily guarded Defence Housing Area at 7.30 am. Eight people including six policemen, a woman and a child, were killed. The proscribed TTP quickly claimed responsibility for the attack, saying Aslam had been responsible for the arrest of many of its key operatives.

"We will continue targeting all such police officers who are involved in the killing of our jihadi comrades," TTP spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan said when claiming responsibility for the attack.

The Karachi suicide attack was in keeping with the change in TTP tactics as the group has apparently decided to target top policemen and military officials involved in counterterrorism efforts. The change in tactic shows increasingly desperation because the TTP is now attacking soft targets, such as homes of law-enforcement officials in large cities, which are bound to be relatively unsecured, as opposed to government or military installations. The deaths of family members and neighbors would seem of little consequence to the attackers.

The attack came less than two weeks after another human bomb on September 7 rammed his explosive-laden vehicle into the Quetta residence of the deputy inspector general of the Baluchistan Frontier Corps, killing his wife and 24 others in a high-security zone in the city.

The Frontier Corps deputy inspector was targeted bomb because he was involved in the capture of Younis al-Mauritani, a senior member of al-Qaeda's external operations council, and his two aides, Abdul Ghaffar Al-Shami and Messara al-Shami. The three al-Qaeda operatives were arrested in a suburb of Quetta during a joint operation between the Baluchistan Frontier Corps and the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate.

The bombing was the TTP's second attempt in 10 months to assassinate Aslam Khan, who has repeatedly vowed to break the back of the TTP and crush its strong network in the port city, where it works in tandem with sectarian and militant groups. Monday's attack, which destroyed or damaged neighboring houses and killed many innocents in the posh area of Karachi, has once again highlighted that the war against al-Qaeda-linked Taliban extremists is no longer confined to the tribal belt of Pakistan but has reached the urban centers - be it Quetta, Peshawar, Rawalpindi, Islamabad, Lahore or Karachi.

The previous attempt to assassinate Aslam Khan was also made by a human bomber, who rammed his explosive-laden vehicle into the Karachi headquarters of the CID on November 11, 2010. Aslam and other officers of the CID - Fayyaz Khan, Omar Shahid and Mazhar Mashwani - who oversee the anti-extremism cell and run counter-terrorism operations in the port city, escaped unhurt. The attack began as an armed assault and ended with a truck bomb that killed at least 20 people and injured over 100 others. The CID building was being used to interrogate suspects belonging to TTP and other banned militant groups. The attack was carried out a day after Aslam had arrested six activists of the TTP-linked sectarian-cum jihadi group - Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ).

Aslam and his team members largely succeeded in breaking the TTP network in Karachi by arresting three successive ameers of the Karachi chapter of the group in recent months - Akhtar Zaman Mehsud and his successors Bahadur Khan Momand and Maulvi Saeed Anwer. This invited the wrath of the Karachi chapter of the TTP, which has links with militants in the country's tribal areas and with al-Qaeda and several banned militant and sectarian outfits. Therefore, the TTP's claim of responsibility soon after the September 19 attack came as little surprise.

Aslam told reporters he had been receiving threats from the al-Qaeda-linked Pakistani Taliban. "I was sleeping when they carried out this cowardly act and rammed an explosive-laden vehicle into my house," Aslam told the media outside his ruined residence. "But let me tell you, I will not be cowed. I will teach a lesson to generations of these militants. I did not know that these terrorists were such cowards that they would attack sleeping children."

Due to the nature of his work, the enemies of Aslam in the jihadi circles of Karachi are as countless and varied as the techniques he himself has used to arrest them. They range from the TTP and Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ) to drug-runners and target killers belonging to several major political parties, especially the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM).

Well-informed circles in the security agencies said the Karachi suicide attack was an attempt to demoralize law enforcement agencies, especially the Sindh Police CID, which in recent days has identified more than two dozen extremist militant and sectarian outfits in Karachi for a possible crackdown once the hunt for politically-backed target killers is over. Prominent alongside the TTP and LeJ among these sectarian and jihadi groups are also: Lashkar-e-Jhangvi Al Alami, Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan, Sipah-e-Muhammad Pakistan, Sunni Tehrik, Daawat-e-Islami, Harkatul Mujahideen, Harkatul Mujahideen Al Alami, Jaish-e-Mohammad, Jamaatul Furqaan, Harkatul Jehadul Islami, Jundallah, Tehrik-e-Islami , Lashkar-e-Muhammadi, Lashkar-e-Islami, Mehdi Militia, Hezbollah, and Tawheed Brigade.

Security sources said some TTP-linked elements had distributed a leaflet in various outskirts of Karachi in the first week of July, carrying a "hit list" of anti-jihadi personalities, threatening that they would be killed along with family members. The pamphlet justified jihad and urged "pure Muslims" to rise up against elements creating problems for jihadis who were described as the defenders of Islam and Pakistan.

According to the leaflet, the definition of a criminal had been changed in recent times. "Previously, it was used for robbers and dacoits, but after 9/11 the term is being used for those who are sincere with the religion of Islam and want to wage jihad against the forces of the infidel."

Those declared "liable to be killed" in the TTP pamphlet, along with the CID's Aslam Khan, included: Capital City Police Officer Karachi Saud Mirza; CID superintendent Fayyaz Khan; Anti-Violent Crime Unit Chief Farooq Awam; Special Investigation Unit chief Raja Omar Khattab; former Director General of the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) Wasim Ahmed; Sunni Deobandi scholar Mufti Mohammad Naeem, Shia scholar Mirza Yousuf Baig; and Muttahida Qaumi Movement leader Haider Abbas Rizvi. Television artists and anchors and some Karachi-based journalists were also on the list.

The TTP spokesman, Ehsanullah Ehsan, while claiming responsibility for the Karachi suicide bombing, stated, "Aslam Khan was on our hit list and his name will only be removed after he is killed. But let me tell you frankly, he is not the only one on our hit list. There are many other officers of the Karachi Police on our hit list who will be targeted and killed soon for having sided with the forces of the infidel".


Amir Mir is a senior Pakistani journalist and the author of several books on the subject of militant Islam and terrorism, the latest being The Bhutto murder trail: From Waziristan to GHQ.

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allahkebande

Minister (2k+ posts)
خدا دین کے نام پر پاکستان میں بربادی مچانے والوں کے نظریات کو بدلے۔
 

saraali

Voter (50+ posts)
Old thread but some interesting points.

@OP: Most of your links are not working anymore. Can you please update them?

Also, in light of new deals/news/evidence, what do people think now? Are they really one or is it jumble mumble and confusing?
 

abdlsy

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
good research, BUT WHAT WE COOMONERS WILL DO, watch and enjoy the show, any suggestion?????(bigsmile)
 

drkjke

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
the truth is that afghan Taliban ,Pakistani Taliban and alqaeda are one,united,under same flag..presently Pakistan Taliban are foighting jihad with alqaeda as far as Syria (where irani regimen with bashar ul asad is doing ethnic cleansing against muslims,pakistani Taliban also have pledged to take revenge from Burma budhists who have kicked thousands of muslims mercilessly in last one year alone)).the propaganda that you hear on media is by foreign and local agencies to create rifts between various mujahideen groups....there are so many proofs that I am tired of giving them again and again...if no one wants to believe this than who cares.we do not get any harm if whole humanity goes to hell.we are interested to save our ownself first,,if one does not want to listen to truth,we muslims are not asked to beg...for you your deen,and for us our deen.simple
 

drkjke

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
recently when America wanted to talk with Taliban the hamid kerzai regimen at first supported this dialogue,at that point they asked Pakistani govt to release senior afghan Taliban leaders that are under Pakistani army arrest....to show good will to Taliban.i tyhink army did not release them...zaid hamid like surkh topi dramas are agencies puppets to confuse people by propaganda against mujahideen,these people work for Zionists so they are as cunning as Zionists...pity Pakistani nation who believes this kufars puppet media without question .the day dajal will come this poor nation will obey him also without question ,as this nation is not a martial race,they obey whoever has gun ,power or food..this nation cant go against the tide or direction of wind,it flows wherever tide or wind takes them....that's why Allah chose other people than us to take task for islam at end times,.we were not chosen.Allah always chose those people for service of his deen who are brave enough to walk against the common misguided cultural beliefs,people who walk against the direction of wind!the people who are brave enough to swim against the tide
 

drkjke

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
also this term "pakistani" taliban and "afghani" taliban is created by our media...in tribal areas etc taliban are called mujahideen of islamic emirate...they dont believe in differentiation between nations.islam is against nationalism.islam only believes in one classification .muslim and non muslim.diffferntiation on bases of ethnicity and nationalism is against islam,according to islam whoever believes in nationalism is no more muslim.all muslims are one and humanity is divided in just two groups.hizbulah(those who follow Allah) and hizbul shaitan(those who follow satan)...no other differentiation is seen in quran among humanity
 

salmakh84

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Main page updated with more information :)

I hope it's enough to open the eyes of "Good" and "Bad". lols
 

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