Saudi cleric claims Earth is stationary, does not revolve around Sun

[GreenMaple]

He deserves Nobel Prize for this 'discovery'.

 

[Raaz]

اعلیٰ حضرت امام احمد رضا بریلوی تمام عمر زمین کو ساکن ثابت کرتے رہے اور اسکے ایک سو دلائل والی ایک کتاب بھی لکھ ماری۔ ان کے پیروکار ابھی تک اعلٰحضرت کے نیوٹن اور آئن سٹائن کے "کامیاب تعاقب" پر کتابیں لکھتے رہتے ہیں، یقین نہ آئے تو یہ لنک دیکھ لیں
http://www.alahazratnetwork.org/modules/worksonalahazrat/category.php?categoryid=4

:lol:
بعد میں یہ بھی کہا ہو گا کہ یہ سب امریکہ کی سازش ہے کہ زمیں کو بھی گھما دیا ہے

آج کوئی سراج سے کوئی بات پوچھے تو وہ بھی یہی کہتا ہے ، امریکہ کی سازش

 

[awan4ever]

These are people who we have tasked with interpreting religion for us in this age of mindnumbing scientific discovery.
Is lecture kay baad ye bharwa apni mercedes slk mein beth ker apni teesri biwi ko naya iphone 6 plus gift kernay gya hoga. Science ke in eejadon say isko bilkul koi ikhtilaaf nahi hoga.

 

[HORUS]

He is inline with the Indian scientist who claims that ancient indians were expert in brain and plastic surgery and used to travel in space

 

[hassan.te]

this is the agha waqar of saudia

 

[Talwar Gujjar]

Re: Saudi Scholar Proved With Mullah-Logic Examples That Earth Does Not Revolve Itself

The question raised by Sheikh is interesting. If the earth is revolving, a plane stationed in the air over, say, Makkah should reach Beijing, China, after some hours.

 

[zeshaan]

Re: Saudi Scholar Proved With Mullah-Logic Examples That Earth Does Not Revolve Itself

سعودی تیل کی بر آمد نے پوری دنیا گھمائی ہوئی ہے اگر اس ملا کے فتوے پر جایں تو دنیا کو گھمانے والا کون بنتا ہے.......
الله ہی بہتر جانتا ہے کہ یہ ملا صحیح ہے یا؟

 

[deviliicious]

Re: Saudi Scholar Proved With Mullah-Logic Examples That Earth Does Not Revolve Itself

The question raised by Sheikh is interesting. If the earth is revolving, a plane stationed in the air over, say, Makkah should reach Beijing, China, after some hours.

An object on Earth's equator travels about 24,901 miles (40,075 km ) per day around the planet's circumference

Explanation please anyone, i would like to hear the answer too

 

[Babatank]

"(A time will come when) there will be nothing left of knowledge. People will make the ignorant their leaders and will seek guidance from them in matters of religion. These leaders will issue fatwas without any knowledge. They will themselves be misguided and will lead others astray." [Mishkat, Kitab ul-Ilm]

 

[thinking]

I could not see any one here to dismissed his logic with
scientific prof..i am not a scientist..but some one should
explain the questions which he raised with simple words..
If he is right..then what about those Muslims scientists who
highly educated in science..but could not raise this simple
questions..??? Ya tu ham sab dunia walay gadehy hain ya
phir ye Mullah...

 

[Ali raza babar]

اعلیٰ حضرت امام احمد رضا بریلوی تمام عمر زمین کو ساکن ثابت کرتے رہے اور اسکے ایک سو دلائل والی ایک کتاب بھی لکھ ماری۔ ان کے پیروکار ابھی تک اعلٰحضرت کے نیوٹن اور آئن سٹائن کے "کامیاب تعاقب" پر کتابیں لکھتے رہتے ہیں، یقین نہ آئے تو یہ لنک دیکھ لیں
http://www.alahazratnetwork.org/modules/worksonalahazrat/category.php?categoryid=4

aray bhai..... Khuda ko mano. Agar aik aam admi kay frame of reference ko daikho to zameen sakin hay. agar khala mein ja ker zameen ko jancho to mutaharik hay

 

[monh zorr]

سارے عالم کو رہتی دنیا تک کے علوم سکھانے والے سرور کائناتpbuh کی امت اور سرزمین میں ایسے ایسے نابغہ روزگار جاہل پیدا ہوں گے کبھی سوچا نہ تھا (cry)میں اس جہل کو دیسی طریقے سے سمجھاتا ہوں
ابے او سعودی کھوتے

ابے او صومالی قزاق سن
ابے او خچر


یار سمجھا رہے ہو یا کوئی دشمنی نکال رہے ہو،،
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[hairatkada]

Personally, I think after this amazing scientific discovery, he may become first Saudi molvi to get noble peace prize or something similar.

The moment I saw this Saudi molvi's noorani face, I knew it, he is great scholar, a man with knowledge of both deen and duniya. His explanation is simply amazing, as a Muslims, it is our duty to spread his words of wisdom on all mediums.

maulana sahib...

aik cheez hoti hay. usay kehtay hein frame of reference.

perh lain to masla hal ho jaye

اعلیٰ حضرت امام احمد رضا بریلوی تمام عمر زمین کو ساکن ثابت کرتے رہے اور اسکے ایک سو دلائل والی ایک کتاب بھی لکھ ماری۔ ان کے پیروکار ابھی تک اعلٰحضرت کے نیوٹن اور آئن سٹائن کے "کامیاب تعاقب" پر کتابیں لکھتے رہتے ہیں، یقین نہ آئے تو یہ لنک دیکھ لیں
http://www.alahazratnetwork.org/modules/worksonalahazrat/category.php?categoryid=4

He's right if it is possible to keep the main proposition of his argument that the plane becomes stationery then the earth should rotate down so that China will be passing under the plane in some time.

But the problem is it is almost impossible to remain static even outside in the space as the gravitational pull will cause everything to be pulled towards itself.

That's why they create artificial gravity in the space vehicles to avoid astronauts falling toward the gravitational pull. if this movement stops then everything will be pulled back by the gravitational pull.

....Lets see further ......development.............MEANWHILE not COMMENTING ANYTHING

i consider this molvi as islamic as albaghdadi

Well he has right to express his opinion but if facts prove him wrong that does not mean he has done kuffar etc.
his understanding is different to others and he is wrong thats it ......

asal masla ye hai k in naam nihad mullaon ne pehle taleem ko divide kia yani ye keh ker lakeer bana di k muslim k liye deen ki taleem hi kafi hai lhaza dunyawi taleem akhrat main kaam na aye gi.kaam deen ki taleem b na aye gi agar amal nahi.khair main mullaon se sirf ek baat poochta hoon k jab Quran ki pehli wahi nazal hoyee to pehla laft tha IQRA yani parh muje tamam mulla kia bata sakte hain k kia lafz IQRA se pehle kahain deen ka naam pehle ya baad main lya gaya? aur doosra ye k jab hazur pak(saw) ne farmaya k ilm hasil chahe tumain china hi kion jana pare to mera sawal ye hai k us waqt china main konsi islamic university thi ya islam koi naam or nishan b tha.kion hazur pak(saw) ne kabi taleem ko deen aur dunya ki taleem main divide nahi kia tha.

ye saudi ullo ke pathe ek number k jahil aur aurton k aashiq hain.un k haan majority ran mareed hai aur baat kerte hain shariat ki un se koi ye to pooche k saudia ne aaj koi cheez ijaad b ki hai.

This is an interesting scientific debate, and i will contribute my take on that as under ( Molana Sahab has raised an interesting question ) and i have built upon that. This is my personal theory based on scientific facts.

As per our current scientific knowledge the earth rotates on its axis and it rotates at a speed of 1670 kilometers/hour. This decreases by the cosine of your latitude so that at a latitude of 45 degrees, cos(45) = .707 and the speed is .707 x 1670 = 1180 kilometers/hr

Earth atmosphere has 5 distinct layers :

1. First there is the troposphere, which contains more than half of the overall atmosphere. Near the poles, it starts at the Earths surface and stretches more than 30,000 ft (9 km), and about 56,000 ft (17 km) at the Equator
   
   
   
2. The Second layer is the stratosphere ,it begins where the troposphere ends, extending above 31 miles (50 km) above that. This is where many airplanes fly, due to the stability of this layer.
   
   
   
3. Going onward up, there is the mesosphere the area in which meteors generally burn up
4. Just above the mesosphere is the thermosphere
5. Exosphere is the area where earth atmosphere ultimately merges with space. Space starts at 188 KM above the earth surface.

Keeping all the above in perspective, Lets say that a space craft reaches an altitude of 800 KM above the earth surface and is well outside the earths atmosphere. Now since the earth below is rotating, would the space craft be able to land in different places by just hovering above and making a straight vertical descent. This would eliminate all horizontal travel distance as done by the airplanes when traveling from one point to another. Once we are at 800 km above the earth surface, all that is needed is to wait for the appropriate time when as a result of rotation of the earth, your destination point passes right under you and you descent your space craft to your destination. Do you think that this could revolutionize travelling? Less fuel and less time by just taking advantage of the rotation of the earth?
I am also attaching a diagram to clarify my question. The Diagram shows the various layers of earth atmosphere. The Orange tube just shows the vertical descent I am talking about from Point A in outer space (say at 800 km above the surface of earth). The Yellow line is the Imaginary karman line at distance of 110 km which serves the boundary between the earths atmosphere and the region where the space begings.


Please comment if the idea is feasible and the areas where you see flaws in this theory. One possible argument that people can give in the opposition of the idea is :

Motion is relative and that the earths atmosphere rotates with the same velocity as the earth itself and therefore our spacecraft in question would also be in same motion as the atmosphere - Relative Motion Concept Please note that the relative motion concept would not apply in the case presented above because my assumption is that the space craft is no longer in earths atmosphere and is way beyond the karman line and cannot be considered as inside the earths atmosphere. The Space craft is 800 KM above the surface of the earth. Do you think that this idea of vertical travelling taking advantage of earths rotation is possible? Please comment. Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.

 

[oscar]

سورج ایک ستارہ ہے، اور وہ بھی گھومتا ہے، مگر ھماری کہکشاں کے مرکز کے گرد ۔ دراصل کہکشاؤں کے مرکز میں سورج سے لاکھوں گنا وزنی بلیک ہول ہوتے ہیں جن کے گرد اربوں ستارے گھومتے ہیں، بالکل اسی طرح جیسے سورج کے گرد اس کے سیارے گھومتے ہیں، یا سیاروں کے گرد ان کے چاند گھومتےہیں۔


یہ سب اجسام آخر کیوں گھومتے ہیں؟ جواب یہ ہے کہ ہماری کائنات اپنی پیدائش کے وقت سے مسلسل پھیل رہی ہے اور تمام اجرام فلکی سکون کی بجائے حرکت میں ہیں۔ ہر جسم کی بقدر جثہ گریویٹی ہوتی ہے اس لئے یہ ایک دوسرے کو کھینچتے ہیں، لیکن حرکت اور خلا کی وسعت کی وجہ سے یہ آپس میں ٹکرانے کی بجائے گھومتے ہیں۔


آپ نے لڑکیوں کو ککلی کا کھیل کھیلتے دیکھا ہوگا، بالکل اسی طرح اگر دو یا ذیادہ ستارے قریب آ جائیں تو دونوں ککلی کی مانند ایک دوسرے کے گرد گھومتے ہیں، اسے ٹوین سٹار سسٹم کہتے ہیں
اگر ککلی میں ایک لڑکی کا وزن دوسری سے کافی ذیادہ ہو، تو چھوٹی بیچاری بڑی کے گرد ہی گھومتی رہے گی، اسی طرح سیارے ستاروں سے بہت چھوٹے ہوتے ہیں اسلئے مجبوراً اپنے سورج کے گرد گھومتے ہیں اور سورج کی گردش برائے نام ہی رہتی ہے، جسے وابل کہتے ہیں۔ اسی خفیف وابل کو محسوس کر کے دور دراز ستاروں کے گرد سیارے ڈھونڈے جا سکتے ہیں۔


ایک اور بات بھی واضح کر دوں، کہ گردشی دائرے کا مدار سیارے یا ستارے کے وزن اور رفتار پر منحصر ہے۔ جیسے کسی الاسٹک سے پتھر باندھ کر گھمائیں، تو رفتار بڑھانے سے بڑا دائرہ بنے گا، اسی طرح بڑے پتھر سے اسی رفتار پر بڑا دائرہ بنے گا۔


یہ سب تو ہوگئی سیاروں اور سیاروں گی گردش، اس کے علاوہ محوری گردش (سپن) بھی ہوتی ہے، جیسا کہ کرکٹ میں سپن باؤلر بال کو سپن کرتا ہے، لیکن اس کی وجوہات اور اثرات مختلف ہیں۔
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[Ibrahim_186]

The moment I saw this Saudi molvi's noorani face, I knew it, he is great scholar, a man with knowledge of both deen and duniya. His explanation is simply amazing, as a Muslims, it is our duty to spread his words of wisdom on all mediums.[/QUOTEThis Mulla is supposed to be hang upside down for one week if he remain alive I hope some of his sense will restore.His thinking is nothing to do with Islam.

 

[Lil'Genius]

The moment I saw this Saudi molvi's noorani face, I knew it, he is great scholar, a man with knowledge of both deen and duniya. His explanation is simply amazing, as a Muslims, it is our duty to spread his words of wisdom on all mediums.[/QUOTEThis Mulla is supposed to be hang upside down for one week if he remain alive I hope some of his sense will restore.His thinking is nothing to do with Islam.

How dare you say against "Saudia" scholar ? You must be Qadiani aur CIA agent ; )