So what is the SOLUTION to the crisis in Pakistan?

[Guest]

The US presence is the cause of the Terror in Pakistan, there was no Terror in Pakistan before the Americans came, this is identical to IRAQ under Sadaam Hussain there were no suicide blasts and no Mosques were bombed even though Sadaam was so brutal, but then the Americans came and the bombs exploding at mosques and secretarian violence started. This is the American plan, just as they have done it in Iraq.
I have one question people use the mosques to pray to Allah(swt) they are normally the elder generation, and who are not really that political, so why would you want to target these people, what would you gain, they become martyrs and the killer goes to Jahannam. But if we say it was the Americans who are making it look like a suicide attack, what do they gain? the population against the so called Taliban, and there you have it a manufactured reason for the Pakistani Army to fight in Waziristan, to fight the American war.

What is the solution?
Muslim fighting Muslims is Haram and this Fitnah must be stopped.

Both military rule and democratic rule has brought corrupt leaders who are more intersted in serving themselves and America. Pakistan is facing unprecednted internal crisis , which is the same fate as Iraq, Pakistan needs a new leadership.
Only an Islamic leader will have the ability to speak to the whole country, will have legitmacy to all tribes and factions, Punjabis, Pathans, Baluchis, etc because he will speak from Islam.

"And hold together to the rope of Allah and be not divided" [Surah Imran 3-103]

Only an Islamic government (Khilafah) can bring into office an islamic leader who has a track record of struggle against America and the west, a man who will look after the country with the fear of Allah and not the the fear of America in his HEART.

Jazakallah.

 

[Saladin A]

Islamic socio economic, political, judicial, financial, monetary, educational, science, and religious 'Nizam' based on absolute justice, fairness, equality and scientific progress.

We are instructed in the Quran not to veer to extremes but adhere to ummatum wassatun (middle path) and refrain from excess of any kind and 99.99% earnestly strive to attain this middle ground, which is the most fertile ground in which to practice our Deen as Allah intended for us: an Islam of peace, compassion, mercy, tolerance and justice for all.. Magnanimity is very much admired by Muslims and it is considered a sin if we ill-treat or harm an enemy at our mercy; it is our religious and moral duty to protect him from all harms. In Islamic civilization and rules, Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians, Hindus and other people of various beliefs enjoyed religious freedom and equal rights. This reflected the teachings of the Quran, which is pluralistic scripture and affirmation of others traditions.

 

[AKBER BADSHAH]

aik kuddar ,bahadar,nadar leader ki zarorat hai.

 

[famamdani]

You must show littel bit moral and do own plan with out Usa and save our nation with self made policy this is first step ..................................

 

[contra]

khilafah bhai,

1. Al Qaeda is responsible for suicide attacks, not America.
If Saddam Hussain cared for the people of Iraq, he should have taken the deal and left Iraq, but instead he chose to fight a guerrilla war and hide.

This gave a chance to the evil Al Qaeda to carry out mass killings of innocent civilians.

Similarly, if Taliban cared for the Afghan people, they should have handed over Osama and gang, to America. But they chose not to.
More muslims have been killed by Al Qaeda than by the Americans.

2. Coming to Pakistan:
No offence intended, but, i think people of Pakistan should seriously consider Buddhism as an alternative to I****, this is a major long term solution to Pakistan's problems.

 

[Guest]

Contra very weak statement, Bhudaism , Dai Lai Lama etc, have all had problems where the rulers have exploited there power and killed and murdered there own greed.

Your analysis if you can call it that was incorrect , America have killed more muslims than alqaidah that is in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, and Bosnia where they failed to protect 8,000 muslims, also the American Military have killed and murdered non-muslims across Guatamala, Panama, Nicaragua, San Salvador, Cogo, Rawanda, and in the past Japan(Hiroshima/Nagasaki), Korea, and the famous Vietnam.

So the list is endless, being a Bhudist will not protect you from agression also if you mean that the whole world should become bhudist than this is quite laughable as it will never happen. Also there are many problems in India regarding this issue as the minorities are not protected by the present government in India and that includes the Bhudist.

Also if you look at Saladins excelent response, he mentions a tried and tested system where non-muslims were allowed to practice there own religion and customs and were protected by the Islamic state, if you look into history it shows how the non-muslims actually fought with the muslims against the invaders.

This Islamic System is the only system that can unite non-muslims with muslims , black and white, rich and poor, look into my friend look at the Social system, Economic System, Judicial System, Political System.

 

[taul]

No offence intended, but, i think people of Pakistan should seriously consider Buddhism as an alternative to I****, this is a major long term solution to Pakistan's problems.

---People are embracing the truth (Islam) all over the globe and you stand here with your follies :) .btw you can always advice your good old buddies Israelis/Zionists :D see how does it go with em?Afterall they have been the bone of contention and a source of all the evils emanating :evil:

 

[zia]

Follow Quran Karim and Sunnah That is the only solution

 

[contra]

khilafa bhai,
1. The problem with people like you is that whenever someone points a flaw in the Islamic system that is being followed by Islamic countries, you say, well hey...these countries are not following true Islam or not following correct Sharia law....
Sharia law as written in the Quran is being followed by them.
The founder of your religion, Mr. Mohammad said that the punishment for apostasy is death, and this is the case in Saudi Arabia. Which many people on this site support!

2. The Osmania khalifate: the title of Khalifah was being passed on from father to son, wasn't it? But when it comes to Saudi Arabia you say well hey....they are not the true model of an Islamic state.

3. The confidence with which you say that every system of governance has failed and only the Khalifah can "save" you is just laughable.

The problem is that you are calling for a system which depends on the goodness and honesty of people, especially, the person at the top, the person who will have absolute power...This my friend is a recipe of disaster. You need a system which has checks and balances built into it.

4. God fearing....who will decide whether that person is God fearing?

5. You have written that muslim fighting muslim is haram and should be stopped...
How will you stop this? What motivates the Taliban to fight the Paksitani Army and carry out suicide bombings targeting women and children?......Religion motivates them. They know they are going to heaven where 72 virgins are waiting for them.

6. You have given example of America killing people...
Do you know how many people have been killed in the name of Islam?
In Pakistan, terrorist violence and killings were happening before the American liberation of Afghanistan.
Shia-Sunni violence is a prime example.

Al Qaeda is responsible for the suicide bombings my friend, in Iraq and in Afghanistan.
When the Afghans were fighting the Soviets, no suicide attacks were carried out, correct?

7. Another thing, i don't know from where you have reached this conclusion that non muslims were living in peace under the khalifa and islamic rule????
Ever heard of Jizya, ever heard of Dhimmi? Ever heard of the pogroms that were carried out against the Jews? Ever heard of Somnath Temple?

8. You need to come out of your dream world...

 

[taul]

@ contra



---I believe we have all given reply to this so many times yet you stay blank and filled with hate,well that's fine you can hate as much as you like and be on the deaf mode for as long as you may wish but reality will NOT change a bit :) ...You will not understand any thing about Islam coz you are filled with illogical perceptions..You think simply by your perversions and incompetence any muslim will try to appease you,NO!!


--It's simple, laws are perfect and flawless only your trivial and limited mind is unable to get to the depth of it..If people like you saw an amputation going on they may scream and go berserk but in reality the surgeon is saving that patient's life by getting rid of a gangrenous limb which if not cut may lead to his death..and that seemingly cruel and barbaric act is infact curative.




---Capital Punishments are the backbone of Abrahamic faiths and you like picking only Islam of reasons understood (your hate and incompetence)...Are you scared if you dug in li'l bit deep into the severity of Punishments in Christianity and Judaism you may offend your Israeli/Zionists friends :o here are some Old Testament verses

Leviticus
24.16 And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him. As well the stranger as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the LORD, shall be put to death.

Deuteronomy
12.6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend who is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, `Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou nor thy fathers

12.7 (namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth),

12.8 thou shalt not consent unto him nor hearken unto him, neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him;

12.9 but thou shalt surely kill him. Thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.



---Divine laws are to be followed as is and they have inspired the Capital punishments through out the world the punishment of treason is death,by hanging culprits to death which dubious people like you fail to understand the logic behind em and how they were brought..



--You are grown enough to perceive this simple notion, the reason talibans are fighting against Pakistan army is obvious they are being pinned down by them unjustly and are retaliating back.Pakistan army being pushed to do all this by the americans :evil:Not to mention their fight against the american and nato troops who have illegally occupied their country and they are fighting against occupiers..

--This is where khilafa comes in when NO muslim country would align themselves with any Non-muslim country just to appease them :ugeek:..This should explain to you why Saudi arabia is considered not being a true Islamic model when their kings blindly follow and form alliance with america and give a blind eye to the atrocities being carried out in the Muslim world even though they may apply some of the Islamic Punishments..i hope this should put some of your demons to rest. :D

 

[Zaidi Qasim]

khilafah bhai,

1. Al Qaeda is responsible for suicide attacks, not America.
If Saddam Hussain cared for the people of Iraq, he should have taken the deal and left Iraq, but instead he chose to fight a guerrilla war and hide.

This gave a chance to the evil Al Qaeda to carry out mass killings of innocent civilians.

Similarly, if Taliban cared for the Afghan people, they should have handed over Osama and gang, to America. But they chose not to.
More muslims have been killed by Al Qaeda than by the Americans.

2. Coming to Pakistan:
No offence intended, but, i think people of Pakistan should seriously consider Buddhism as an alternative to I****, this is a major long term solution to Pakistan's problems.

Where you got this sickning statement regarding Suddam Hussain ? It is no wonder you will never learn to speak the truth since your ears are sealed with wax from the American washrooms. The big lie and American Fabrication to attack Iraq is an open book.The only people who have slice of prejudice dew in their eyes, can't seem to read it. I know that you are American friend and like to lick on their big fat asses, but to neglect the truth and spread the lie is criminal and most unfortunate.

 

[ftandan]

mr. khilafah. people of ur thoughts is really destroying muslim world.u should accept that islamic law or islamic rule is outdated phenomena. u can not rule modern socity by thousand year old method. america killed thousands of muslim & destroyed many muslim country . had muslim world able to done anything against america. reason.. u people have completly lack of modern tech & knowledge.for god sake get out the delusion of islam only than u can face the reality... called america.

 

[taul]

mr. khilafah. people of ur thoughts is really destroying muslim world.u should accept that islamic law or islamic rule is outdated phenomena. u can not rule modern socity by thousand year old method. america killed thousands of muslim & destroyed many muslim country . had muslim world able to done anything against america. reason.. u people have completly lack of modern tech & knowledge.for god sake get out the delusion of islam only than u can face the reality... called america.

---Islam is for every era and all times till the day of Judgement but only amateurs and incompetent souls rely on such absurd notions as written by you...Modern science is reasserting the Authenticity of The Holy Quran and is astonished to find the things which they discovered in recent years to have been in our Holy Quran all along :ugeek:


--You certainly aren't even aware of scientific developments that took off in an Islamic era,ever heard of Ibn Sina (Avicenna) who was known to be "doctor of doctors" and had served immensely in the field of Medicine.Does J?bir ibn Hayy?n ring any bell?he was renowned for his contributions in chemistry.The word "algebra" is named after the Arabic word "al-jabr" from the title of the book [al-Kit?b al-mu?ta?ar f? ?is?b al-?abr wa-l-muq?bala' , (The book of Summary Concerning Calculating by Transposition and Reduction), a book written by the Muslim mathematician, Muhammad ibn M?s? al-Khw?rizm? in 820,Al-Khwarizmi is considered by many to be the "father of algebra" because some of his techniques on solving quadratic equations are still in use today.I believe you are completely ignorant of the medieval era period as well :roll:

 

[ftandan]

by quoting one or two example u can not endorse anything. but if islam is so powerfull than why r muslim suffring so much.i don't know. if u people won't change ur attitude than it lookslike ur judgement day is not too far

 

[taul]

by quoting one or two example u can not endorse anything. but if islam is so powerfull than why r muslim suffring so much.i don't know. if u people won't change ur attitude than it lookslike ur judgement day is not too far

--This clearly shows how completely ignorant you are and writing without using any logic whatsoever,these were simply couple of examples coz i know even this is too much for you :roll: Your basis of suffering again is quite ridiculous there are thousands of people suffering in your own india i.e via Maoists and by other militancies :| you are NOT making any sense but only commenting without thinking :oops:

 

[contra]

Where you got this sickning statement regarding Suddam Hussain ? It is no wonder you will never learn to speak the truth since your ears are sealed with wax from the American washrooms. The big lie and American Fabrication to attack Iraq is an open book.The only people who have slice of prejudice dew in their eyes, can't seem to read it. I know that you are American friend and like to lick on their big fat asses, but to neglect the truth and spread the lie is criminal and most unfortunate.

Zaidi Qasim bhai :) ,

1. You are right, WMD's in Iraq was a lie and this is accepted by all.

2. I am in no way saying that WMD's were present in Iraq.
My point is that Mr. Saddam Hussain should have left Iraq, instead of waging a guerrilla against the Americans, because,
This gave a window to Al Qaeda to kill innocent civilians, to cause sectarian violence etc.

3. Had he left Iraq in a civilised manner, and allowed the civic services like Police etc. to continue, the many suicide bombings by the Al Qaeda thugs could have been prevented.

But no, he was a dictator, he cared only for himself...He was going "down", and he made the people of Iraq suffer too... :evil:

 

[mowlajaat]

Pakistan suffers due to mullaa's little terror factories and wrong teachings of Islam. Westerns nations are well aware of this, they exploit us like banning minartes etc. by doing so, they are scheming to have Muslims react violently, and when that happens they say o look how Islam is violent etc.however, on the other hand we have the mullaathat knows nothing about Islam and incubates militancy vs. actually respond to such acts with the correct teachings of Islam and fight the battle with knowledge and the information.

 

[taul]

This gave a window to Al Qaeda to kill innocent civilians, to cause sectarian violence etc.

3. Had he left Iraq in a civilised manner, and allowed the civic services like Police etc. to continue, the many suicide bombings by the Al Qaeda thugs could have been prevented.

---Admitting a guilt and fault and then overturning it the very next statement :o this is you did...No one was dying prior to Unjust and bogus 'n' illegal occupation of Iraq that was merely carried out under WMD pretext :evil: :evil: it was the main reason for all chaos...And to this day more Iraqi civilians have died by the occupying forces than any body else (same goes for Afghanistan) and then they start negotiating with the local people to save their own lives by yet again promoting and instigating secretarian violence and after that you expect calm to prevail in any society,how retarded and pathetic :roll: you can NOT even put 2 'n' 2 together :oops:

 

[mowlajaat]

SHUT DOWN THE MADRASSAS AND ARREST ALL THE MULLAA.....

 

[taul]

SHUT DOWN THE MADRASSAS AND ARREST ALL THE MULLAA.....

--Was Iraq invaded coz of any Madrassa :roll: ?Get your priorities right!!this is just like a chris angel illusion shown to us and people keep falling for it..Always get to the root of a problem rather than being content on symptomatic alleviation..