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Reason for Imran Khan's defeat ..???
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yasirmaliq
Senator (1k+ posts)
Imran Khan nein drone girane ki baat ki aur America nein Imran ko gira diya.
QaiserMirza
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
ہمارے ملک میں انتخابات صرف ایک ڈھونگ ہیں
ہم تو اپنے ملک میں ایک افسر کو تعینات کرنے کا اختیار نہیں رکھتے
ہر ایک کام کے لیے " بڑے بھیا " کی طرف دیکھتے ہیں
ہر لمحے ڈر لگا رہتا ہے کہ وہ ناراض نہ ہو جائے
اب بھی آئندہ کون کون کس کس کو وزارت ملنی ہے وہ طے شدہ ہے
اور ہم لکیر کو پیٹ رہے ہیں
ہم تو اپنے ملک میں ایک افسر کو تعینات کرنے کا اختیار نہیں رکھتے
ہر ایک کام کے لیے " بڑے بھیا " کی طرف دیکھتے ہیں
ہر لمحے ڈر لگا رہتا ہے کہ وہ ناراض نہ ہو جائے
اب بھی آئندہ کون کون کس کس کو وزارت ملنی ہے وہ طے شدہ ہے
اور ہم لکیر کو پیٹ رہے ہیں
swing
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
yaroo choor dou jaan isss behas ki jo hona thaa woh ho chuka hai aub gham na manao balkay majooda nizam mein kaha ,kaha tankay (repair) ho sakta hai uski tryiaan kero.
(65% se ziada logo ko yeh ghumaan thaa pehlay he kay dhandli honi hai per aub ro pito nahe apna ,apna positive roll adaa kero jaha ,jaha bhi ho.and keep advising accordingly to islam)
(65% se ziada logo ko yeh ghumaan thaa pehlay he kay dhandli honi hai per aub ro pito nahe apna ,apna positive roll adaa kero jaha ,jaha bhi ho.and keep advising accordingly to islam)
jangjoo786
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Rigging...........thats what happened.
v r imran k
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
v r imran k
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
imran khan ko chiay ainda kia kerna uss k liay javed ahshmi sb ko ath rakhian...kionkay in election mian jo electables pti kay wo saray jeet giay hian ...so hamay b ab realtic base per politcs ekrni ho gi ..shah mehmood qureshi jahngir khan areen in...han ijaz choudry ko sath rakhian.....jin ko siasyat ka pata nahi un ko side per rakhian hy kionkay mian sb massive rigging wala mandate lay ekr iay hian wo awam kay numianda nahi hian.....yay abt ow b janta hy ..issi liay uss kay chehray per hawiyan urri howi hian
بہت ہی بےغیرت ہو تم لوگ تمہارا سونامی باتھ روم میں آ گیا
اسلئے الزام تراشی کر رہے ہو بہرحال جھوٹ بولنا اور الزام لگانا تو
تمہاری پارٹی کا منشور ہے جہاں سے تحریک الزام جیتے وہاں سب ٹھیک
جہاں سے ہار گی وہاں دھاندلی منافقت کی بھی کوئی حد ہوتی ہے
تم لوگوں کی قسمت میں ہی رونا اور بھونکنا ہے اور یہی کام تم لوگوں کو آتا ہے
betterpakistan
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
IK lost 25-30 seats by rigging
IK failed to win support of un educated and labor class of Pakistanis. Who are engergized by solgans of metro bus, motorway, texi programs, government jobs, and minor stuff. They do not have vision or sense to understand IK geo polictican goals for long term improvement for Pakistan
IK failed by some of his people who have mis lead him. He should be seeking strong electables as well should had listed to old guys like hassan nazar, sheikh rasheed, harooon rasheed these folks have valid points.
IK also should do more to fight seats in Sindh province as that is the region where he can sneak in more, take our max seats from MQm and he will be in good position for next election
If next election IK do little better in punjab, gets same seats from KKp and then gets max seats from Karachi then he will be easily be in pistion to form colition goverment ...
IK failed to win support of un educated and labor class of Pakistanis. Who are engergized by solgans of metro bus, motorway, texi programs, government jobs, and minor stuff. They do not have vision or sense to understand IK geo polictican goals for long term improvement for Pakistan
IK failed by some of his people who have mis lead him. He should be seeking strong electables as well should had listed to old guys like hassan nazar, sheikh rasheed, harooon rasheed these folks have valid points.
IK also should do more to fight seats in Sindh province as that is the region where he can sneak in more, take our max seats from MQm and he will be in good position for next election
If next election IK do little better in punjab, gets same seats from KKp and then gets max seats from Karachi then he will be easily be in pistion to form colition goverment ...
Taimoor Khan
Banned
I don't want to sound genius or act like rats leaving the ship, and I am not either!...
Secondly, it may have been that the "time didn't come", and this nation needs five years more of chitrol. The message didn't reach the countryside in Punjab and Sindh, etc.
But the solid reasons which I think have contributed to PTI's less than expected performance - despite considering rigging on 20-25 seats, are:
- Wasted too much time on internal elections. Yes, internal elections were good, but they should have been competed within a much shorter time frame. The elections should have been completed 6-8 months before general elections and then this time should have been spent on strengthening organization and outreach, like big jalsas around the country and mass contact.
- Related to this, PTI didn't took needed steps because it was bogged down in internal elections, like protesting for overseas voters participation, tackling rigging through better presence on polling stations, launching a major campaign to include army in most polling stations of sensitive nature, etc.
- PTI's campaign should have consisted of 3-4 months of jalsas and mass contact. Tickets should have been announced much earlier. For a new emergent party like PTI, official days of campaign were not enough. Our campaign should have been launched unofficially months before elections.
I think that would have made the results a lot better, if not a big victory.
But again, all the above might have made very little because, if the 'time didn't come", as said. After all, PTI won in KPK, despite all the problems.
So I think criticizing after the event has taken place, is very easy. But we can learn from mistakes.
At any rate, PTI emerged as a second largest party out of no where. We expected too big, but in terms of conventional politics, this in itself is a victory.
Secondly, it may have been that the "time didn't come", and this nation needs five years more of chitrol. The message didn't reach the countryside in Punjab and Sindh, etc.
But the solid reasons which I think have contributed to PTI's less than expected performance - despite considering rigging on 20-25 seats, are:
- Wasted too much time on internal elections. Yes, internal elections were good, but they should have been competed within a much shorter time frame. The elections should have been completed 6-8 months before general elections and then this time should have been spent on strengthening organization and outreach, like big jalsas around the country and mass contact.
- Related to this, PTI didn't took needed steps because it was bogged down in internal elections, like protesting for overseas voters participation, tackling rigging through better presence on polling stations, launching a major campaign to include army in most polling stations of sensitive nature, etc.
- PTI's campaign should have consisted of 3-4 months of jalsas and mass contact. Tickets should have been announced much earlier. For a new emergent party like PTI, official days of campaign were not enough. Our campaign should have been launched unofficially months before elections.
I think that would have made the results a lot better, if not a big victory.
But again, all the above might have made very little because, if the 'time didn't come", as said. After all, PTI won in KPK, despite all the problems.
So I think criticizing after the event has taken place, is very easy. But we can learn from mistakes.
At any rate, PTI emerged as a second largest party out of no where. We expected too big, but in terms of conventional politics, this in itself is a victory.
maksyed
تم تو بہت ہی بڑے منافق ہو جھوٹا پراپوگنڈہ کرنے میں تمہارا کوئی ثانی نہیں
اگر الزام خان کو امریکا نے ہروایا ہے تو پھر مانو کہ سرحد میں بھی آپکو
امریکا نے جتوایا ہے جہاں جہاں سے جیتے ہو امریکا ہی نے جتوایا ہے
اگر امریکا آپکو ہروا سکتا ہے تو کیا جتوا نہیں سکتا تم جیسے جھوٹوں اور
بدتمیزوں کی وجہ سے ہی لوگوں نے آپکو ووٹ نہیں ڈالا ابھی بھی وقت ہے خوابوں
کی دنیا سے باہر آ جاؤ اور الله تعالیٰ کا شکر ادا کرو سرحد میں ایک مثالی اور
کورپشن سے پاک حکومت چلاؤ لوگوں کو کچھ کر کے دکھاؤ اگلی دفع بھی الیکشن
پاکستان کی سر زمین پر ہونا ہے فیس بک یا انٹرنیٹ پر نہیں
تم تو بہت ہی بڑے منافق ہو جھوٹا پراپوگنڈہ کرنے میں تمہارا کوئی ثانی نہیں
اگر الزام خان کو امریکا نے ہروایا ہے تو پھر مانو کہ سرحد میں بھی آپکو
امریکا نے جتوایا ہے جہاں جہاں سے جیتے ہو امریکا ہی نے جتوایا ہے
اگر امریکا آپکو ہروا سکتا ہے تو کیا جتوا نہیں سکتا تم جیسے جھوٹوں اور
بدتمیزوں کی وجہ سے ہی لوگوں نے آپکو ووٹ نہیں ڈالا ابھی بھی وقت ہے خوابوں
کی دنیا سے باہر آ جاؤ اور الله تعالیٰ کا شکر ادا کرو سرحد میں ایک مثالی اور
کورپشن سے پاک حکومت چلاؤ لوگوں کو کچھ کر کے دکھاؤ اگلی دفع بھی الیکشن
پاکستان کی سر زمین پر ہونا ہے فیس بک یا انٹرنیٹ پر نہیں
جس چیز کی شکایت تم، انصافیان سے کر رہے ہو، وہی خود کررہے ہو،،یعنی بدزبانی،، سوچو تو
chalo maan lete hen ke rigging nahi ki tum ne oor MQM ne Karachi me, rigging karnee waale bhi kia khub loog hen, PTI ko hamesha runners up rakha, yaani jahan jahan PTI haari wo wahan dusri bari force nazar arahi he, kher magar kitne din tak dhaandhli karo ge, Allah ne har cheez ka aik time rakha he, us ke har kaam me maslehat he, now coming to the point, Noora will be PM 3rd time inshallah, so now focus on key issues, first of all, showbaz ka promise to abhi se hi break kar dia, bijli ka crisis kab solve karo ge ? election se pehle to bari bari maar rahe thee, ab saare waade khatam oor koi time line nahi, putter ab bullet train chalane se pehle zara bijli ka crisis solve kar lena, just like Metro bus service, jahan escalators bijli ke na hone ki waja se band pare hen, agar bijli ka masla solve na kia gia to sab se pehle faislabadi aake tumhaari bund phaare ge, khaarkhaane band pare hen oor raat me machar, dekh lena, PM to aik gadha bhi ban sakta he, pehle bhi kitne gadhe aei, i am sure u know each and every PM position holders :)
BrotherKantu
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
PTI has lost because of PTI's opportunist leadership like Dr. Shereen Mazari.
And and wrong ticket distribution that IK has also accepted.
PTI did not invest its time to scientifically assess the candidates.
If the was a fair election, still PTI would have lost but could have bagged around 70 NA seats, 40 Punjab, and around 7 in Sindh Metro & Provincial.
I could not understood PTI roll in Bloachistan.
And and wrong ticket distribution that IK has also accepted.
PTI did not invest its time to scientifically assess the candidates.
If the was a fair election, still PTI would have lost but could have bagged around 70 NA seats, 40 Punjab, and around 7 in Sindh Metro & Provincial.
I could not understood PTI roll in Bloachistan.
Bugxx
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
PTI nay itni hi seats jeatni thy.sirf akeela imran khan bechara har jaga jaa k kaam karta raha h....hona to yeh chhye tha k tamam party leader apna apna ditrict sambhal lete.wahan tanzeem saazi karty.tabdeeli razakaron ko iktha aur mutahid karty.pher tamam tabdeeli razakaron ko choty choty villages,towns mein bhejti.1 ditrict ka tanzeemi leader baar baar poray district k tamam areas mein chakar lagata.aisa kuch bhi nahi..is tarah youth ka hosla barhta aur zyada say zyada logon ko PTI ko vote dalny k liye tayyar kartay.work kuch kiya nahi...sara kaam imran khan aur youth nay kia baqi saari top leadership amb leny gye hoye thy.
