PTI's downfall and its supporters

Unlettered

Senator (1k+ posts)
Don't know what's downfall in your dictionary but if it meant to be crowds being pulled from their home everyday (nationwide) , to be continuously on the media from almost a month. To be the most talked about party and leader in the country, to cause what seemingly stupid to many but now becoming a reality, a civil disobedience in the country then yes you're right.
 

jason

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Nakaam tu woh hota hay ju haar maan leta hay.

ki political parties jaloos nikal kr nakaam huin laikin unhon nay himat nahin haari aur apni jidojuhad main jagi raheen.
 

MHAMZA

Minister (2k+ posts)
Imran Khan has put his party into the forge so that the rust comes off and steel comes out
 

Afaq Chaudhry

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

قدرت تحريک انصاف کى تطہير کررہى ہے جلد ايک کے بعد ايک کرکے سارے منافقين تحريک انصاف چھوڑ کر چلے جائيں گے ليکن ہم عمران خان سے يہ درخواست کرتے ہيں کہ جونہي سارے منافقين تحريک انصاف چھوڑ کر دوسرى پارٹيوں ميں چلے جائيں تو انہيں واپس نہ لينا کبھي بھى


الله نے تو تطہیر کا موقعہ دیا ،لیکن ایسے لوگوں کی شمولیت سے بس ستیا ناس کر دیا انہوں نے اور صفائیاں دی جا رہی ہیں ، اب لوٹوں کے ساتھ ساتھ ان کے "پھولوں کی بارش"جماعت اسلامی پر بھی خوب برس رہی ہے ،آگے دیکھئے کیا ہوتا ہے
 

Afaq Chaudhry

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
یہ بندہ بھی اس شیخ اور سہراب کیطرح ایک نفسیاتی کیس ہے۔ اپنی خواہشات کو تجزیے کا نام دیتے ہیں۔ فکر نہ ایسا کچھ نہیں ہونے والا۔
 

Rizwan2009

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
nahin Rizwan G , saaray chorr ikathay nahin hain , kuch chorr Imran Khan ke sath bhi hain , Padri fraudiya chor , Sheikhu Sheeda chor ,Pervez Elahi Punjab Bank ka dakoo aur chorr

اس کا آسان حل ہے کہ آئين کى دفعہ باسٹھ اور تريسٹھ کے مطابق انتخابات ہوں تو يہ سارے چور ڈاکو اس طرح تتر بتر ہوجائيں گے کہ ان کا نام و نشان بھى نہ ملے گا
 

Rizwan2009

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

ہمارى دوستى دشمنى صرف ايک اصول پر مبنى ہے کرپٹ کو ہم کسى صورت برداشت نہيں کرسکتے چاہے وہ تحريک انصاف کا شاہ محمود قريشى جہانگير ترين شفقت محمود اسد عمر ہى کيوں نہ ہو اور اگر عمران خان بھى کرپشن ميں ملوث ہے تو اس کو بھى قيادت کا حق حاصل نہيں ہے
 

Rizwan2009

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)


الله نے تو تطہیر کا موقعہ دیا ،لیکن ایسے لوگوں کی شمولیت سے بس ستیا ناس کر دیا انہوں نے اور صفائیاں دی جا رہی ہیں ، اب لوٹوں کے ساتھ ساتھ ان کے "پھولوں کی بارش"جماعت اسلامی پر بھی خوب برس رہی ہے ،آگے دیکھئے کیا ہوتا ہے

يہ اچھا ہے کہ تحريک انصاف پر زيادہ سے زيادہ تکليفيں اور مصيبتيں آئيں اور ان تکليفوں اور مصيبتوں سے گھبرا کر سارے چور ڈاکو تحريک انصاف چھوڑ کر بھاگ جائيں صرف وہ لوگ رہ جائيں جن کا نظريہ اور اصول ہو
 

Sniper

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
As predicted and was evident, the downfall of PTI was going to come form no where else but from its "chalwal" supporters who made it another PMLN, MQM and PPPP by saying that "Khan you are the best" , "you are next to God", "whatever you say or do is only right", "you are the only hope", "you are so called "Aql-e-Qul". Even a common man on street knows that IK has no real political sense and on top of that he is not a leader (even though like other parties the supporters place him next to Churchill and Washington). He just follows the tide and that is why he changes his opinion and stance every now and then. He is thin-eared and WHOEVER and WHATEVER says anything he believes and then makes his opinion according to that. This is where supporters of PTI (including me) should have played their role and should have not only criticized every wrong move of PTI, keep IK in a check and not allow him to induct so called WICKETS in PTI in place of the founding members.

I said it 3 years ago and say it again, IK is not a leader, he relies on his social media coordinators and whatever is fed to him by his cronies, false or true. If we, the supporters, comment sensibly and give honest feedback, specially on social media, it may help PTI in regulating its decisions and policies. I am sure PTI has lost lots of its supporters in the last few weeks but it is never too late to mend.

Please not comment the same stuff as a reply that "IK we love you, no matter what you do or say, we close our eyes and we have trust in you" . If so then we can not call PMLN, JUI, MQM or PPPP supporters wrong because they do the same, they also support any wrong or right decision of their leaders without questioning the logic behind it.

Hum tumhari tarha patwari nahi hain.
 

Sniper

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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Agreeeeeeeeeeee
 

Altaf Lutfi

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If your wisdom is so low that you find Churchill and Washington to quote as idols worth a match with IK even on PTI standards, it is sufficient to discredit your whole argument.Do not put your words in a PTI lover's mouth. These both gentlemen were great commanders in the field and their political side emerged from people's appreciation for their victory in battlefield. Churchill was even rejected to be a good political stuff. IK has no marshal background except that he believes in strict discipline like a soldier. Why should I waste time on other titbits in your writing ?
 

PIND-WALA

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I agree kay nahi Khatam karti, but is it false to analyze that why the movement failed?

Movement failed or suffered because of lack of people in ISL . or in other words, forces of evil/greed are much more stronger than the resolve of IK and few thousands.
However I agree with your original post that PTI supporters must be more critical of decisions by IK and CEC. However I dont believe that he lacks leadership qualities ,He lacks political sense which is not exactly same as being a bad leader.
 

t_nsaim

MPA (400+ posts)
LoL no downfall of MQM despite killing hundred of thousand in Karachi, No down fall of Nooras for record corruption, a family party , involved in killing of pakistanis by use of state power and PTI downfall just because it raised its voice against rigging

WELL SAID. Slap on status quo mafia. But Patwaris will not accept

 

Rizwan2009

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
PTI ke fans Himat buhat zalde har jate he.

کبھى کبھى ميں قائداعظم کا يہ قول سنتا ہوں تو بہت خوشى محسوس ہوتى ہے کہ ہے پاکستان کو اتنا عظيم انسان اور ليڈر ملا تھا جس نے پہلے ہى اس قوم کو بتا ديا تھا کہ آپ لوگ جتنى تکليفيں برداشت کريں گے اتنا ہى مظبوط قوم بن کر ابھريں گے جس طرح سونا آگ ميں جل کر کندن بن جاتا ہے
 

Omrkhan

Minister (2k+ posts)

کبھى کبھى ميں قائداعظم کا يہ قول سنتا ہوں تو بہت خوشى محسوس ہوتى ہے کہ ہے پاکستان کو اتنا عظيم انسان اور ليڈر ملا تھا جس نے پہلے ہى اس قوم کو بتا ديا تھا کہ آپ لوگ جتنى تکليفيں برداشت کريں گے اتنا ہى مظبوط قوم بن کر ابھريں گے جس طرح سونا آگ ميں جل کر کندن بن جاتا ہے

@Sniper and Rizwan

I don't Know what is going to be outcome Of this dharna. But I pray our system changes for the better.
This is not about Imran or PTI winning or losing. But agenda they put forth should prevail. Maybe agenda wins this week or next year or year after that. PTI ko apne undr changes lane pare ge. Discipline and structure Minhaj ul Koran wala Lana parega. Lekn Qadri se 200 ft ka fasla rakhna parega.

5 points accept karwao and than come back for resignation in a few months time. Well prepared.
Imran Khan and PTI must survive from this. There is no need for martyrdom.
 

Kavalier

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
That was supposed to be symbolic, trying to clarify that IK is not a leader like Churchill and Washington. Leader" is the main word, not political or military.

If your wisdom is so low that you find Churchill and Washington to quote as idols worth a match with IK even on PTI standards, it is sufficient to discredit your whole argument.Do not put your words in a PTI lover's mouth. These both gentlemen were great commanders in the field and their political side emerged from people's appreciation for their victory in battlefield. Churchill was even rejected to be a good political stuff. IK has no marshal background except that he believes in strict discipline like a soldier. Why should I waste time on other titbits in your writing ?