Quaid-e-Azam and Mir Jafar's Grandson

دوسرا_سوال

Minister (2k+ posts)

With fresh money in my pocket from Maryam Baji's lifafa, I decided to buy something to read. No, not for any conspiracy theory, but you know, just for reading enjoyment.



So, I picked up The City of Hope - The Faridabad Story and started reading it.



Right in the beginning (in fact page 2 and 3), the book quotes Wali Khan's book and Iskandar Mirza's autobiography on how Quaid-e-Azam asked Iskandar Mirza to work against Bacha Khan and Khudai Khitmagars so that their Muslim League can get a better advantage in NWFP.



(I understand that one can contest the truthfulness of Wali Khan's account, and I am not defending or discrediting this. My question at the end is about something else so keep reading...)




Then, we all know how in 1947 Iskandar Mirza was appointed as Pakistan's first Defence Secretary by the Governor General of the time, Quaid-e-Azam. Then we all know how Iskandar Mirza eventually became the last Governor General, then the first President of Pakistan.



And, then we all know (but somehow want to forget) that Iskandar Mirza was the grandson of Mir Jaffar - some one (who along with his family) were the foremost loyalists to the East India Company and British Interests.



So, my question is, why would Quaid-e-Azam give Mir Jafar's grandson such a high position? Was that on oversight? Was Quaid-e-Azam working for the British (Naouzubillah, naouzubillah)? Am I overthinking it or is it something that sticks out as abnormal to everyone?

 
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Yasir1983

MPA (400+ posts)
I am just Wondering....were you born Such an Idiot???? Or you became an Idiot with distinction after taking lessons from the Maryam Centre for development of special needs Patwaries?
 

crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I am just Wondering....were you born Such an Idiot???? Or you became an Idiot with distinction after taking lessons from the Maryam Centre for development of special needs Patwaries?

Don't even think that he is doing it innocently. The crook had an agenda. After the Army, and the Aloo Ghost jibe from the Gaaanja, this is another attempt to attack the creation of Pakistan by directly attacking the Quaid. These crooks wouldn't stop at any thing. Maryam is a bittttch, she is going to destroy Pakistan if not stopped.
 

دوسرا_سوال

Minister (2k+ posts)
I am just Wondering....were you born Such an Idiot???? Or you became an Idiot with distinction after taking lessons from the Maryam Centre for development of special needs Patwaries?
Origin of my idiocy can be discussed later, and in normal font size, but later.


If you can give your opinion on the topic, it would be appreciated. Otherwise just move along.
 

dilavar

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Don't even think that he is doing it innocently. The crook had an agenda. After the Army, and the Aloo Ghost jibe from the Gaaanja, this is another attempt to attack the creation of Pakistan by directly attacking the Quaid. These crooks wouldn't stop at any thing. Maryam is a bittttch, she is going to destroy Pakistan if not stopped.

I disagree.This piglet is too dumb to have an agenda. They just like to run amok in the filth !!!
 

دوسرا_سوال

Minister (2k+ posts)
Don't even think that he is doing it innocently. The crook had an agenda. After the Army, and the Aloo Ghost jibe from the Gaaanja, this is another attempt to attack the creation of Pakistan by directly attacking the Quaid. These crooks wouldn't stop at any thing. Maryam is a bittttch, she is going to destroy Pakistan if not stopped.
I disagree.This piglet is too dumb to have an agenda. They just like to run amok in the filth !!!

Why name calling and blame-game in reply to the question?


Iskandar Mirza was grandson of Mir Jafar. Yes or no?


Quaid-e-Azam appointed him as the first Defence Secretary of Pakistan in 1947. Yes or no?


Two simple questions with no need of name calling in reply. If I am factually wrong, then kindly correct me without any name calling.


You can ask me the question of why am I trying to find a connection between these two questions above, and the answer is simple. Mir Jafar secured his ambition of being the Nawab of Bengal only because he was an agent of East India Co. (British Empire) who provided him with military support to get rid of Siraj-ud-Daulah so that East India Co. could make inroads to he South Asia with eventual colonisation of it. Everyone in Pakistan agrees on this part of this history. (Hence the synonym of Mir Jafar, Mir Sadiq used for a traitor).


Why does it not then sound abnormal to you that his grandson was appointed as the first Defence Secretary of Pakistan?


It seems the last person who should have been left anywhere near the high command of Pakistan and it's military would be the offspring of Mir Jafar, unless, this was all part of a puppet installation plan.
 
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دوسرا_سوال

Minister (2k+ posts)
Are you really this thick ??????????????????????????????
Do you only just ask irrelevant questions when confronted with a tough question?

Why not, once again I ask you, to share your opinion on the topic?

If you think that Mir Jafar was sincere to the people (and Muslims) of Bengal and not an agent loyal to East India Co., then say so.

If you think that Iskandar Mirza was not from Mir Jafar's lineage then you can say that as well.

The lineage goes something like this: Mir Jafar > Mubarak Ali Khan > Mansur Ali Khan > Iskander Ali > Fateh Ali Mirza > Iskandar Mirza

Mansur Ali was the last Nawab from where East India Co. took over and made this successors just Nawabs of a city (Murshidabad), rather than the whole of Bengal, Bihar and Orrisa. Mansur took salary from British Empire right uptil his death. This whole family was loyal to the British Empire.

These are not my words. I read this from Humayum Mirza's book who was son of Iskander Mirza.
 

seedasada

MPA (400+ posts)
origin of my idiocy can be discussed later, and in normal font size, but later.

if you can give your opinion on the topic, it would be appreciated. Otherwise just move along.​


میر جعفر کا نواسہ ہونا بری بات نہیں ہے، بری بات وہ برا عمل ہے جو انسان کرے،،،جیسے اسکندر مرزا نے ایوب کے ساتھ ملکر
پاکستان میں جمہوری سیاست کی قبر کھودی

لیکن اسکندر مرزا کے ان اعمال میں جو اس نے قائد اعظم کی رحلت کے بعد کئے۔۔۔قائد اعظم کہاں سے آگئے؟

اب اس قسم کا سوال کرنے والے کے متعلق یہی کہا جائے گا کہ یا تو وہ احمق ہے ، یا اسکا کوئی ایجنڈہ ہے ۔۔۔

اسکندر مرزا پہلے سے فارن سروس میں تھا نوزائیدہ پاکستان میں قائداعظم کو انہیں لوگوں سے کام چلانا تھا، جو پہلے سے
متعلقہ سروس میں ہوںِ
لکشمی چاند جین، گاندھی کا چیلہ اور قائدآعظم کا کٹر مخالف تھا، اسکی لکھی کتاب سے جھوٹی تحریر اٹھا کر سوال کرنا بھی
آپکی دیانت پر حرف اٹھاتا ہے
قائد آعظم جمہوری فطرت اور سچائی کی طاقت سے لیس ایک عظیم سیاستدان تھے۔۔قحط الرجال کے دور میں ان لوگوں سے
کام چلانا پڑتا ہے جو اپنے دائرے میں کچھ شد بد رکھتے ہوں،،،اسکندر مرزا کا تقرر بھی ایک ایسا ہی معاملہ تھا اور ویسے بھی
بغیر آزمائے کیسے کہا جاسکتا ہے کہ کون کیا ہے۔۔۔اسکندر مرزا نے بابا کے اعتبار کو دھوکا دے کر بے غیرت ہونے کا ثبوت
دیا تو اس میں قائد کی بصیرت کا سوال کہاں سے آگیا،
امید ہے آپکی سمجھ میں یہ بات آگئی ہوگی

 

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