Saudi cleric claims Earth is stationary, does not revolve around Sun

Chachu

MPA (400+ posts)
Saudi cleric claims Earth is stationary, does not revolve around Sun



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If a plane stops still in the air, China would be coming towards Earth, says cleric . PHOTO: ALARABIYA NEWS

A Saudi cleric in a recent video rejected the theory that the Earth revolves around the Sun and claimed that the opposite is true, Al Arabia News reported.

His statements sparked a wave of social media remarks across the globe.

When a student questioned him about whether the Earth was stationary or moving, Sheikh Bandar al-Khaibari responded with “stationary and does not move.”
To support his theory, Khaibari quoted some clerics and chose to present some religious statements. He then used some visuals to further strengthen his argument.

Holding up a sealed water cup, he questioned “First of all, where are we now? We go to Sharjah airport to travel to China by plane, clear? Focus with me, this is Earth,” he said pointing at the sealed cup.

He then argued that if a plane stops still in the air, “China would be coming towards it in case the Earth rotates in one direction. If the Earth rotates in the opposite direction, the plane would never reach China, because China is also rotating,” he explained.

A wave of controversial remarks flooded social media, following the clerics video, so much so that a new hashtag began trending on Twitter: #cleric_rejects_rotation_of_Earth

Several Twitter users ridiculed the cleric for this notion.

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Atif

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

کمال ہے یار ، اس صدی میں بھی ایسے احمق ہیں۔

مولوی کوچاہیے تھا کہ آیات کی تفسیر بتا کر ثواب کماتا۔
خوامخواہ سائنس میں انگلی کرنا چاہ رہا ہے
 

Lil'Genius

Minister (2k+ posts)


نہیں یہ گلوبل سکالرز میں آتا ہے۔
آپکو اِسکے گلوبل عِلم سے پتا نہیں چلا؟

Personally, I think after this amazing scientific discovery, he may become first Saudi molvi to get noble peace prize or something similar.
 
Science of Mullahs


The Earth is Stationary

Click here to download this article as a pdfAccording to the western world, the sun is the stationary centre of the universe and the earth revolves on its own axis as well as around the sun. Insha Allah hereunder you will find proof from the Holy Quran that the earth is in fact stationary and the sun revolves around in an orbit. It is therefore incumbent on us to believe what the Holy Quran teaches us and to reject the western school of thought.Allah Taala states in the Holy Quran, And the sun moves on a prescribed course. This is the Commandment of the Most Honourable, the Most Knowing.[Surah 36, Verse 38]This tells us that the heavens and the earth are anchored and the stars are floating in them. The movement of the sun is until its appointed time i.e. until the Day of Judgment. [Tafseer Noorul Irfaan]Allah Taala further states, The sun is not permitted to overtake the moon, nor can the night overtake the day. And each is floating in an orbit. [Surah 36, Verse 40]The first part of the verse means that the sun cannot rise at night to take away the light of the moon. Also, it cannot move swiftly like the moon; therefore the stages which the moon completes in twenty-eight days are completed by the sun in one year. If the sun were as swift as the moon then the seasons would not be formed correctly. The last part of the verse tells us that the orbit of each planet is different and that the stars are floating in such a way like the fish in the sea. But the sky itself is stationary. [Tafseer Noorul Irfaan]In another verse it is stated, The sun and the moon have been set proportionately. [Surah 55, Verse 5]This refers to the speed of the moon and the sun, which is determined by Allah Taala. The speed with which they complete the heavenly stages helps man to determine the solar and lunar months of the year. [Tafseer Noorul Irfaan]The Glorious Quran further tells us, And He made the sun and moon subservient for you which are constantly moving, and made the day and night subservient for you. [Surah 14, Verse 33]The sun and the moon are constant without any breakage in them, nor do they take any leave for the purpose of resting. They serve us in such a manner that they would never become tired or ever be off duty. They are in constant movement for millions of years so that we can determine our time for work and rest and derive countless benefits from them. [Tafseer Noorul Irfaan]In proving the static nature of the earth, the Holy Quran says, Undoubtedly, Allah upholds the heavens and the earth lest they deviate. [Surah 35, Verse 41]This tells us that neither the earth nor the sky is in motion. Only the stars, the moon and the sun are in motion. Thus even the ancient philosophy, which advocated the movement of the sky, is false, as well as the modern philosophy which accepts that the earth moves on its own axis. [Tafseer Noorul Irfaan]Besides the above verses, there are numerous other verses of the Holy Quran that prove that the earth is stationary and the sun is in rotation. Some of these verses are quoted hereunder:

  • And made the sun and the moon subservient. Each one runs to a term stated. Allah plans every affair and explains clearly the signs so that you may believe the meeting with your Lord. [Surah 13, Verse 2]
  • And He made the sun and moon and stars subservient to His command. [Surah 7, Verse 54]
  • And He made the day and the night, the sun and the moon subservient to you. And the stars are subservient by His command. Verily, in it there are signs for the wise people. [Surah 16, Verse 12]
  • And it is He Who created the night and the day and the sun and the moon. Each one is floating in a circumference. [Surah 21, Verse 33]
  • O listener! Did you not see that Allah turns night into the day and returns the day in the night and He makes the sun and the moon serve you? Each one pursues the course till an appointed term, and Allah is aware of your deeds. [Surah 31, Verse 29]
  • And He engages the services of the sun and the moon that each one runs up to an appointed time. This is Allah, your Lord. His is the Kingdom of the entire universe. [Surah 35, Verse 13]
  • And He has employed the sun and the moon into service. Each moves on its course to an appointed time. Do you hear? He is the Most Exalted in Power, the Most Forgiving. [Surah 39, Verse 5]
If someone insists on defending the western way of thought, then the following verse should suffice in answering them, Does He not know, Who created? And He is the Knower of the minutest, being Well Aware. [Surah 67, Verse 14]Therefore it is a clear denial and rejection of the Quranic verses to accept the sun as the static centre and the earth revolving around it.Ala Hazrat Imam Ahle Sunnat Imam Ahmad Raza Khan (Radiallahu Taala Anh) has explained the Islamic theory (based on Quran and Hadith) that the earth is static. In favour of this Ala Hazrat (Radiallahu Taala Anh) wrote the following treatises:
  1. Nuzool-e-Ayat-e-Furqan Besukoon-e-Zameen-o-Aasman
  2. Mueen-e-Mubeen Bahar Daur-e-Shams-o-Sukoon-e-Zameen
  3. Fauz-e-Mubeen Dar Radd-e-Harkat-e-Zameen
In his first treatise, Ala Hazrat (Radiallahu Taala Anh) has discussed the earth theory in light of the Quran and Hadith that the earth and sky are static, by quoting several verses from the Holy Quran. In his second treatise, Ala Hazrat (Radiallahu Taala Anh) has elaborated that the sun is in motion while earth is static based on astronomical observations and calculations. In his treatise Fauz-e-Mubeen Ala Hazrat (Radiallahu Taala Anh) has not only proved that earth is static with 105 argumentations in light of modern physics, but also criticized the ideas of renowned scientists like Galileo, Kepler, Newton and Albert Einstein. In Fauz-e-Mubeen Ala Hazrat (Radiallahu Taala Anh) has discussed various scientific spheres of knowledge including Physics, Chemistry, Geology, Astronomy, Astrology, Mathematics, and covered the topics of planetary motion in the orbits and physical mechanics like attractive and repulsive forces, centripetal force, centrifugal force, friction coefficient, projectile motion, relative velocity, circular speed, buoyant force, density & pressure, structure of earth, theory of tides and distance from the sun, along with dozens of geometric diagram representations with algebraic, logarithmic and mathematical calculations. Subhaanallah! If this is the knowledge of the slave of Rasoolullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam), then what must be the knowledge of the Beloved Rasool (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) himself?Hereunder is an extract from the book Fauz-e-Mubeen to show us that not only does the Holy Quran disprove the western school of thought, but Ala Hazrat (Radiallahu Taala Anh) has also scientifically proven (with extensive calculations, explanations and proofs) that the earth is stationary and the sun revolves around in an orbit. In his explanation, Ala Hazrat (Radiallahu Taala Anh) uses the assumption of the earths rotation to show the west how absurd a theory it is.Two birds fly from a branch of a tree with equal speed to that of the earths rotation which is 1036 mph and one flies to the east and the other to the west. The one flying to the west will reach a distance of 2072 miles because as much as it went to the west, this branch went to the east due to the earths rotation. And the one going to the east will not move a hairs length from the branch because as he is flying with the same speed the branch of the tree too, is going along with it. But we practically observe that both of them have equal speed going opposite to each other, and go to the same distance. If their speed of flying is less than that of the earth, for example 1035 mph, then the west-bound one will reach a distance of 2071 miles to the west. And its opponent, the east bound having toiled for an hour and having traversed 1035 miles will find itself only a mile away from the branch of that tree and that too, to its west. Isnt it awkward that he just flew to the east direction and found himself to the west of the place? All this is absurd, false and contrary to observation.This is just a small segment of one of the simpler arguments put forward by Ala Hazrat (Radiallahu Taala Anh). In fact he even went on to refute, with numerous proofs, the assumption of scientists that the atmosphere also rotates with the earth, i.e. the bird will also move together with the branch due to the earths motion. However, it is too complicated to discuss here.We can therefore see that without doubt the earth is stationary. It does not rotate on its axis nor does it rotate around the sun. It is the sun, moon and stars that rotate in orbits and it is obligatory on us to believe in this, since refutation of even a single verse of the Holy Quran throws us out of the fold of Islam.May Allah Taala grant us the Taufeeq and Hidayat to accept the truth and to reject the falsehood which the west is spreading throughout the world, Ameen.
http://raza-e-khushtar.org/articles/concerning-the-creation/the-earth-is-stationary
 

Lil'Genius

Minister (2k+ posts)
The moment I saw this Saudi molvi's noorani face, I knew it, he is great scholar, a man with knowledge of both deen and duniya. His explanation is simply amazing, as a Muslims, it is our duty to spread his words of wisdom on all mediums.
 
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oscar

Minister (2k+ posts)
اعلیٰ حضرت امام احمد رضا بریلوی تمام عمر زمین کو ساکن ثابت کرتے رہے اور اسکے ایک سو دلائل والی ایک کتاب بھی لکھ ماری۔ ان کے پیروکار ابھی تک اعلٰحضرت کے نیوٹن اور آئن سٹائن کے "کامیاب تعاقب" پر کتابیں لکھتے رہتے ہیں، یقین نہ آئے تو یہ لنک دیکھ لیں
http://www.alahazratnetwork.org/modules/worksonalahazrat/category.php?categoryid=4
 
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behzadji

Minister (2k+ posts)
He's right if it is possible to keep the main proposition of his argument that the plane becomes stationery then the earth should rotate down so that China will be passing under the plane in some time.

But the problem is it is almost impossible to remain static even outside in the space as the gravitational pull will cause everything to be pulled towards itself.

That's why they create artificial gravity in the space vehicles to avoid astronauts falling toward the gravitational pull. if this movement stops then everything will be pulled back by the gravitational pull.
 

sarbakaf

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Well he has right to express his opinion but if facts prove him wrong that does not mean he has done kuffar etc.
his understanding is different to others and he is wrong thats it ......
 

KAISD8

Citizen
asal masla ye hai k in naam nihad mullaon ne pehle taleem ko divide kia yani ye keh ker lakeer bana di k muslim k liye deen ki taleem hi kafi hai lhaza dunyawi taleem akhrat main kaam na aye gi.kaam deen ki taleem b na aye gi agar amal nahi.khair main mullaon se sirf ek baat poochta hoon k jab Quran ki pehli wahi nazal hoyee to pehla laft tha IQRA yani parh muje tamam mulla kia bata sakte hain k kia lafz IQRA se pehle kahain deen ka naam pehle ya baad main lya gaya? aur doosra ye k jab hazur pak(saw) ne farmaya k ilm hasil chahe tumain china hi kion jana pare to mera sawal ye hai k us waqt china main konsi islamic university thi ya islam koi naam or nishan b tha.kion hazur pak(saw) ne kabi taleem ko deen aur dunya ki taleem main divide nahi kia tha.
 

KAISD8

Citizen
ye saudi ullo ke pathe ek number k jahil aur aurton k aashiq hain.un k haan majority ran mareed hai aur baat kerte hain shariat ki un se koi ye to pooche k saudia ne aaj koi cheez ijaad b ki hai.
 

BrotherKantu

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
یار ھو سکتا ہے وہ کسی دفتر میں کلرک ھو . آخر سعودیا میں بھی تو دفتر ہوتے ہیں.
 

Believer12

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
سارے عالم کو رہتی دنیا تک کے علوم سکھانے والے سرور کائناتpbuh کی امت اور سرزمین میں ایسے ایسے نابغہ روزگار جاہل پیدا ہوں گے کبھی سوچا نہ تھا (cry)میں اس جہل کو دیسی طریقے سے سمجھاتا ہوں

ابے او سعودی کھوتے ادھر دیکھ ، نیچے دی گئی تصویر میں سورج کے گرد گھومنے والے سیاروں کو دیکھا جا سکتا ہے مرکز میں سورج ہے کیونکہ جسکے گرد چکر لگایا جاۓ اسکا سنٹر میں ہونا پہلی شرط ہوتی ہے
اگر تو تجربہ کرنا چاہے تو ایک کلے سے رسی باندھ کر گول گھوم باندر کی طرح سمجھ آجاۓ گی (ویسے ان سعودیوں کے ناموں کے ساتھ باندر کیوں لگتا ہے
(hmm)؟) سیاروں کا سورج کے گرد چکر کتنی مدت میں لگتا ہے وہ بھی معلوم شدہ ہے سورج کے اندر بہت طاقتور کشش ثقل ہے جسکی وجہ سے یہ سولر سسٹم میں نو سیارے سورج کے گرد گردش کرتے ہیں اور سورج سے دور نہیں جاسکتے ہاں سورج انکو واپس بھی نہیں کھنچ سکتا کیونکہ انکا فاصلہ سورج سے کافی زیادہ ہے اور کائنات کے دوسرے اجسام ان سیاروں کو باہر کی طرف کھینچ رہے ہیں گویا اس کھچا توی میں ہمارا بیلنس بنا ہوا ہے اور مدار میں مسلسل حرکت کرتے رہتے ہی


ابے او صومالی قزاق سن ہم سورج کا ہی ایک حصہ تھے جو ٹوٹ کر الگ ہوگیا تھا سورج ہم سے لاکھوں گنا بڑا ہے اسے زمین کے گرد گھومنے کی ضرورت نہیں کیونکہ اگر ایسا ہوتا تو ہم سورج کی جگہ پر اور سورج زمین کی جگہ پر ہوتا یعنی جسکے گرد گھوما جاۓ اسکا سنٹر میں ہونا ضروری ہوتا ہے لہذا سورج ہی سنٹر میں ہے اور زمین اسکے گرد چکر لگاتی ہے

پھر اگر تیری بات مان بھی لیں تو سوچ ذرا کہ سورج کا چکر کتنا بڑا ہوگا ، سائز دیکھ سورج کا سائز ابے او خچر اگر زمین ایک چکر تین سو پینسٹھ دن میں لگاتی ہے تو سورج جو لاکھوں گنا بڑا ہے وہ کتنی سو سال میں ایک چکر پورا کرے گا ، اتنی دیر ہم زمین والے اندھیرے میں پڑے برف کا گولہ بن جائیں گے ٹھنڈ سے اور تیری تو قلفی جم جاۓ گی بغیر تیلے کے

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Believer12

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

کمال ہے یار ، اس صدی میں بھی ایسے احمق ہیں۔

مولوی کوچاہیے تھا کہ آیات کی تفسیر بتا کر ثواب کماتا۔
خوامخواہ سائنس میں انگلی کرنا چاہ رہا ہے

آپ اسکو سائنس میں ہی چولیں مارنے دیں کیونکہ دنیاۓ سائنس میں اسکی کون سنے گا البتہ آیات کی تفسیر کرے گا تو دین کا کیا حشر ہوگا سوچا ہے آپ نے ؟
 

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