PMLN or East India company?? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired

Zesh Zeshu

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

no but we gurantee only 15%. However since govt of pakistan buys more electricity the overal return increase to 31%. if we guarantee 31% return then you can well imagine what the final return will be. if gop doesnt give that min return these companies will go to court. it seems to me that after steel and poultry, sharifs want to enter the energy business.
no he said govt offers 17.5 % when we need more we buy more and overall it reaches to 30 percent what if we say that you have chance of getting 30 percent back these were his wordings wordings
 
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

no he said govt offers 17.5 % when we need more we buy more and overall it reaches to 30 percent what if we say that you have chance of getting 30 percent back these were his wordings wordings

So not worry soon everything will be clear ...... its not something that government can hide... U just prepare for worst and plan how to defend this corruption...
 

Zesh Zeshu

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

So not worry soon everything will be clear ...... its not something that government can hide... U just prepare for worst and plan how to defend this corruption...

So far only allegation not even a single corruption yet be proved can you prove any corruption when amnesty international reports comes Pti start saying its paid what you accept ? Only letters stumped by Asad Umar or Imran khan ?
 

affanpervez

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

What dalel are you talking about , the person who is in the investment board explain all the thing what else you want ?

Please us explaination ko hamarai liyay bhi asan kar kai re-explain kar dain kyun kai haamain samajh nahi aa rahi hai.



no he said govt offers 17.5 % when we need more we buy more and overall it reaches to 30 percent what if we say that you have chance of getting 30 percent back these were his wordings wordings

31.5 percent sovereign guaranteed return on 35 billion dollars in dollars mean even if we don't buy a single unit we have to pay them 11.02 billion dollars each year. Current circular debt Rs. 500 billion jata hai tow government ko loan lainai par jatai hain aur salana Rs. 1102 billion kahan sai dai gi government. Ab kuch samjh ayay. Even loans are not as harming as this deal is.

Khuda ne aaj tak us qaum ki haalat naheen badlee
na ho jisko khyal aap apni haalat ke badalne ka
 
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Zesh Zeshu

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

Please us explaination ko hamarai liyay bhi asan kar kai re-explain kar dain kyun kai haamain samajh nahi aa rahi hai.





31.5 percent sovereign guaranteed return on 35 billion dollars in dollars mean even if we don't buy a single unit we have to pay them 11.66 billion dollars each year. Current circular debt Rs. 500 billion jata hai tow government ko loan lainai par jatai hain aur salana Rs. 1166 billion kahan sai dai gi government. Ab kuch samjh ayay. Even loans are not as harming as this deal is.

Khuda ne aaj tak us qaum ki haalat naheen badlee
na ho jisko khyal aap apni haalat ke badalne ka

Oh Bhi he simply explained govt offers 17.5% rest when they need more they buy more so at the end it become 30 percent so why nit we say you can get around 30% return back I know you have not listened that sharing
 
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

So far only allegation not even a single corruption yet be proved can you prove any corruption when amnesty international reports comes Pti start saying its paid what you accept ? Only letters stumped by Asad Umar or Imran khan ?

No corruption even proved against Zardari........ Indeed, Pakistan elite is corruption free only the poor are corrupt:lol:
 

Zesh Zeshu

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

No corruption even proved against Zardari........ Indeed, Pakistan elite is corruption free only the poor are corrupt:lol:

Let's talk about last five year during Ppp tenure how many cases and corruption and since last six years could you please tell me which of pmln corruption case has been in court or which of Pti person bring pmln corruption in ? Courts khwaja Asif bring cases of Ppp in courts

dont tell me what imran said Imran khan even once said Nawaz Sharif paid 5 k tax while in Nawaz sharif tax return it was 25Lac
 

Gabbar Singh

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

یہ پاگل کہتا تھا ۔ ڈالر 127 پر آجائے گا۔ ۔ ۔
مخالفت برائے مخالفت

تیرا پائی نواز کا ملازم۔ تو عمران کا ملازم ۔ ۔
وہ کہے تیری پارٹی غلط ہے ۔ تو کہے اس کی پارٹی غلط ہے ۔

حد ہو گئی ہے ۔ دونوں بھائی دونوں گھروں سے کمائی


Iska baap army ka mulazim tha aur intehaae corrupt aadmi tha.......... jab usne dekha ke army main ab maal banane main woh maza nahi jo pehle tha tu dono baccho ko army ke bajaaye siyasat main bheej diya woh bhi mukhtalif parties main takay maaal dono taraf se aaye........... Asad umer aik intehaae chalaak aadmi hai jo jaanta hai ke corruption kaise ki jaati hai aur Abba ki source laga ker kaise bacha ja sakta hai.....
 
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

Let's talk about last five year during Ppp tenure how many cases and corruption and since last six years could you please tell me which of pmln corruption case has been in court or which of Pti person bring pmln corruption in ? Courts khwaja Asif bring cases of Ppp in courts

dont tell me what imran said Imran khan even once said Nawaz Sharif paid 5 k tax while in Nawaz sharif tax return it was 25Lac

Zeshu.......... Even PML N itself accepted Nawaz Paid 5 thousand Tax Because he was in Saudi Arabia not in Pakistan...... Secondly u do not no anything, I said prove corruption against Zardari, Everyone Know what was cooking between PML N, Geo and Iftikhar Chaudhary...Anyway PTI will expose Nooras Corruption when in Government .... Be prepare for worst
 

Zesh Zeshu

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

Zeshu.......... Even PML N itself accepted Nawaz Paid 5 thousand Tax Because he was in Saudi Arabia not in Pakistan...... Secondly u do not no anything, I said prove corruption against Zardari, Everyone Know what was cooking between PML N, Geo and Iftikhar Chaudhary...Anyway PTI will expose Nooras Corruption when in Government .... Be prepare for worst
imran khan said he paid for year 2010/11 go and listen imran khan allegation first about Nawaz Sharif tax.

yeh Pti lives in conspiracy theorises this and that will happens ,Pmln khawaja Asif went to court when they were in Govt , Why not Imran khan go in court against any corruption just putting allegation is not a big deal ,best way is proof by going in court ,Imran khan once said he will go against Khawaja Asif but he didt and I can bring many stuffs here which Imran khan said but he didt but I don't want to be a typical Pti who just put allegation my main reason of going against Pti is this they just put allegation and think the self Pak saf Mahan
 
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

imran khan said he paid for year 2010/11 go and listen imran khan allegation first about Nawaz Sharif tax.

yeh Pti lives in conspiracy theorises this and that will happens ,Pmln khawaja Asif went to court when they were in Govt , Why not Imran khan go in court against any corruption just putting allegation is not a big deal ,best way is proof by going in court ,Imran khan once said he will go against Khawaja Asif but he didt and I can bring many stuffs here which Imran khan said but he didt but I don't want to be a typical Pti who just put allegation my main reason of going against Pti is this they just put allegation and think the self Pak saf Mahan

In sharif Courts? Just wait for Inqalab and Nooras will be in Arabian Sea
 

Zesh Zeshu

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

In sharif Courts? Just wait for Inqalab and Nooras will be in Arabian Sea

See it shows your Biased and hate approach towards Pmln anyways let see let the time decide but at the moment Pti is the master of allegation they don't bring up with proof just allegations
 

affanpervez

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

imran khan said he paid for year 2010/11 go and listen imran khan allegation first about Nawaz Sharif tax.

yeh Pti lives in conspiracy theorises this and that will happens ,Pmln khawaja Asif went to court when they were in Govt , Why not Imran khan go in court against any corruption just putting allegation is not a big deal ,best way is proof by going in court ,Imran khan once said he will go against Khawaja Asif but he didt and I can bring many stuffs here which Imran khan said but he didt but I don't want to be a typical Pti who just put allegation my main reason of going against Pti is this they just put allegation and think the self Pak saf Mahan

5k tax ka tow NS khud atiraf kar chuka hai.


These are not allegations:

Palat kai jhapatna jhapat kai palatna
Lahu garam karnai ka hai aik bahana
 

Zesh Zeshu

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

5k tax ka tow NS khud atiraf kar chuka hai.


These are not allegations:

Palat kai jhapatna jhapat kai palatna
Lahu garam karnai ka hai aik bahana
Baat ni mani jitna marzi proof main piesh kar do ap ko
 

affanpervez

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

Baat ni mani jitna marzi proof main piesh kar do ap ko

OK justify this:

NEPRA approves ‘world’s heaviest’ tariff, incentives for coal power plants
ISLAMABAD: The National Electric Power Regulatory Authority (NEPRA) has approved Rs 1.50/unit heavy hike in the upfront tariff of the coal power plants and also offered lucrative incentives/benefits for installation of coal power plants in the country, exclusive documentary evidence reveals.

Official documents available with Daily Times disclose that the Water And Power Ministry, in a review petition, requested NEPRA to accord approval for the tariff and many other benefits. And, as a result, the authority has approved Rs 1.50/unit increase in the upfront power tariff for establishing coal power plants in the country. According to documents, the regulatory authority, while jacking up the tariff, has fixed an upfront tariff of 8 to 9.67cent per unit for coal power plant of 200MW, while 8 to 9.54cent/unit for a power plant of 600MW, and 8 to 9.11 cent/unit for coal power plant of 1,100MW.

Similarly, the authority has set 8.50cent/unit for coal power plant that will run on Thar coal. Official sources said that NEPRA has approved world’s heaviest tariff and other benefits, if compared with the tariff and other benefits so far given to the coal power plants installed in various parts of the globe with a view to tap alternative sources of energy to meet the power demand. “Local, and even foreign, power companies cannot find such lucrative tariff and weighty incentives for investing in the coal power generation plants anywhere across the world,” a senior official said.

He added that this attractive upfront tariff and other incentives have been given apparently only because of the governmental deadline of 2017. ThePML-N government has so far made tall claims that power load shedding would witness an end by 2017 in the country. The tale of NEPRA benefiting the investors who are likely to install coal power plants in the country does not end here, as the regulator has also jacked up return on equity by 10 percent, which was earlier set at 17 percent, and now it has risen to 27 percent for the imported coal.

And, return on equity for local coal has also been increased by 9 percent, which was earlier fixed at 20 percent, and with NEPRAs approval it has reached at 29 percent. “Similarly, the return on equity has been offered at 36.66 percent for Thar coal, which has so far no example in the world,” sources said. He added that instead of increasing the efficiency of the coal power plants for generation purposes NEPRA has decreased by 3 percent only to benefit the investors which has now reached at 42 percent.

“Owing to the concerns raised by Chinese investors, Ministry of Water and Power has submitted a review plea with NEPRA,” an official at the Power Ministry said on the condition of anonymity. It must be noted here that Water and Power Secretary Saifullah Chatha himself briefed the authority during a public hearing of the authority, which also has no example in the past. The secretary assured the regulator that the Chinese investors are ready to invest only if it issues the amended tariff.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/nation...viest-tariff-incentives-for-coal-power-plants


Then they further increased the tariff to make someone happy:
Nepra revises upfront tariff for coal-fired power plants

KARACHI: The National Electric Power Regulatory Authority (Nepra) has revised the upfront tariff for coal-fired power plants, official document revealed on Wednesday.

The authority considered the government of Pakistan’s reconsideration request dated February 11 and Thar Power Company’s request dated January 24, regarding the revision in the determination of the authority in the matter of upfront tariff for coal-fired power plants and revised the tariff, it showed.

According to the revised determination, the levelised tariff for a 220MW imported coal-fired plant would be 8.6417 cents/kWh (foreign financed projects) and 9.6774 cents/kWh for locally financed projects, while the tariff for 330MW Thar coal, foreign financed project would be 8.5015 cents/kWh, according to the document.

The levelised tariff for a 220MW local coal-fired plant would be 8.2537 cents/kWh (foreign financed projects) and 9.2978 cents/kWh for locally financed projects, it showed.

The levelised tariff for a 660MW imported coal-fired plant would be 8.3601 cents/kWh (foreign financed projects) and 9.5422 cents/kWh for locally financed projects. The levelised tariff for a 660MW local coal-fired plant would be 8.0116 cents/kWh (foreign financed projects) and 9.21 cents/kWh for locally financed projects, it revealed.

The levelised tariff for 1100MW imported coal-fired plant would be 8.0189 cents/kWh (foreign financed projects) and 9.1198 cents/kWh for locally financed projects. The levelised tariff for 1100MW local coal-fired plant would be 7.6738 cents/kWh (foreign financed projects) and 8.7897 cents/kWh for locally financed projects.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-Ne...es-upfront-tariff-for-coal-fired-power-plants

Now they are offering 31.5 percent guaranteed rate of return in terms of dollars.

1996n main PML-N nai sarai international investors ko bhaga dia tha and they also abandoned the thar coal and due to the dispute of fraction of cents the Chinese company left the country.

"But after the change of Government in 1996, the new Govt decided that they were going to focus on Hydel Power instead and coal power was not needed, the then serving Petroleum Minister went on record to announce this sudden and dramatic policy shift in 1996/97. All these international companies were therefore driven away, sustaining huge losses. Current lack of interest by international mining companies is largely due to lack of credibility, primarily caused by Government policy inconsistencies rather than any deficiency in the resource base of Thar Coal. Much is made of the story of the Chinese company Shenhua which did a preliminary feasibility study of Thar coal but decided not to pursue the project further allegedly on disagreement with proposed tariff."

http://www.opfblog.com/9533/pakistan’s-thar-coal-a-comparative-study/


Ab kuch samjh main ajab corruption ki ghazab kahani?

 

Zesh Zeshu

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

OK justify this:

NEPRA approves ‘world’s heaviest’ tariff, incentives for coal power plants
ISLAMABAD: The National Electric Power Regulatory Authority (NEPRA) has approved Rs 1.50/unit heavy hike in the upfront tariff of the coal power plants and also offered lucrative incentives/benefits for installation of coal power plants in the country, exclusive documentary evidence reveals.

Official documents available with Daily Times disclose that the Water And Power Ministry, in a review petition, requested NEPRA to accord approval for the tariff and many other benefits. And, as a result, the authority has approved Rs 1.50/unit increase in the upfront power tariff for establishing coal power plants in the country. According to documents, the regulatory authority, while jacking up the tariff, has fixed an upfront tariff of 8 to 9.67cent per unit for coal power plant of 200MW, while 8 to 9.54cent/unit for a power plant of 600MW, and 8 to 9.11 cent/unit for coal power plant of 1,100MW.

Similarly, the authority has set 8.50cent/unit for coal power plant that will run on Thar coal. Official sources said that NEPRA has approved world’s heaviest tariff and other benefits, if compared with the tariff and other benefits so far given to the coal power plants installed in various parts of the globe with a view to tap alternative sources of energy to meet the power demand. “Local, and even foreign, power companies cannot find such lucrative tariff and weighty incentives for investing in the coal power generation plants anywhere across the world,” a senior official said.

He added that this attractive upfront tariff and other incentives have been given apparently only because of the governmental deadline of 2017. ThePML-N government has so far made tall claims that power load shedding would witness an end by 2017 in the country. The tale of NEPRA benefiting the investors who are likely to install coal power plants in the country does not end here, as the regulator has also jacked up return on equity by 10 percent, which was earlier set at 17 percent, and now it has risen to 27 percent for the imported coal.

And, return on equity for local coal has also been increased by 9 percent, which was earlier fixed at 20 percent, and with NEPRAs approval it has reached at 29 percent. “Similarly, the return on equity has been offered at 36.66 percent for Thar coal, which has so far no example in the world,” sources said. He added that instead of increasing the efficiency of the coal power plants for generation purposes NEPRA has decreased by 3 percent only to benefit the investors which has now reached at 42 percent.

“Owing to the concerns raised by Chinese investors, Ministry of Water and Power has submitted a review plea with NEPRA,” an official at the Power Ministry said on the condition of anonymity. It must be noted here that Water and Power Secretary Saifullah Chatha himself briefed the authority during a public hearing of the authority, which also has no example in the past. The secretary assured the regulator that the Chinese investors are ready to invest only if it issues the amended tariff.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/nation...viest-tariff-incentives-for-coal-power-plants


Then they further increased the tariff to make someone happy:
Nepra revises upfront tariff for coal-fired power plants

KARACHI: The National Electric Power Regulatory Authority (Nepra) has revised the upfront tariff for coal-fired power plants, official document revealed on Wednesday.

The authority considered the government of Pakistan’s reconsideration request dated February 11 and Thar Power Company’s request dated January 24, regarding the revision in the determination of the authority in the matter of upfront tariff for coal-fired power plants and revised the tariff, it showed.

According to the revised determination, the levelised tariff for a 220MW imported coal-fired plant would be 8.6417 cents/kWh (foreign financed projects) and 9.6774 cents/kWh for locally financed projects, while the tariff for 330MW Thar coal, foreign financed project would be 8.5015 cents/kWh, according to the document.

The levelised tariff for a 220MW local coal-fired plant would be 8.2537 cents/kWh (foreign financed projects) and 9.2978 cents/kWh for locally financed projects, it showed.

The levelised tariff for a 660MW imported coal-fired plant would be 8.3601 cents/kWh (foreign financed projects) and 9.5422 cents/kWh for locally financed projects. The levelised tariff for a 660MW local coal-fired plant would be 8.0116 cents/kWh (foreign financed projects) and 9.21 cents/kWh for locally financed projects, it revealed.

The levelised tariff for 1100MW imported coal-fired plant would be 8.0189 cents/kWh (foreign financed projects) and 9.1198 cents/kWh for locally financed projects. The levelised tariff for 1100MW local coal-fired plant would be 7.6738 cents/kWh (foreign financed projects) and 8.7897 cents/kWh for locally financed projects.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-Ne...es-upfront-tariff-for-coal-fired-power-plants

Now they are offering 31.5 percent guaranteed rate of return in terms of dollars.

1996n main PML-N nai sarai international investors ko bhaga dia tha and they also abandoned the thar coal and due to the dispute of fraction of cents the Chinese company left the country.

"But after the change of Government in 1996, the new Govt decided that they were going to focus on Hydel Power instead and coal power was not needed, the then serving Petroleum Minister went on record to announce this sudden and dramatic policy shift in 1996/97. All these international companies were therefore driven away, sustaining huge losses. Current lack of interest by international mining companies is largely due to lack of credibility, primarily caused by Government policy inconsistencies rather than any deficiency in the resource base of Thar Coal. Much is made of the story of the Chinese company Shenhua which did a preliminary feasibility study of Thar coal but decided not to pursue the project further allegedly on disagreement with proposed tariff."

http://www.opfblog.com/9533/pakistan’s-thar-coal-a-comparative-study/


Ab kuch samjh main ajab corruption ki ghazab kahani?

Corruption very good ,yeh Pmln is giving his own companies these contract and will earn frm it that's good right ?
 

Zesh Zeshu

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

I know you'll defend it as well

خیبر پختونخواہ میں غریبوں کی سنی گی،
غریب ایم پی اے کے ماہانہ الاونس 77640 سے بڑھ کر 204040 روپے
ٹریول الاونس 3 روپے فی کلومیٹر سے 15 روپے فی کلومیٹر
ایک ایم پی اے کی صرف سیلری 18000
ایک ایم پے کا آفس مینٹیننس الاونس 10000
ایک ایم پی اے کا ٹیلی فون الاونس 10000
ایک ایم پی اے کا سینچوری الاونس 10000
ایک ایم پی اے کا یوٹیلیٹی الاونس 4800
ایک ایم پی اے کا ہاوس رینٹ 30000
ایک ایم پی اے کا میڈیکل الاونس 9000
ایک ایم پی اے مہینے کے آخر میں کم از کم صرف 457840 علاوہ ٹریویل الاونس لے گا
جبکہ سپیکر صاحب کو سفر کی مد میں دو لاکھ روپے ایڈیشنل دیے جاییں گے ٹریویل کی مد میں جبکہ ڈپٹی سپیکر کو ڈیڑھ لاکھ ایڈیشنل ملیں گے
 

affanpervez

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

I know you'll defend it as well

خیبر پختونخواہ میں غریبوں کی سنی گی،
غریب ایم پی اے کے ماہانہ الاونس 77640 سے بڑھ کر 204040 روپے
ٹریول الاونس 3 روپے فی کلومیٹر سے 15 روپے فی کلومیٹر
ایک ایم پی اے کی صرف سیلری 18000
ایک ایم پے کا آفس مینٹیننس الاونس 10000
ایک ایم پی اے کا ٹیلی فون الاونس 10000
ایک ایم پی اے کا سینچوری الاونس 10000
ایک ایم پی اے کا یوٹیلیٹی الاونس 4800
ایک ایم پی اے کا ہاوس رینٹ 30000
ایک ایم پی اے کا میڈیکل الاونس 9000
ایک ایم پی اے مہینے کے آخر میں کم از کم صرف 457840 علاوہ ٹریویل الاونس لے گا
جبکہ سپیکر صاحب کو سفر کی مد میں دو لاکھ روپے ایڈیشنل دیے جاییں گے ٹریویل کی مد میں جبکہ ڈپٹی سپیکر کو ڈیڑھ لاکھ ایڈیشنل ملیں گے

Source????????????
Please always attach some authentic source otherwise there is no credibility in your comment.

Yeah daikh lain tow aap ko KPK main PTI ki performance ka pata chal jai ga.

http://ptikpk.blogspot.de/
http://teeth.com.pk/blog/2014/01/21/many-ask-what-has-pti-done-in-kpk-up-until-now

Kisi aik cheez par bhi atiraz ho tow mujhey zaroor batiyay ga.


 

affanpervez

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: PML-N or East India company?????? Extreme corruption by offering 31.5 percent return rate for coal fired power plants.

اس کا جواب یہ ہے کہ اگر دال روٹی چلانی ہے تو شرائط ماننی ہونگی۔ ابھی اس قابل نہی ہوئے ہو کہ خود کو دوسرے ممالک کے برابر رکھ کر بات کرو۔


Ae Tair-e-Lahooti! Uss Rizq Se Mout Achi
Jis Rizq Se Ati Ho Parwaz Mein Kotahi
 

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