Qiyamat Kab Aye Gi - Dajjal - Imam Mahdi - Ibn Sayad Ka Qisa - Maulana Ishaq
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zainperfect
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Don u get tired of watching corrupt Pakistani politicians faces like Zardari & NS…. Zara thori si deen ki baat bhi sun laine ki humat rakhain janab… u can have differences with this particular Maulana but baat daleel se kero… kisi ko zaleel na kero… As Hazrat Ali RA said yeh na daikho kon keh raha hai yeh daikho ke kia keh raha hai… if u don agree to what this scholar says then u should debate about that issue or bring any other video to show the point of view u agree… but stop discouraging people for posting stuff related to religion… if u don like this section of siasat.pk then u shd not click on the post in the first place…
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not as last nabi
zainperfect
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if u listen carefully he is trying to say that Hazrat Esa AS will come as a ummati but he was a prophet and he will not bring any new sharia.... the proof is that he will offer namaz behind Hazrat Imam Mehdi AS, Wen Imam Mehdi ask him to do imamat, Hazrat ISA will reply No, and will ask Imam Mahdi to do the imamat.... n Hazrat ISA AS will do this to clear a doubt of people's mind that he is not bringing any new sharia... he has explained khatam e nabuwat topic in the following videos in more detail :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fE_LgbA3sQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKm8Xk0VaWo
SO YOU ARE SAYING IF THERE IS A NEED OF PROPHET , NEW PROPHET CANT COME BECAUSE OUR BELOVED PROPHET pbuh IS KHATAMUN NABIYEEN BUT OLD PROPHET CAN COME .
muntazir
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جی ہاں جو بھی فضائل علی بیان کرے اور بنو امیہ شجرہ ملونہ کے کارنامے بیان کرے اس سے دور رہو یہی کام معاویہ کرتا تھا اسی لے امام نسائی کو شہید کیا گیا تھا
On one side maulana sahib is saying during Imam mahdi's time muslims will rule all over world but same time he cant defend muslims from Dajjal so Allah will send Hadhrat ISA AS to protect muslims and Hadhrat Isa AS will follow imam mahdi and will be only ummati nabi but after imam mahdi's death ,He will lead muslims .
hazrat essa (as) ko uper utha liya gaya tha na wo jab duniya mein aheinge dajjal ka mukabla kareinge hazrat mahdi (as) ke saath aur log jo unko mante hein yani ke christian un se mukhatib honge
zainperfect
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yes Brother Prophet Muhammad PBUH was the last Prophet and not any other prophet can come now with a new shariyat... Prophet ESA AS was the second last prophet and was raised alive and will come back to kill dajjal near judgement day... He will come back as a ummaty and follower of islam as prophet-hood has ended after the arrival of Prophet Muhammad PBUH
Dear Brother , It does not make sense to me . Its very contradictory but i respect his views and yours as well .
zainperfect
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imam mehdi will lead muslims in various battles most prominent will be of Armageddon... for ur info bro i m sending u two links with detail info about it... one is end of times hidden truth by shahid masood and other one is a webpage with all the references and sequence of events...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7QJ0yvqkdg
http://www.inter-islam.org/faith/Majorsigns.html
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zainperfect
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let me make u understand with logic brother.... suppose we both r in same college... u registered first in college and i registered after u... after me the college admissions were closed... now there will no longer be any further admission or registration of any new student in the college... so if u leave the college for few holidays and come back to college again for studies... u will not be counted as a new student of the college... u were the old second last registered student of the college and coming back in the end won't make u a new student of that college.. hope dat will make sense to u....
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Dear , the difference is when you bring me back i am still the same person with same qualities but when Hadhrat ISA AS will come, you suddenly take his prophethood away from him and make him a simple ummati who will follow a religion he does not know any thing about. How can he lead muslims without the help of Allah.
and taking your example into account how can you become greater than the whole class just because you enrolled last?
zainperfect
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brother baat hai sirf imaan ki... hidayat Allah ne daini hai mein ne nahi... i tried to prove u wid logic... but u went in another debate... let me quote from same example if u come after holidays what is making u a greater ??? i cdn't get ur answer at all.....plus bible or any previous religion is not a different religion itz ppl who called religion wid different names according to name of their Prophet or that Prophet's holy book... religion has been only one and that is religion of Allah.... pray to him only... Sharia kept changing with respect to human mind evolution...so Prophet ISA AS second coming will not make him feel as if he don know anyfin wotz may be going on... Fight is only between good vs the evil... so he will come and destroy dajjal and his evil forces.... and brother i m not taking any prophet's prophethood away.... I m jus telling u What Prophet Muhammad PBUH told us and wich can be found in various ahadees... anyways brother for ur help i gave u various links... let me give u again... where all major signs of judgement day are explained with reference and full detail with sequence...
http://www.inter-islam.org/faith/Majorsigns.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fE_LgbA3sQ
http://www.inter-islam.org/faith/Majorsigns.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fE_LgbA3sQ
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zainperfect
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i agree that rawadari aur haq se dast bardari nahi honi chahiye... but seems like u hav not heard him properly and in detail... if u trying to quote his critisim on ameer muviya then brother he has quoted references in his speech and he has so many videos on youtube explaining waqai karbala ke asbaab...
the people who start only from yazid can never understand the waqai of karbala and itz imp and message... to understand it... even we sunni's hav very few knowledge... we don know wot happened before and after karbala... so to know that is very imp... plus i found a factor in him wich is to unite muslims not divide... wich no other scholar did... plus he emphasised alot abt stopping muslims sects like shia and sunni calling each other kafir...
prob is dat alot ov our scholars and imam's r just dividing us for the sake of their own dukaan... so dat their different identity shd keep their business running... datzy they nev let us muslims unite... haq ko haq kaho aur ghalat ko ghalat... shan e sahaba beyaan kerna bohut achi baat hai... per un sahaba ki jo haq per rahe... un sahaba ki nahi jinhon ne islam ke bar-aks kaam kia...
anyways brother any person or any sect can have their own different point of view... and i think we all including me shd respect that.... as long as they believe in one Allah, Quran and Prophet Muhammad PBUH as our last Prophet.. but we shd stop critising ppl widout a valid reason or evidence... and calling ppl maloon or kafir... datz the actual message... i don fink this scholar is telling ppl to follow him... he jus tried to explain things as they shd be explained and plus emphasised on unity of Muslims... u can refer to any of his video on youtube for that... hope we understand the message of unity brother :)
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zainperfect
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brother if u really are quoting somfin of him... i would request u to post that video or that material here first... sirf ilzam se tu kaam nahi chalay ga na mere bhai... ap yahan is thread mein post kero... let us all look on it... i posted links wich means i came wid an evidence... u r only commenting as an opinion wich i do respect but brother ap jo bhi mano... plz ap kafir na kaho kisi ko... ap aur mein kafir kehne wale kisi ko kon hote hain... jin logon ne ameer muviya ke bare mein ahadees suni hain fazeelat ki woh unhe bohut acha sahabi mante hain... jinhon ne asliyat sun li hain woh unhein acha nahi samjhte per is mein kafir wali kon si baat hai bhai??? daikho na is ka logical question sirf aik hai... agar ameer muviya ne kuch ghalat nahi kia... tu phir jang e safeen kun hue ??? karbala tak naubat kaise agai ??? kia yeh sara malba yazeed tak hi jata hai yan phir koi aur baat bhi hai jo hum sunni bachpan se hi nahi jante yan phir humain bataya nahi jata... aur humesha sahaba ki shaan ka keh ker cover daal dia jata hai... kia ap yeh sawal kabhi khud se nahi pochte??
aur is ke baad bhi agar ap mere point ov view se razi nahi tu bhai mujhe koi ap se gila nahi kunke is ikhtalaf se meri nazar mein koi kafir nahi hota... ilm ki baat hai humain baat cheet se kerni chahiye... izat se debate ker lain... force tu yahan koi bhi nahi ker raha kisi ko tu ap kun pareshan ho jate hain ??? jaisa ke mein ne apko kaha ne apne last post mein ke mere liye hum sab muslim hain jo Allah, Quran aur Nabi Pak PBUH ko akhir nabi mante hain... ab jahan tak ap logon ko kafir aur maloon keh rahe ho sirf sahabe ke iktalaf e rae se tu mere bhai hum imaan Nabi Pak PBUH per lay hain kisi sahabi ka hum ne kalma nahi perha.... kafir sirf woh ho sakta hai jo Ap PBUH ko mane se inkaar ker de.... baqi yeh debate sirf knowledge ke liye hai.... agar ap ka opinion mukhtalif hai aur apka dil is maulana ke dalail ko nahi manta tu bhai koi baat nahi... don worry and don't take tension... maslay ki yan samjh ki kami se koi kafir nahi hota.... han per ap khud zaroor zehan mein sochna ke Karbala ke waqai ka sara malba kia hum sunni sirf yazeed per daal ker bari ho jate hain ??? kia humain apne ulema se karbala se pehlay kia hua aur us ke baad kia hua nahi pochna chahiye??? chalo agar apko karbala se pehlay ke waqiat per ikhtalaf hai tu ap baad ke hi perh lo.... bani ummyah ne baad mein kia kia aur phir bani abbas ??? afsoos hai ke history mein sab kuch darj hai per hum perhte nahi aur kafir kafir ki behas mein uljh jate hain.... yeh paid ulema bhi yahi chahte hain ke hum bus larte marte rahe aur kabhi knowledge ilm hasil na karain aur haq chupa rahe... very sad
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