RDA and Islamic Naya Pakistan Certificate.. Beware!!!!

expat_loyal

Councller (250+ posts)
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These days many Non-Resident Pakistanis are flocking to the Roshan Digital Account and specially the so called Islamic Naya Pakistan Certificate as they do not find any halal investment opportunity abroad. But before you do that be careful and read everything to be sure. Ask these questions if you attend any seminar or webinar.

1. How can government guarantee almost a fixed return which is first sign of Riba.as profit and loss sharing can never be fixed ask anyone who has done business.
2. Irrespective of the agreement of Sukuk or Ijarah or whatever you call them ask exactly where will your money be invested exactly and how the profit will be earned as government does not do any business and they are seeking the money for their budget deficit financing.

We have the right and duty to ask the question to make sure that the Islamic banks and shariah compliant mutual funds or stock market brokers are not giving the Islamic spin to the same old stuff done by conventional banks based clearly on Riba. Do not get confused but Terminologies such as Sukuk, Modarabah, Rab ul Maal, Murabaha etc. and always ask direct question before you put your halal earning to contaminate with Riba.

This is your duty and your heart will tell you what is right and what is wrong after full investigation into these matters.
 
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expat_loyal

Councller (250+ posts)
Many scholars argue that there is no such thing as "Islamic Banking". If so then what would be the status of Mufti Taqi Usmani?
Ask your heart and think logically. Then decide accordingly you will be responsible for your actions. That's my brotherly advice to all on this forum. As I think it is my duty to at least warn. And we are not talking about small issue it is Riba!!!
 
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Citizen X

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
So called Islamic banking is a sham, its the same thing as regular banking just with Islamic sounding, just people trying make money off peoples religious sentiments.

Loan sharking and they type of ridiculous interest rates they have is haram. I would also class credit cards into that category because you lag behind a couple of times in your payments then you spend half your life trying to pay them off.

Other than that IMO there is nothing haram in regular banking, loans, mortgages etc etc
 

Eyeaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Many scholars argue that there is no such thing as "Islamic Banking". If so then what would be the status of Mufti Taqi Usmani?
There can be difference of opinion in Fiqah jurisdiction. It is the very nature of fiqah - it an exposition or interpretation by a person which can vary. It is accepted by consensus or by an individual, however it is not binding . So stop worrying about something which least concerns and you have little knowledge or understanding about. If you disagree for any reason, simply do not follow it. However a law, based on fiqah or not, is by the state and has standing in itself.

In any case you are nobody to question the "status" of Mufti Taqi Usmani. Neither you are competent enough nor your opinions have any worth in any sense and matter.. Better worry about your own "status" .
 

expat_loyal

Councller (250+ posts)
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In any case you are nobody to question the "status" of Mufti Taqi Usmani. Neither you are competent enough nor your opinions have any worth in any sense and matter.. Better worry about your own "s
Agree, should not disrespect anyone. However, question is the right of the person putting his hard earned money with the hope that it will be invested according to shariah concept in practice not just in theory.
 

Raiwind-Destroyer

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Most of the people who citicize riba are openly taking mortgages in Thier western countries and using banks who day and night deal with Riba please don't be hypocrite first change yourself
 

expat_loyal

Councller (250+ posts)
Most of the people who citicize riba are openly taking mortgages in Thier western countries and using banks who day and night deal with Riba please don't be hypocrite first change yourself
Not everyone and not me for sure. I know many who spend their whole life living in rented flat to avoid mortgage. So these people who refrain from Riba and are conscious for their whole life should not be duped in the name of Islam.
 

Raiwind-Destroyer

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Not everyone and not me for sure. I know many who spend their whole life living in rented flat to avoid mortgage. So these people who refrain from Riba and are conscious for their whole life should not be duped in the name of Islam.
OK even if you refrain from mortgage even then you are promoting banks by putting your money in those banks in western world who deal with Riba and make profits out of them and if you are not taking mortgages you are in very thin minority because if Muslims would have stood up in majority in western world and condemn mortgage I can guarantee you there would be an alternative but most even don't care that's why you see most Sikhs have Thier turban and dagger approved with unity and Muslims nothing we are divided with our greed
 

expat_loyal

Councller (250+ posts)
OK even if you refrain from mortgage even then you are promoting banks by putting your money in those banks in western world who deal with Riba and make profits out of them and if you are not taking mortgages you are in very thin minority because if Muslims would have stood up in majority in western world and condemn mortgage I can guarantee you there would be an alternative but most even don't care that's why you see most Sikhs have Thier turban and dagger approved with unity and Muslims nothing we are divided with our greed
There is nothing wrong to open a current account in any bank. But I fully agree with unity problem. Also the other solutions presented in the name of shariah compliant in US e.g. WAHED and AMANA Fund etc. also investing in companies taking interest based debts.