SC asked to stop media criticism of army

Bilal_Mushi

Minister (2k+ posts)
SC asked to stop media criticism of army

By Our Staff Reporter | From the Newspaper


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The petition was filed in the Supreme Court by a lawyer who briefly served as deputy attorney general.—File photo



ISLAMABAD: A lawyer who briefly served as deputy attorney general during the Musharraf government filed a petition in the Supreme Court on Thursday seeking an order restraining the media from criticising the armed forces, intelligence agencies and other security and defence institutions.

Advocate Sardar Muhammad Ghazi said the media should be restrained from levelling baseless and unverified allegations against these institutions so that their work did not suffer in any manner.

The petition, drafted by Advocate Raja Muhamamd Ibrahim Satti, also requested the court to lay down guidelines to protect institutions from mala fide and baseless allegations and criticism.

The respondents named in the petition are the federal government through the information ministry, Pemra, analyst and anchorperson Najam Sethi, Capital Talk`s host Hamid Mir, Geo TV Network, publisher/editor of Daily Express Tribune, Islamabad, and Ejaz Haider who recently wrote an open letter to ISI chief General Shuja Pasha.

http://www.dawn.com/2011/06/24/sc-asked-to-stop-media-criticism-of-army.html
 
وہ جو اپنی نااھلی پر انگلی اٹھانے والوں کو روکنا چاھیں تو ان پر ھر طرف سے انگلیاں اٹھیں گی۔ وہ زمانہ اور تھا یہ زمانہ اور ھے۔ یہ 90 ھزار دشمن کے آگے پتلونیں اتارنا گوارہ کر سکتے ھیں لیکن اپنے عوام کو پاوں کی جوتی کی نوک پر رکھتے ھیں۔ پاکستان کے قانون کو اپنے بوٹوں کے نیچے روندتے ھوئے پاکستان پر قبضہ کرنے والے اگر اتنے بہادر ھیں تو احتساب کے کٹہرے میں آئیں۔
حیرت ھے اسی عدالت میں گئے ھیں جس عدالت نے ان کے کمانڈو گیدڑ کو اشتہاری مفرور قرار دیا ھے۔ اس پر ان کی غیرت نہی جاگی۔
 

habib22

MPA (400+ posts)
My friend, if you need help from ASMA JHANGEER and type of Characterless women to criticize ARMY then public will take side of ARMY, this was a good chance and i agree with you , we could get rid of corrupt generals, but as soon this Bi****ch came in seen and start criticize Army on the instruction of her Foreign masters and keeper like Zardari then she destroyed all the issues , bcoz she never let go any chance to go against ISLAM, and Pakistan previously, including but not limit to Bills against Islamic laws , and giving aid and helping to those who insulted our great Prophet .
 

FaisalKh

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
وہ جو اپنی نااھلی پر انگلی اٹھانے والوں کو روکنا چاھیں تو ان پر ھر طرف سے انگلیاں اٹھیں گی۔ وہ زمانہ اور تھا یہ زمانہ اور ھے۔ یہ 90 ھزار دشمن کے آگے پتلونیں اتارنا گوارہ کر سکتے ھیں لیکن اپنے عوام کو پاوں کی جوتی کی نوک پر رکھتے ھیں۔ پاکستان کے قانون کو اپنے بوٹوں کے نیچے روندتے ھوئے پاکستان پر قبضہ کرنے والے اگر اتنے بہادر ھیں تو احتساب کے کٹہرے میں آئیں۔
حیرت ھے اسی عدالت میں گئے ھیں جس عدالت نے ان کے کمانڈو گیدڑ کو اشتہاری مفرور قرار دیا ھے۔ اس پر ان کی غیرت نہی جاگی۔

Wo commando jab tha to us ne aik corrupt govt ko kick out kiya tha Pakistan se aur us kay ronay ki video saari duniya ne dekhi thiii aur jab wo siasat mai aaya tab bagora ban gaya aur bhagna para... wahi ronay walay raaton ko chup chup kar Army se miltay hain kyon ke sharam to wese bhi in mai nahi... agar Kargill war per apnay hi fojiyon ka khoon bachnay walay jab america mai clinton kay paon per wajpaae ke samnay naak ragar saktay hain aur apnay hi logon ko bech saktay hain aur aaj kal beri lambi lambi haank rahe hain current govt ke khilaaf aur pas o pesh pimp ban kar kim barker ki dosti zardari se karana chahtay hain to us ki party ko support karnay walay us army ke khilaaf kyon nahi keh saktay jis ka laga hua zakham ye abhi tak chaaat rahe hain... Taras aata hai aisay logon per...

Manjaanib: Ahtisaab wing of PML (Traitor) Party....
 
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FaisalLatif

Councller (250+ posts)
Habib Jalib said it better than anyone else. In one of his poem, he talks about the army and says (it was the time when east pakistan became bangladesh and people like Jalib were protesting against the dictatorship of Yahya Khan).

سرحدوں کی تو نا پاسبانی کی
داد ہم سے ہی لی جوانی کی

This case can never be won as it would mean that (God forbids) any future dictator can use this to silence media. If it wasn't for the media pressure, there would have been no commission on OBL death or Saleem Shehzad's Murder, or army facing questions from the parliament. I hope supreme court rejects this.

Would you say that this should have been true for Musharraf, Zia, Yahya or Ayub? They represented the army didn't they? Are they above criticism too?

We shouldn't be hypocrites and pick and choose generals we are allowed to criticize.

No institution is beyond criticism, accountability and scrutiny. These things have never harmed an institution, on the contrary, it has made it more effective and efficient.

Only Allah, His Prophets and Angels and his divine books are beyond criticism, no one else has the right to claim this immunity.
 
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change

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Criticism on an institution is associated with its performance. If the performance of an institution is good, people will appreciate and support it but if the performance of the institution is poor, i dont think that any sensable person will dare to support it.

Take the example of Pakistan cricket team; what we do, when our team performs good we support and appreciate them and when they give poor performance we criticise them. When we criticise them its mean we criticise their performance, criticising their performance means to point out defects in their performance and mistakes they made. Our criticism reaches to the players through media. And it gives them a chance to fix their mistakes and improve their performance. A good player will always consider fair criticism and try to improve his performance but a bad player will not give a damn to it and take it as a 'mater of ego and pride'. This is the case with Pak Army and ISI. Instead of learning from mistakes and improving their performance, Army has made it a 'mater of ego and pride' so the army has become a 'bad player' that never learns from mistakes rather 're-enforce the failure'.

Do we have any right to criticise Pak-Army?

Yes; first; freedom of speech is our fundamental right guaranteed by the Constitution of Pakistan; second; we the people of Pakistan are 'stakeholders' in Pak Army; [a 'stakeholder' is one who even have a minor 'interest' either 'commercial or moral' in any 'body' or 'institution'] army receives a large chunck of our budget every year; we the taxpayers of Pakistan pay for their salaries and other incentives; thus we have every right to question their performance and held them accountable for what they do.

Those who support the arguments that 'there must not be any criticism on Army and ISI': Please Answer the following questions:

1. Quote ONE SINGLE example from 2001 till 2011 where Army & ISI protected national interests of Pakistan.
[Remember flood relief work, meter reading, and sensus services by army do not fall within the definition of 'national interest' and it is not their job anyway]


2. Quote ONE SINGLE example where any General was ever punished for violation of Constitution of Pakistan.

So when the performance of Army is so poor; the criticism is natural. Media is doing its job; if army as a 'bad-player' cannot face the truth and fix its mistakes, it cannot 'block' the truth.
 
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johny

MPA (400+ posts)
A very sad decision by the SCourt. mean if foreigen army attacks us we are not supposed to show how we feel. If aour army jenrals take orders from other country's representatives we are not allowed to speakup. when our secrity forces kill us, unarmed in front of camera we are not supposed to cry. and when someone come with the arms and our forces cant protect there head quarter and there critical base and the invaders hit there target and runaway.......and our navy cheif gives a stupid speach for explaination we should appreciate it....

It hurts......
 

Bilal_Mushi

Minister (2k+ posts)
Oh Bhai what decision by SCP???? Just a petition is being filed. Nawaz Shareef Fauj kay baad ab SCP ko bhi badnaam karay ga kiya?



A very sad decision by the SCourt. mean if foreigen army attacks us we are not supposed to show how we feel. If aour army jenrals take orders from other country's representatives we are not allowed to speakup. when our secrity forces kill us, unarmed in front of camera we are not supposed to cry. and when someone come with the arms and our forces cant protect there head quarter and there critical base and the invaders hit there target and runaway.......and our navy cheif gives a stupid speach for explaination we should appreciate it....

It hurts......