Pakistan's Security Challenges......Musharraf,s Speech

[Zaidi Qasim]

GeoG:

He knows very well that this list was produced and he couldn't say a word after on that thread. But Indeed, these are scums of Pakistan and will not easily quit these bad habits.Now, going back to Mehwish_ali's ranting in a long and noisy cermon,she called Baluchies started to think as if Bugti was Muzloom.She insulted the people all the time and especially those who oppose Musharraf's dictotarial regime and also oppose the blood shed of MQM.Just because of the media 's attitude( in her opinion) the baluschies thought that the Bugti was Muzloom ? As if they don't have their own thinking and couldn't find a difference between a dictator and a murderer. I say Their Pir is also a fugitive who ran away from the justice in Pakistan. whenever he comes back, we should hang him without questions !!!!

 

[Spartacus]

I don't want to go through 1 hr and 10 min of pain and discuss this piece of sh*t with you Spartacus. I have done this before when you were challenging everyone on this forum to read "In the line for fire" by his highness Munafiq Musharraf and then to debate with you on his intellectual foresight. Let me tell you, I will not fall into this trap again. Whatever is put forward by MQM supporters on this forum is just a total waste of time.

As you wrote ....I have done this before when you were challenging everyone on this forum to read "In the line for fire" by his highness Munafiq Musharraf and then to debate with

Dear some stupid on this FORUM were claiming that MUSHARRAF wrote in his book that he handed over Pakistani to USA that is why I challenged them that they should read his book first and show me which page or in which chapter he wrote this...
Do you think my challenge was wrong.....NO
I won that challenge....

If there is a competition for Baigharati, you will definitley WIN it
Here is list again of Pakistanis picked from Pakistan and sent to Guantanamo with date of arrest, which was posted on the same thread, adslpxp2 is refering to and after this list was posted Tum Ghadahy Kay Sar Say Seengh Ki Tarah Ghayab Ho Gayay Thay and now you are claiming you win, Koi Ratti Bhar Hi Haya Kar Lo.

10 Abdul Sattar
17/09/2004
11 Abdul Satar Nafeesi 17/09/2004
12 Shabidzada Usman 09/05/2003
14 Zafar Iqbal 17/09/2004
15
Zia Ul Shah
11/10/2006
16 Jamal Muhammad Al-Deen 16/07/2003
17
Muhammed Ijaz Khan
17/09/2004
18
Mohammed Sayed
17/09/2004
19
Sha Mohammed Alikhel
09/05/2003
20
Mohammed Ishaq
18/11/2003
21
Salah Hudin
16/07/2003
23
Isa Khan
17/09/2004
47
Asad Ullah
16/07/2003
85
Munir Bin Naseer
30/11/2003
97
Tariq Khan
16/07/2003
98
Hafiz Ihsan Saeed
17/09/2004
99
Abdul Raziq
16/07/2003
100 Mohammed Ashraf
17/09/2004
101
Mohammed Irfan
17/09/2004
106
Mohammed Raz
16/07/2003
113
Said Saim Ali
17/09/2004
134
Ghaser Zaban Safollah
16/07/2003
135
Ejaz Ahmad Khan
18/11/2003
136
Tarik Mohammad
30/11/2003
137
Mohammed Tariq
17/09/2004
138
Salahodin Ayubi
17/09/2004
139
Hafice Leqeat Manzu
18/11/2003
140
Said Saim Ali
17/09/2004
141 Haseeb Ayub
17/09/2004
142
Fazaldad
17/09/2004
143
Mohammad Sanghir
28/10/2002
144
Mohammad Il Yas
17/09/2004
145
Hamood Ullah Khan
17/09/2004
146
Mohammad Kashef Khan
16/07/2003
147 Mohammed Arshad Raza
17/09/2004
210
Faik Iqbal
16/07/2003
247
Kay Fiyatullah
17/09/2004
299
Abid Raza
17/09/2004
300
Zahid Sultan
17/09/2004
301
Khalil Rahman Hafez
17/09/2004
302
Mohamed Ijaz
17/09/2004
303
Ali Ahmed (Guantanamo captive 303)
16/07/2003
304
Mohammed Ansar
16/07/2003
305
Hanif Mohammed
17/09/2004
442
Abdul Mowla
16/07/2003
444
Jihan Wali
09/05/2003
495
Mohammed Rafiq (Guantanamo detainee 495)
17/09/2004
504
Aminullah Amin
17/09/2004
515
Israr Ul Haq
14/03/2004
524
Mohammed Anwar
17/09/2004
529
Bacha Khan
17/09/2004
540
Mohammed Omar
17/09/2004
541
Mohammed Noman
17/09/2004
542
Mohammad Abas
14/03/2004
545
Sajin Urayman
16/07/2003
581
Abdur Sayed Rahaman
11/03/2005
586
Karam Khamis Sayd Khamsan
19/08/2005
624
Majid Mehmood
18/11/2003
634
Ali Mohammed
14/03/2004
743
Hafez Qari Mohamed Saad Iqbal
31/08/2008
830
Tila Mohammed Khan
18/11/2003
842
Sultan Ahmad
17/09/2004
843
Saghir Ahmed
17/09/2004
1005 Bashir Ahmad 17/09/2004
1006
Mohammed Irfan
17/09/2004
1007
Abdul Halim Sadiqi
11/10/2006
1011
Mohammed Akbar
17/09/2004
1460
Abdul Al-Rahim Ghulam Rabbani

1461
Mohammed Ahmad Ghulam Rabbani

10020
Majid Khan

10024
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed

I challenged them that they should read his book first and show me which page or in which chapter he wrote this


Do you think my challenge was wrong.....NO
I won that challenge....

GeoG , In which chapter Musharraf gave this list that you are showing here.....

President Musharraf never handed over Pakistanis. Al-Qaeda men belonging to different nationalities were handed over. They would have been extradited in any case. If we got free money against them - wise deal !

1- 31 Dec 2009: Lastly, Former president Gen Pervez Musharraf had also turned down a US request for extradition of Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, who was wanted in the murder of journalist Daniel Pearl.

http://www.pkmirror.com/2009/12/31/paki ... s-says-fo/

2- In his address, Musharraf refused to hand over Pakistanis wanted by the Indian side.

"We have been sent a list of 20 people wanted by India. If we are given evidence against those people, we will take action against them in Pakistan under our own laws," he said, adding "there is no question of handing over any Pakistani."

http://www1.china.org.cn/english/FR/25183.htm

President Musharraf's policies was never to hand over Pakistanis!

 

[karachi_neutral]

He is not 100% but better than [zardari] [nawaz] kind of hypocrites. One should listen him carefully then decide. [nawaz] [shahbaz sharif] are interested in Power and point scoring in Punjab. He tried to improve Punjab image, listen his awsome answer to the question regarding operation against Punjabi Taliban, however [shahbaz sharif] has to face tough time in International media for his foolish speech regarding Talibanization and his narrow (Punjab bordered) based vision.
Today, what is the condition of Pakistan, no one is interested in solving it. At least Musharraf is doing the best in current situation by highlighting the basic problems. Tell me the single tenure of any leader when there were no problems. But what we can see during Musharaf era was the development and inclined accelerated economy with many positive things. He couldn't survive because of his worst companions. Yes, I agree there were worst decisions as well but less than looting decade of PPP n PML-N . Compare combined decade of PPP n PML-N and Musharraf's decade. You will see the difference that more developments were in Musharaff era and most corruption during PPP n PML-N era.
Open the eyes and try to think for Pakistan not for your own Parties. Allah bless our country.

 

[Zaidi Qasim]

He is not 100% but better than [zardari] [nawaz] kind of hypocrites. One should listen him carefully then decide. [nawaz] [shahbaz sharif] are interested in Power and point scoring in Punjab. He tried to improve Punjab image, listen his awsome answer to the question regarding operation against Punjabi Taliban, however [shahbaz sharif] has to face tough time in International media for his foolish speech regarding Talibanization and his narrow (Punjab bordered) based vision.
Today, what is the condition of Pakistan, no one is interested in solving it. At least Musharraf is doing the best in current situation by highlighting the basic problems. Tell me the single tenure of any leader when there were no problems. But what we can see during Musharaf era was the development and inclined accelerated economy with many positive things. He couldn't survive because of his worst companions. Yes, I agree there were worst decisions as well but less than looting decade of PPP n PML-N . Compare combined decade of PPP n PML-N and Musharraf's decade. You will see the difference that more developments were in Musharaff era and most corruption during PPP n PML-N era.
Open the eyes and try to think for Pakistan not for your own Parties. Allah bless our country.

Stop a** licking the dictator. Whatever you see in Pakistan today, is the direct result of this dictator's decade old policies of foolishness and egotastic.Zardari is present in Pakistan only because of this notarious NRO which was brought in by this dictator who now make money to provide the western world with view of the skewed mentality of army barracks.He should stop this nonsense , come back to face the trials in courts against him.

 

[samy99]

Mir musharraf,who gave you the permission to go to the differnt forum and do the "bakwas" on the name of pakistan.we dont need you - stop this nonsense and just realise what you have done to pakistan that pakistan have come to this stage that people on the street have to cry becuase of the follies created by you and the more stupidities are done by this inefficient govt.you along with shaukat aziz sold out pakistan for peanuts and made huge blundered like stock exchange ,habib bank ,ptcl,pia ,raliway,lal masjid,akbar bughti's murder,blackwater,allowed drone attacks,house arrested 60 judges along with their families,sold dr.afia siddiqi to U.S and missing persons.your lists of crimes are so long that people feel to make you in pieces,so just leave us alone we dont want to see your bloody face at all.you are sharabi and kababi,a womanizer who had made the president house into hira mandi.these facts are based on very solid sources so dont show us your bloody face,we just hate you even instead of the situation we have in the country.just go and get lost.

 

[karachi_neutral]

Stop a** licking the dictator. Whatever you see in Pakistan today, is the direct result of this dictator's decade old policies of foolishness and egotastic.Zardari is present in Pakistan only because of this notarious NRO which was brought in by this dictator who now make money to provide the western world with view of the skewed mentality of army barracks.He should stop this nonsense , come back to face the trials in courts against him.

[wall] The illiteracy is a big problem or the root case of all problems. This can be observed among many members of this forum, who instead of discussion, show their attitudes/mother tongue by ''USING 3/4/5 OR 6 STAR ABUSIVE WORDS'' like you did. Please people, stop using abusive words in your comments and behave yourself else we can get good idea, where are you from.

[nawaz] [zardari] are the beneficiaries of NRO. Why they don't face all the cases in the courts after NRO. Why Nawaz never struggle for missing people, Afia Siddiqui instead he wants Power and enjoying zardari company. There are lot of people in this forum to support these corrupts but they don't want to listen others point of view, instead show their hate by their mother tongue using stars like abusive comments.

If Zardari leaves the Govt then the big looting Nawaz will be in (if his favorite 17 ammendmnt wish fulfills) and so on. There isn't a single one at least better than Musharraf, and if then please compare their Govt with Musharraf and I know, you can not!

 

[GeoG]

I challenged them that they should read his book first and show me which page or in which chapter he wrote this

Do you think my challenge was wrong.....NO
I won that challenge....

Baigharti Main PhD, Spartacus, you said that Musharraf never handed over any Pakistani to US
You think he will print a list of persons who were handed over
It will be just like MQM printing all Bhatta Money Collected Details in National Newspapers.

 

[Spartacus]

GeoG
Please do not use this type of langauge....

Now read my challenge again....

I challenged them that they should read his book first and show me which page or in which chapter he wrote this

Do you think my challenge was wrong.....NO
I won that challenge....

Because some people on this FORUM were claiming that he wrote in his book......

Yes , he never handed over a single Pakistani to USA.....
That list you provided here is a claim and nothing more....This list is not a proof but a claim....

President Musharraf never handed over Pakistanis. Al-Qaeda men belonging to different nationalities were handed over. They would have been extradited in any case. If we got free money against them - wise deal !

1- 31 Dec 2009: Lastly, Former president Gen Pervez Musharraf had also turned down a US request for extradition of Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, who was wanted in the murder of journalist Daniel Pearl.

http://www.pkmirror.com/2009/12/31/paki" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... s-says-fo/

2- In his address, Musharraf refused to hand over Pakistanis wanted by the Indian side.

"We have been sent a list of 20 people wanted by India. If we are given evidence against those people, we will take action against them in Pakistan under our own laws," he said, adding "there is no question of handing over any Pakistani."

http://www1.china.org.cn/english/FR/25183.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

President Musharraf's policies was never to hand over Pakistanis!

 

[Zaidi Qasim]

Stop a** licking the dictator. Whatever you see in Pakistan today, is the direct result of this dictator's decade old policies of foolishness and egotastic.Zardari is present in Pakistan only because of this notarious NRO which was brought in by this dictator who now make money to provide the western world with view of the skewed mentality of army barracks.He should stop this nonsense , come back to face the trials in courts against him.

[wall] The illiteracy is a big problem or the root case of all problems. This can be observed among many members of this forum, who instead of discussion, show their attitudes/mother tongue by ''USING 3/4/5 OR 6 STAR ABUSIVE WORDS'' like you did. Please people, stop using abusive words in your comments and behave yourself else we can get good idea, where are you from.

[nawaz] [zardari] are the beneficiaries of NRO. Why they don't face all the cases in the courts after NRO. Why Nawaz never struggle for missing people, Afia Siddiqui instead he wants Power and enjoying zardari company. There are lot of people in this forum to support these corrupts but they don't want to listen others point of view, instead show their hate by their mother tongue using stars like abusive comments.

If Zardari leaves the Govt then the big looting Nawaz will be in (if his favorite 17 ammendmnt wish fulfills) and so on. There isn't a single one at least better than Musharraf, and if then please compare their Govt with Musharraf and I know, you can not!

Illiteracy may be a big problem, however, praising a well known dictator who abbrogated a constituion of a nation comes under treason.I wish if I could use some of the stronger words which are selected worldwide for those who chose to praise thugs and robbers.Unfortunately for this nation that instead of bringing the culprit to face the courts for mocking the nation and selling it cheap,some of the supporters of these scums arguing and hoping to bring back the dictator with fanfare.You are lucky that you are getting away with the comments of such nature while completely neglecting the nation who is suffering the aftermath of the problems a dictator left behind. Foremost is the NRO and its benefe
iciaries.Simple question should not have a complicated answer. Ask him to come to Pakistan , face the courts , get acquitted and then take part in the election process, then and only then you have a legit right to support a coward commando who is hiding under his master's backyard and drinking like a fish while passing comments on the problems of Pakistan for the benefit of western powers.

 

[GeoG]

GeoG
Please do not use this type of langauge....
Yes , he never handed over a single Pakistani to USA.....
That list you provided here is a claim and nothing more....This list is not a proof but a claim....
President Musharraf's policies was never to hand over Pakistanis!

Spartacus, Baigharti Main PhD
This list is official List supplied of Guantanamo Prisoners, with Prisoner Number and Date of Arrest.
This is not a claim, you ...

 

[Spartacus]

GeoG
Please do not use this type of langauge....
Yes , he never handed over a single Pakistani to USA.....
That list you provided here is a claim and nothing more....This list is not a proof but a claim....
President Musharraf's policies was never to hand over Pakistanis!

Spartacus, Baigharti Main PhD
This list is official List supplied of Guantanamo Prisoners, with Prisoner Number and Date of Arrest.
This is not a claim, you ...

1.Because you do not know how to discuss in polite way that is why this is last time that I am replying you ....

2.As you wrote that list provided by by Guantanamo prisoners....
If this list is also showing from where they have been caught and
if Musharraf handed over to them.....NO
3.There is no proof that MUSHARRAF handed over any Pakistani to USA.
President Musharraf never handed over Pakistanis. Al-Qaeda men belonging to different nationalities were handed over. They would have been extradited in any case. If we got free money against them - wise deal !

1- 31 Dec 2009: Lastly, Former president Gen Pervez Musharraf had also turned down a US request for extradition of Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, who was wanted in the murder of journalist Daniel Pearl.

http://www.pkmirror.com/2009/12/31/paki" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... s-says-fo/

2- In his address, Musharraf refused to hand over Pakistanis wanted by the Indian side.

"We have been sent a list of 20 people wanted by India. If we are given evidence against those people, we will take action against them in Pakistan under our own laws," he said, adding "there is no question of handing over any Pakistani."

http://www1.china.org.cn/english/FR/25183.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

President Musharraf's policies was never to hand over Pakistanis!

 

[rahat]

The agents of dictator Musharraf I.E. altaf terrorist and his party is the only one on the earth who still support Musharraf. it is the reason that they got billions in that period and still hoping his comeback.

Remember, now it is the tome to hang Musharraf and altaf togther publicily for their crimnes against Pakistan and nation.