Political murders with and without clue : PM Liaquat Ali Khan, Pres.Gen.Zia ul Haq and former PM Mrs

shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
Three prominent personalities of Pakistan were murdered. They were PM Laquat Ali Khan , Pres. Gen.Zia ul Haq and Mrs.Benazir Bhutto Zardari . While one can understand the murder of a serving PM or President for one reason or another , the murder of politician who has yet to make it again is non -understandable.

Regarding Liaquat Ali Khan's murder there are several theories but some may be mentioned to start the thread.

The simplest theory is that Said Akbar was angry that his wife participated in the women's rally organized Mrs.Liaquat Ali khan without burqa and told people he will kill PM and practised often with his weapon using a water tank as a target for weeks in full view of people who never took his statement that he will kill PM serious enough to report .

Other one is that Said Akbar was a hired killer and had Afghanistan connections and some USA cables revealed after time period mention this , third theory is that Liaquat Ali's ceasefire on Kashmir evoked angry response from NWFP and final theory involves serious tensions in British - Liaquat relationship . According to different variants of this theory his murder was orchestrated by a person who was recruited in police by special sifarish of then prepartition Baluchistan ruler and the senior post of police in Rawalpindi ? range was kept vacant to forestall any serious inquiry later on .

A secretary of Raja Ghazanfar Ali Khan in his book titled "From Martial law to Martial law" tries to give impression that Liaquat was in the next few days going to a summit meeting in Tehran where new Iranian leadership and Egypts leadership was to gather and show support against British on Suez and Iranian oil nationalization issue . The support of this theory comes from three further conjectures , first is that Liaquat Ali has made a choice between UK and USA (not USA and USSR) as some wrote later and visited USA. Second that Liaquat's relationship with local British ambassador was not good and he asked Muhammed Ali to deal with matters raised by him on a daily basis as Pakistan was dominion not republic and third that the coming into being of Pakistan involved some secret parleys and agreements with British to which Liaquat was not a party or was not agreeable , the later theory if accepted will raise the next question that was "objective resolution" a firm No to understanding with the British not only on strategic issue but of long term vision of Pakistan.

Liaquat Ali like jinnah actually lost a lot of property to independence and his lands before partition were spread over two provinces of India . By the time he was killed only 1/8 of his some 80000 Rupees he had brought from India were left .

Next is Gen.Zia 's murder , this was the first massive security lapse involving Pakistan army. Several theories exist , first it was said that Mango crates had explosive material in it , the lab reports if true and not planted to divert confirmed traces of an explosive . People who routinely travel on C130 do not believe this version , they point out that C130 is robust and can land even with one running engine and loss of control of plane seen by some bystanders point to either control system malfunction or else to the third theory of Neurological gas which can explain control system malfunction . The gas theory shifts planner to outside Pakistan to big powers.

Benazir 's murder is recent and despite the events having occurred in the midst of town there are several versions again. The official versions have been two , first the version that she died of gun shot wound and other is her head got hit to the rim as a result of blast . The problem with gunshot was that gunman was standing on left side and wound was on the right and there was no bullet on xray and entry exit wounds were not clear . The problem with head striking to the rim as a result of blast was that there were no hair or blood on the rim .

The hole in her brain was on the right and liquified brain/ fluids etc were pouring out from right side when body was seen by her friends. So was this again the work of a Jinn or some advanced weapon which can smash brain on the right yet leave no entry or exist wound and no metallic remains except very small remain . i.e some kind of high speed particle gun developed again by a foreign power and then the issue of how millions of volts were generated to initiate this device and how can such fit in building or vehicle and so on .

Musharaf's case might yield more information in courts but one should not be surprised that UN report details clash with local report details , this is Pakistan. Perhaps UN report's initial version mentioned something like Benazir falling in car 1.4 seconds in advance of explosion /gunshot complex which supports advanced research weapon . Then there are nominated Vaziris and then bodies of people including pathan Burqa women and then there is issue of Benazir's missing dopata and other items. Post mortem was not much of an issue as she had a Skull Xray and doctor opened here chest so minipostmortem was indeed done . CT was not done as angry PPP throngs scared doctors and placed themselves between Operation theatre and CT room . There were rumors of doctors being subject to vigorous pressures of all sort later on .Basically there is no clue to her murder and this too is history for all practical purposes .

Now the number of political murders has quadrupled and ordinary murders astronomical , but one can say that we were never good murder investigators. I have heard several seasoned lawyers that in Pakistan the person who face gallows are often the innocents !.

My views on judiciary are well displayed on other threads and have a solid basis .
 
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ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Only way is for one to look at is who benefitted from these murders. In Liaqat case India as he showed them the fist about their aggressions in Kashmir, he being the first PM could have taken to task and gotten Kashmir back.in the case of Zia, the beneficiary was Bhutto's and in the case of Bhutto the beneficiary was Mr. 10%, Now I could be far off but it does make sense.

Now there are theories about Zia that I read in a magazine in Canada about gas, there are many speculations, until a clear evidence is produced , all is just that speculations.
 

GareebAdmi

Citizen
Anyone charged for their incompetence, their security incharge, intelligence agencies, biased judges.. waste of time topic as nothing going to change.. (cry)(cry)(cry)(cry)(cry)(cry)(cry)
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Any high profile murder all over the world in which CIA is involved is bound to remain officially a mystery even if it is committed in daylight with video evidence and the murderer/shooter himself admits.
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
First of all one has to accept the the presence of a danger, then only he will try to avaoid it.

We Muslims believe that life and death is in the hands of Allah S.W.T. but one must always be aware, and take necessary steps to avoid troubles and arguments based on falsehood and not antagonize others by lies and cheatings, Imran Khan is above all things noted.

I wish him all the success in politics and long life for the sake of Pakistan. Ameen.
 

sngilani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
We Muslims believe that life and death is in the hands of Allah S.W.T. but one must always be aware, and take necessary steps to avoid troubles and arguments based on falsehood and not antagonize others by lies and cheatings, Imran Khan is above all things noted.

I wish him all the success in politics and long life for the sake of Pakistan. Ameen.

I also wish him long life and success in life. We all believe in Allah and seek his protection. but Pakistanis are by nature oblivious and careless. They tend to spend their unplanned lives in chaos, disarray, jumble, turmoil and tumult. They are even unable to come to a consensus to formulize a simple policy to fight terrorrism.
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I also wish him long life and success in life. We all believe in Allah and seek his protection. but Pakistanis are by nature oblivious and careless. They tend to spend their unplanned lives in chaos, disarray, jumble, turmoil and tumult. They are even unable to come to a consensus to formulize a simple policy to fight terrorrism.

All Pakistanis are not like that, only few morons, my family history that we know about, is that in the last our ancestors from 300 years ago when English came to India, did not take part in any anti Muslim, anti Islam or anti Govt. activities and stayed the coarse of family as law abiding citizens.

stayed the coarse, became poor due to not becoming traitors, but than many many families did that in pre and post partition, so blaming all Pakistanis is not right, only few traitors who work for money and not Islam or Pakistan or decency or honesty are doing what you said about all Pakistanis. And insha allah allah will take accounts and will over run their schemes and underhanded ways.
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
protection. but Pakistanis are by nature oblivious and careless. They tend to spend their unplanned lives in chaos, disarray, jumble, turmoil and tumult. They are even unable to come to a consensus to formulize a simple policy to fight terrorrism.[/QUOTE]

All Pakistanis are not like that, only few morons, my family history that we know about, is that our ancestors from 300 years ago when Mughals rule ended in India, did not take part in any anti Muslim, anti Islam or anti Govt. activities and stayed the coarse of family as law abiding citizens.

stayed the coarse, became poor due to not becoming traitors, but than many many families did that in pre and post partition, so blaming all Pakistanis is not right, only few traitors who work for money and not Islam or Pakistan or decency or honesty are doing what you said about all Pakistanis. And insha allah allah will take accounts and will over run their schemes and underhanded ways.
 

sngilani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
All Pakistanis are not like that, only few morons, my family history that we know about, is that in the last our ancestors from 300 years ago when English came to India, did not take part in any anti Muslim, anti Islam or anti Govt. activities and stayed the coarse of family as law abiding citizens.

stayed the coarse, became poor due to not becoming traitors, but than many many families did that in pre and post partition, so blaming all Pakistanis is not right, only few traitors who work for money and not Islam or Pakistan or decency or honesty are doing what you said about all Pakistanis. And insha allah allah will take accounts and will over run their schemes and underhanded ways.

Leave the enemy apart, Pakistanis have not even learnt to manage anual moon soon rain fall. Today all big cities of Pakistan are under water including Islamabad.
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Leave the enemy apart, Pakistanis have not even learnt to manage anual moon soon rain fall. Today all big cities of Pakistan are under water including Islamabad.
As I said before, it is not all Pakistanis, it is some few hundred nincompoops.give the reigns and i will fix Pakistan on war footings in one to two years.

I will tackle power problem by calling on our best friends to come in with force of engineers, construction workers and provide them with military protection, as I said war footing, in one year all coal plants will be installed and Pakistani coal used to run steam plants and than wala free electricity or very cheap to say the least, than get business deals with our best friend again and get factories set up to back up our friends factories for basic material preparations to supply them with materials they need to run their factories.

Rest i will explain if I am given the opportunity to serve Pakistan, my motherland, than i will also help my adopted land by being the one who came to help from adopted land to mother land.

win win situation all around.
 

sngilani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
As I said before, it is not all Pakistanis, it is some few hundred nincompoops.give the reigns and i will fix Pakistan on war footings in one to two years.

I will tackle power problem by calling on our best friends to come in with force of engineers, construction workers and provide them with military protection, as I said war footing, in one year all coal plants will be installed and Pakistani coal used to run steam plants and than wala free electricity or very cheap to say the least, than get business deals with our best friend again and get factories set up to back up our friends factories for basic material preparations to supply them with materials they need to run their factories.

Rest i will explain if I am given the opportunity to serve Pakistan, my motherland, than i will also help my adopted land by being the one who came to help from adopted land to mother land.

win win situation all around.

Running factories is not a job for any government. Governments should provide guidelines and make policies.
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Running factories is not a job for any government. Governments should provide guidelines and make policies.
This quote about Govt. not able to run Factories is not Islamic way of thinking, where most private businesses are thief s stealing power and water, Umar R.A. did run Govt. very efficiently and Muslims can take a hint from it, we do have a honest politician in the name of I.K and he can copy hazarat Umer E.A. in running the Govt. your deductions about Govt. cannot run the factories is again not so right as China's Govt. has done a tremendous job.
 

shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
Why should Liaquat Ali Khan refrain from passing objective resolution ? He had already given up his homeland and his wealth for creating a state for Muslims of this part . He has already seen the Hindu and sikh gangs killing and raping mercilessly their Muslim neighbours. He had seen how much his folks had given up for Pakistan and their faith just to be with their coreligionists. It was ripe time for the next step the laying of the basis of law for this new land , the islamic land . How could possibly secularism come in . jinnah has ample opportunity to remain in the secular bandwagon , he quit congress very early. jinnah too had the nicest house in Bombay . He too sacrificed all that.

Now some NGO culture writer want to show him as semimuslim secular , once that stage is accepted the next they will try is that he was an agnost and finally if all goes well without opposition that he was an athiest afterall!