PTI Walon sey kuch SAWAAAL

[Sohail Shuja]

1- Justice Wajihuddin ki report ka kya bana? Party k andar ki dhandli kab khatam ho gi? justice delayed is justice denied... isn't ?

2- Chalo pehlay biwi aur bachi thanday pani sey naha nhi saktay thay? abb kab bill pharo gay?

3- KPK k budget main kitnay paisay hain Metro k liye, aur kitnay projects hain IDPs k liye ?

4- Chotay dharnay main (jo abb kisi ko shayd yaad bhi na ho), aik FIR darj hui thi aur aik adalat ney ahkamat jari kiye thay k drone hamlay band kerwao. KPK ki Model Police ney adalat k ahkamat pe abhi tak koi action liya ? KPK ki hukoomat ney uss pe aaj tak kyun nhi pocha Police ko? Kya agla dharna American consulate k bahir ho ga ?

NOTE: Lo g phir aaj daikhtay hain .... kaun dalel sey baat kerta hay... ya mere andazay k mutabiq khamoshi hi rehti hay, ya PTI ki chand ujri hui bewayein yahan pe ban karaingi sirf

 

[saadmahhmood83]

سوال سارے غلط تھے ، جواب کیا دیتے ، سوالنمبر۳ آئی ڈی پیز کی ڈائرکٹ ذمہ داری وفاق کی ہے۔وفاق سے پو چھو

 

[manj_pti]

I think this guy seems to be drunk...Oh bhai first see your questions and then see some morror or borrow from Baji Mariam Nawaz...Couldn't understand how these people live..

 

[Direct Hawaldaar]

کاکا سپائی، توں کدوں دا عمران توں منہ پھیر لیا اے؟ کل تک تے توں اوہدے وڈے وڈے گناہواں تے پردے پاندا ساں، آج کی پیڑ پے گئی اے؟


.تیری اے والی گل پسند آئی اے


PTI ki chand ujri hui bewayein yahan pe ban karaingi sirf



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[miafridi]

Your Questions are Childish but still here are the answers.

1) Justice Vajih ne Recommendations di, aur osi bina par ab Direct elections honay walay hai. Kuch voters ko Khareedna toh asaan hai, but saaro ko nai...

2) The announcement of no bill paying was to force a decision. That movement ended and so the pressure tactics ended along with it..

3) KPK is not using, Health, Dolphin police, Warden police and Grave yard budget on Orange line train at least. It is equally focusing on everything and spending on each thing as required, be it Expansion of roads, Construction of Flyovers, Beautification of city, Education, Health(Polio and other diseases), or Police system..

4) The court decision is symbolic to mark something as official stance, which will prevent at least the KPK government getting into a deal with any power who wants to conduct drone from Out side the country.. It is not for actually shooting down a drone. Just like there are verdicts against Altaf hussain for ceasing his assets from various courts in various provinces, but unless the assets are in the areas where the courts jurisdiction can reach there cannot be any action as per the court.. Meaning if someone is in UK, But a Pakistani court has a verdict against him in Pakistan, Pakistan cannot arrest him until he comes into Pakistan where the jurisdiction of Pakistan works, unless there is a contract between the two countries to hand over Each other's criminals(In which case it will mean that the Court Jurisdiction is applicable to UK as well)..

 

[Sohail Shuja]

سوال سارے غلط تھے ، جواب کیا دیتے ، سوالنمبر۳ آئی ڈی پیز کی ڈائرکٹ ذمہ داری وفاق کی ہے۔وفاق سے پو چھو

Jiska jawab ban na parey to sawal ghalat.... yeh bhi theek hay...

Acha agar IDP's Fed Govt ki zimma dari hay to yeh page daikho aur batao k KPK Govt phir us ka fund kyun leti hay aur apni website pe display bhi kerti hay... aur PM k Parrsa package sey aaj se nhi 2009 sey paisay iss fund main transfer kiye jatay hain, jinko logon tak agay pohnchana provincial govt ki zimmadari hay....

Look at this plz : http://www.pdma.gov.pk/fm-data.php

Aur main ney yeh nhi poocha tha k IDP zimma daari kis ki hay.. main ney poocha tha k un k liye projects kitnay hain? paisay to mil chukay hain KPK ko

Chalo g... abb yeh sawaal bhi ghalat ho gaya na ??? :)

 

[saadmahhmood83]

Jiska jawab ban na parey to sawal ghalat.... yeh bhi theek hay...

Acha agar IDP's Fed Govt ki zimma dari hay to yeh page daikho aur batao k KPK Govt phir us ka fund kyun leti hay aur apni website pe display bhi kerti hay... aur PM k Parrsa package sey aaj se nhi 2009 sey paisay iss fund main transfer kiye jatay hain, jinko logon tak agay pohnchana provincial govt ki zimmadari hay....

Look at this plz : http://www.pdma.gov.pk/fm-data.php

Aur main ney yeh nhi poocha tha k IDP zimma daari kis ki hay.. main ney poocha tha k un k liye projects kitnay hain? paisay to mil chukay hain KPK ko

Chalo g... abb yeh sawaal bhi ghalat ho gaya na ??? :)

فنڈز تو بجلی کے وفاق پورے نہیں دیتا ، جتنا خرچ آئی ڈی پیز پرآتا ہے اس کا ون تھرڈ بھی وفاق نہیں دیتا ۔،،،پی ڈی ایم اے کے بارے کہاں لکھا ہے کہ وہ ۱۰ سال آئی ڈی پیز کو سنبھالے گا۔۔
باقی صوبوں نے تو آ ئی ڈی پیز کو وڑنے ہی نہیں دیا تھا
اگر کوئی سپیفیک ڈیٹا موجود ہے کہ وفاق نے جو رقم آئی ڈی پی کی مد میں دی اور ان کو ملی تو شیئر کرو ویب سائٹ شیئر کرنے کا کوئی فائدہ نہیں

[h=1]Ban on IDPs entry into Sindh, Punjab ‘unconstitutional’[/h]http://www.dawn.com/news/1114581

 

[Sohail Shuja]

Your Questions are Childish but still here are the answers.

1) Justice Vajih ne Recommendations di, aur osi bina par ab Direct elections honay walay hai. Kuch voters ko Khareedna toh asaan hai, but saaro ko nai...

When were the recommendations given, I think early in 2015... Justice Wajih's membership was suspended in Aug 2015... Any timeline given by PTI as of yet ?

2) The announcement of no bill paying was to force a decision. That movement ended and so the pressure tactics ended along with it..

Good, so what else is a pressure tactic? what are the ends reached through these means? PTI sitting in the same benches again? what has literally changed ?

3) KPK is not using, Health, Dolphin police, Warden police and Grave yard budget on Orange line train at least. It is equally focusing on everything and spending on each thing as required, be it Expansion of roads, Construction of Flyovers, Beautification of city, Education, Health(Polio and other diseases), or Police system..

Yes, they are spending a lot on infrastructure and Metros to beautify the city, but they are surrendering funds given to them out of PM's IDP package... why? what are their priorities? lives of people or their political point scoring by copying the PML (N) ? Plz see the link I have posted for Saad Mehmood

4) The court decision is symbolic to mark something as official stance, which will prevent at least the KPK government getting into a deal with any power who wants to conduct drone from Out side the country.. It is not for actually shooting down a drone. Just like there are verdicts against Altaf hussain for ceasing his assets from various courts in various provinces, but unless the assets are in the areas where the courts jurisdiction can reach there cannot be any action as per the court.. Meaning if someone is in UK, But a Pakistani court has a verdict against him in Pakistan, Pakistan cannot arrest him until he comes into Pakistan where the jurisdiction of Pakistan works, unless there is a contract between the two countries to hand over Each other's criminals(In which case it will mean that the Court Jurisdiction is applicable to UK as well)..

Please see the courts verdict here

Page 2 says:

ii. to order the respondents to protect theright to life of its citizen and useforce if need be to stop extrajudicialkillings with drones;

iii. to provide redress for the criminaloffences committed by those involvedinside and outside Pakistan in droneoperations and in particularlyinvolved in the strike on 17th March2011 by directing the relevantauthorities that criminal charges,under the relevant laws of the IslamicRepublic of Pakistan be registeredagainst those responsible;

By looking at the bold statements.... I am wondering how should I construe it

 

[Sohail Shuja]

فنڈز تو بجلی کے وفاق پورے نہیں دیتا ، جتنا خرچ آئی ڈی پیز پرآتا ہے اس کا ون تھرڈ بھی وفاق نہیں دیتا ۔،،،پی ڈی ایم اے کے بارے کہاں لکھا ہے کہ وہ ۱۰ سال آئی ڈی پیز کو سنبھالے گا۔۔
باقی صوبوں نے تو آ ئی ڈی پیز کو وڑنے ہی نہیں دیا تھا
اگر کوئی سپیفیک ڈیٹا موجود ہے کہ وفاق نے جو رقم آئی ڈی پی کی مد میں دی اور ان کو ملی تو شیئر کرو ویب سائٹ شیئر کرنے کا کوئی فائدہ نہیں

Ban on IDPs entry into Sindh, Punjab ‘unconstitutional’

http://www.dawn.com/news/1114581

Website pe sara data hi hay .... check to karo... aap page pe gaye hi nhi ho... its complete financial history of hown much GOvt of KPK is recieving under HUASP and PM package and what it has done so far.....

[TABLE="class: table8, width: 901"]
[TR]
[TD]Total 2014-15[/TD]
[TD]351,000,000[/TD]
[TD]409,040,000[/TD]
[TD]760,040,000[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Surrendered amount under PM Package & HUASP[/TD]
[TD]261,798,000[/TD]
[TD]220,240,000[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

yeh Surrendered amount woh ahy jo in say kharch hi nhi ho saki.... yeh to kabhi munh khol k nhi batatay, bas apni website pe likhna inki majboori hay

 

[Patriotic Razi]

When were the recommendations given, I think early in 2015... Justice Wajih's membership was suspended in Aug 2015... Any timeline given by PTI as of yet ?



Good, so what else is a pressure tactic? what are the ends reached through these means? PTI sitting in the same benches again? what has literally changed ?



Yes, they are spending a lot on infrastructure and Metros to beautify the city, but they are surrendering funds given to them out of PM's IDP package... why? what are their priorities? lives of people or their political point scoring by copying the PML (N) ? Plz see the link I have posted for Saad Mehmood



Please see the courts verdict here

Page 2 says:

ii. to order the respondents to protect the‘right to life’ of its citizen and useforce if need be to stop extrajudicialkillings with drones;

iii. to provide redress for the criminaloffences committed by those involvedinside and outside Pakistan in droneoperations and in particularlyinvolved in the strike on 17th March2011 by directing the relevant authorities that criminal charges,under the relevant laws of the IslamicRepublic of Pakistan be registeredagainst those responsible;

By looking at the bold statements.... I am wondering how should I construe it

TRUTH is TRUTH even if no one believes it, A LIE is a LIE even if every one believes it

 

[saadmahhmood83]

Jiska jawab ban na parey to sawal ghalat.... yeh bhi theek hay...

Acha agar IDP's Fed Govt ki zimma dari hay to yeh page daikho aur batao k KPK Govt phir us ka fund kyun leti hay aur apni website pe display bhi kerti hay... aur PM k Parrsa package sey aaj se nhi 2009 sey paisay iss fund main transfer kiye jatay hain, jinko logon tak agay pohnchana provincial govt ki zimmadari hay....

Look at this plz : http://www.pdma.gov.pk/fm-data.php

Aur main ney yeh nhi poocha tha k IDP zimma daari kis ki hay.. main ney poocha tha k un k liye projects kitnay hain? paisay to mil chukay hain KPK ko

Chalo g... abb yeh sawaal bhi ghalat ho gaya na ??? :)

او استاد ۳۰ جون ۲۰۱۳ کلوڈزنگ کی آڈٹ رپوٹ دے رہے ۔۔۔۔۔پی ٹی آئی کی گورنمنٹ شروع اس کے بعد ہوئی۔۔۔۔اور اس رپوٹ ہے ہی پیسے کتنے آئے اور کتنے خرچ ہوئے۔
میں نے زندگی میں صرف ایک کتاب پڑھی آڈٹنک کی ، لیکن یہ پتا چل گیا تو جاہل ہے۔

 

[Sohail Shuja]

W

Cheers man, but some other time IA, on some other thread, I will share my thoughts on it and will tag you for sure (y)... I at least like your intentions of firefighting, but these days, these PTI walas are getting so obnoxious on insulting people... that I had to start it.

But my bad luck, abhi tak yahan pe sirf aik hi ujri hui bewa aayee hay PTI ki jis ney aatay k saath hi Kaha hay k main sharaab p k baitha houn.... agar 2 ya 3 aur aa jatay to aaj inn sey bhi 2,,2 haath ho jatay... laikin meri qismat hi kharab hai... aik hi aaya hay abhi tak

 

[Muskerahat]

ضیاء کی گودسے سیاسی تربیت پائی وڈے پٹواری نے اس سے پوچھو یہ سارے برے کام پٹواری لیگ کیوں کرتی ہے . کبھی بیگناہ خواتین کا قتل کبھی معصوم بچوں سے زیادتی کیس

 

[Sohail Shuja]

او استاد ۳۰ جون ۲۰۱۳ کلوڈزنگ کی آڈٹ رپوٹ دے رہے ۔۔۔۔۔پی ٹی آئی کی گورنمنٹ شروع اس کے بعد ہوئی۔۔۔۔اور اس رپوٹ ہے ہی پیسے کتنے آئے اور کتنے خرچ ہوئے۔
میں نے زندگی میں صرف ایک کتاب پڑھی آڈٹنک کی ، لیکن یہ پتا چل گیا تو جاہل ہے۔

Yaar neechay scroll bhi ker lo.... neechay 2014-15 ki bhi report hay, jis main sey main ney last msg main quote kiya tha...

 

[Sohail Shuja]

ضیاء کی گودسے سیاسی تربیت پائی وڈے پٹواری نے اس سے پوچھو یہ سارے برے کام پٹواری لیگ کیوں کرتی ہے . کبھی بیگناہ خواتین کا قتل کبھی معصوم بچوں سے زیادتی کیس

Sawaal k jawaab main sawaal ? yeh koi jawaz to nhi hay PTI k paas k daikho baray tamashay baaz to wahan baithay hain un ko poocho pehlay jaa ker, main to chota tamashay baaz houn... mere paas baad main ana

 

[Sohail Shuja]

TRUTH is TRUTH even if no one believes it, A LIE is a LIEeven if every one believes it

Lagta hay aap bhi mujh sey Khan saab wala naara lagwana chahtay hain.... "Allah Al-Haqq Hay"

 

[saadmahhmood83]

yaar neechay scroll bhi ker lo.... neechay 2014-15 ki bhi report hay, jis main sey main ney last msg main quote kiya tha...

پا مینوں اے دسو
huasp
فنڈ کس کم لیے سی؟

 

[miafridi]

When were the recommendations given, I think early in 2015... Justice Wajih's membership was suspended in Aug 2015... Any timeline given by PTI as of yet ?



Good, so what else is a pressure tactic? what are the ends reached through these means? PTI sitting in the same benches again? what has literally changed ?



Yes, they are spending a lot on infrastructure and Metros to beautify the city, but they are surrendering funds given to them out of PM's IDP package... why? what are their priorities? lives of people or their political point scoring by copying the PML (N) ? Plz see the link I have posted for Saad Mehmood



Please see the courts verdict here

Page 2 says:

ii. to order the respondents to protect the‘right to life’ of its citizen and useforce if need be to stop extrajudicialkillings with drones;

iii. to provide redress for the criminaloffences committed by those involvedinside and outside Pakistan in droneoperations and in particularlyinvolved in the strike on 17th March2011 by directing the relevantauthorities that criminal charges,under the relevant laws of the IslamicRepublic of Pakistan be registeredagainst those responsible;

By looking at the bold statements.... I am wondering how should I construe it

I knew you won't understand the answers because if someone had such childish questions how would he understand the answers? You are like a Kid asking his fater "Oh father Ho does a ghost look like", Father Answers " Ghosts doesn't exist". You will start staying "But father everyone says they do, Please provide proof that they don't".. and the series will be non-stop.. Still answering again..

1) Intra Party Elections based on Direct elections are announced to be anywhere between March 2016..

2) You are being childish in asking this, because people do protest to get their right, they announce things like Keeping Fast as protest until their demands are met, Once the movement is over, people don't keep fast till the last breath of their lives. Its just a tactic used at pressure time for more pressure and isn't used all the time even after something is finished.. The goal is creating pressure to get something done, not to damage your own self all your life.

The aim of the movement was to push for reforms, and the movement didn't start right away, It started when IK's 4 constituency demand wasn't fulfilled for about a Year(when the original time given for resolving of issues was 4 months only), Then IK started to give warnings through jalsas to give justice and after so many warning the Dharna Movement was started still with the aim to compel the government for an investigation, but few days after the dharna when the government still ignored everything, IK started to say that in the presence of such ignorant PM justice can't be served so he demanded his resignation. In every movement/protest/revolution you use tactics which you think might be able to pressurize the opposition even further. The movement ended and so everything else ended along with it..

3) can you Provide Proof for that instead of the report issued in June 2013 when PTI just took office..Also I am not paid Media team member like you so try to highlight things which you want to point out to me, instead of just pasting a report because I am not paid like you for reading and getting information out of a long survey or report. Please.

4) I was crystal clear that such decisions are imposed when the committed crime covers the courts jurisdiction, and gave you Altaf hussains example.. If you want to understand it read it again and again, If not, please don't waste my time..

 

[Amal]

TRUTH is TRUTH even if no one believes it, A LIE is a LIEeven if every one believes it

yeh baat zalim leauge key supporters ko samajhni chahiyeh !

 

[Sohail Shuja]

I knew you won't understand the answers because if someone had such childish questions how would he understand the answers? You are like a Kid asking his fater "Oh father Ho does a ghost look like", Father Answers " Ghosts doesn't exist". You will start staying "But father everyone says they do, Please provide proof that they don't".. and the series will be non-stop.. Still answering again..

1) Intra Party Elections based on Direct elections are announced to be anywhere between March 2016..

Mention your authentic source of information about this? According to your party's official resources, there is no schedule announced as of yet. Ghosts exists :D ... see this: PTI in deadlock over its intra-party polls

2) You are being childish... The goal is creating pressure to get something done, not to damage your own self all your life. The aim of the movement was to push for reforms, and the movement didn't start right away, It started when IK's 4 constituency demand wasn't fulfilled for about a Year(when the original time given for resolving of issues was 4 months only), Then IK started to give warnings through jalsas to give justice and after so many warning the Dharna Movement was started still with the aim to compel the government for an investigation, but few days after the dharna when the government still ignored everything, IK started to say that in the presence of such ignorant PM justice can't be served so he demanded his resignation. In every movement/protest/revolution you use tactics which you think might be able to pressurize the opposition even further. The movement ended and so everything else ended along with it..

Rather than your verbose rhetoric, simply tell me what was the goal of dharna's? what has been achieved so far? you have proved the elections were rigged... but you still are sitting in the same parliament? People lost their lives there my mate.... I don't know if the blood of his own party workers is so cheap to this guy. Simply tell me what has been achieved through Dharna and this investigation?

3) can you Provide Proof for that instead of the report issued in June 2013 when PTI just took office..Also I am not paid Media team member like you so try to highlight things which you want to point out to me, instead of just pasting a report because I am not paid like you for reading and getting information out of a long survey or report. Please.

Yeah it happens sometimes that when the truth hits you right between the eyes... a person goes blind, specially the blind followers of PTI.... I thought adults knew how to scroll a page down. But if you can't do it, please ask a child around you, perhaps he will be able to help you with it.

4) I was crystal clear that such decisions are imposed when the committed crime covers the courts jurisdiction, and gave you Altaf hussains example.. If you want to understand it read it again and again, If not, please don't waste my time..

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You may be better at interpreting the word of law. I know I have just learned two courses on on Master's level in law, one might be from a world renown university... but here the verdict can be understood by anyone who can understand simple and plain English....

The Word is : use force if need be to stop extrajudicial killings with drones.
your example of Altaf Hussain is just like a cute little babble from an innocent child my dear.

Drones are killing people within your boundaries Not outside Pakistan and this offence is apprehensive under the UN Charter's provisions, as further described in the judgement. Moreover, teh American Diplomatic Mission is sitting in your Diplomatic Enclave, where Govt of Pakistan are providing security to them. Even if they don't listen, you can go to UN security council... but who will do that???? Will IK ever put pressure on such an issue where people are loosing lives everyday? or will it be just for the electoral investigations, at the end of which you wonder what have you achieved and what has really changed in essence?

Even if I accept your first argument, for the argument's sake... it makes no sense that the Provincial Govt is trying to protect itself from any allegations against them. They cannot be alleged because on International levels, it is the responsibility of the Federal Govt to be answerable to anyone. But Khan sb can only shout about that the IDP's are a burden on their Govt and the Fed should take responsibility and he does not know that he cannot be held answerable for the drone attacks, since FATA means "Federally Administered Tribal Areas".. do you understand the meaning of "Federally Administered" ? Even if you look at teh very first page of the case reference, It is mentioned that the case is against the " Federation of Pakistan"

You people loose your sight and mind when anything against you comes up. Open your eyes and most importantly your minds to understand what you are looking at.