Pakistan's Pride : Jf-17 Block II undergoes flight testing - Unveiled :) - Long Live Pakistan Army

modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Block 2 JF-17 makes first flight ahead of Block 3 improvements

Alan Warnes, Kamra, Pakistan - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
16 March 2015
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The first Block 2 JF-17 Thunder combat aircraft made its maiden flight from the Pakistan Aeronautical Company (PAC) facility at Kamra on 9 February.

The aircraft (serial number 2P01) made three more successful flights before being taken to the paint shop in mid-February. The test flights came as a boost as PAC continues to look for a first export customer for its platform.

Air Commodore Ahsan Rafiq, Deputy Chief Project Director (Operations) JF-17 and a former commanding officer of the JF-17 Test and Evaluation Unit, described the Block 2 version as "an upgraded Block 1 with an air-to-air refuelling (AAR) probe, enhanced oxygen system [to allow the pilot to stay in the air longer], and improved electronic countermeasures system (ECS)".

http://www.janes.com/article/49991/block-2-jf-17-makes-first-flight-ahead-of-block-3-improvements



 

bhaibarood

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
its cheap fighter plane but i wish it could eliminate the dependency of PAF on F-16s!!!
how many pak sold yet? its basic purpose was to sold it to cheap consumers
 

modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
It is ONLY cheap because of lower labour costs in Pakistan and china. Cheaper doesnt mean it is inferior.

The main purpose of this aircraft is to replace the aging "f-7" and other dassault planes .

The Block II and Block III are meant to replace the f-16's as well. Lets see how they come out :biggthumpup:

Egypt, saudi and argentina together with nigeria are interested in purchasing it. Negotiations are on going at the moment..


its cheap fighter plane but i wish it could eliminate the dependency of PAF on F-16s!!!
how many pak sold yet? its basic purpose was to sold it to cheap consumers
 

bhaibarood

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
It is ONLY cheap because of lower labour costs in Pakistan and china. Cheaper doesnt mean it is inferior.

The main purpose of this aircraft is to replace the aging "f-7" and other dassault planes .

The Block II and Block III are meant to replace the f-16's as well. Lets see how they come out :biggthumpup:

Egypt, saudi and argentina together with nigeria are interested in purchasing it. Negotiations are on going at the moment..

well the engine and all avionics is still 100% imported ! we are only assembling the parts from china and air complex pakistan!
I beg to differ that saudis will ever buy this leaving behind the F16s or F18s! its good effort but comparing it F 16s is out of question!
may be srilanka or nigeria will buy that plane!
 

modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Brother, work on an indiginous engine is also ongoing But that doesnt mean anything as their are several engine vendors out there. And engine and other weapons specifications can be fitted in the Block I and more so in the Block II formats as well.

Its not mere assembly, 40 % of the parts used are manufactured in Pakistan itself with the ability to manufacture the other 60 % too if he had the need to. Currently its cost effective to do in China, but the facilities to create this indiginously are 100 % available.

Just like saudia cannot trust the nuclear power behind the countries that manufacture the f-16 and f-18's, then for the same reason it ALSO doesnt want to be heavily dependant with their airforce loaded with western goods. Thats where the Jf-17's are very attractive.

However, the saudis have made their demands to be met with Jf-17's upgraded with western engines and more lethal french and european weapons to be mounted on the Jf-17's for the configurations they are asking for.

So at that price and with those components the Jf-17 seems like a pretty handsome option even for Saudi Arabia :biggthumpup:


well the engine and all avionics is still 100% imported ! we are only assembling the parts from china and air complex pakistan!
I beg to differ that saudis will ever buy this leaving behind the F16s or F18s! its good effort but comparing it F 16s is out of question!
may be srilanka or nigeria will buy that plane!
 

modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Thats the concept for block II jf- 17 ....the full specifications are not out yet. It may include stealth features too ...

How does this resemble the f-35 ??


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that doesnt look like jf-17, it looks like photoshop of f-35. dont recall them talking about adding stealth features to block 2 such as swept wings
 
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modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Pakistan Develop Stealth version of the JF-17 Thunder Block II





Although the JF-17 design was frozen after its 6th prototype, there was an informal understanding on further development of the block II stealthy version. Several designs of the stealthy JF-17 have since then been floated, like the one above. Now, there are reports coming of an MoU being officially signed between Pakistan and China to develop the much advanced block II version. The JF-17, despite seeing immense hindrance by India [and may be Russia now] is surprisingly seeing huge acceptance and appreciation from some very good Air forces of the world such as of Turkey and Egypt. In fact, there were also reports of India considering the JF-17 before 26/11.The new JF-17 block II could be an indication of Pakistan’s approval for its next (5th) generation fighter and this comes because India has already agreed to “pay for” the PAK-FA Russian 5th generation fighter, aimed at countering the American F-22 Raptor. India is also on papers wooing an indigenous [?] 5th generation fighter called the MCA (Medium Combat aircraft) but with India’s LCA now entering its 4th decade of prototyping, this seems not likely before 2040, a time when 6th generation fighters would already be flying. The block II of JF-17 could see deployment before 2020. This is reported to be an entirely full-stealth aircraft. Congratulations to the nation.

China-Pak in MoU to Develop Variant on JF-17 Thunder

China and Pakistan have reportedly signed a memorandum of understanding to develop a stealth version of a light-weight fighter aircraft being jointly produced by them to match MiG-21 warplane, a work horse of the Indian Air Force.JF-17 Thunder, also known as FC-1, being jointly built by Kamra-based Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) and Chengdu Aerospace Company (CAC) today made its first appearance at an international air show having flown in here after making refueling stops in Saudi Arabia and Turkey.The plane, which has been in development in one form or another since 1991, is a symbol of cooperation between China and Pakistan and the first assembled version brought out by the Kamra plant, delivered in November last year, according to ‘Show News,’ a special issue of defence journal Aviation Week for the Farnborough Air Show.“The two (countries) have also reportedly signed a memorandum of understanding to develop a stealth variant of the JF-17 Thunder,” it said.The journal said that Pakistan Air Force (PAK) is expected to acquire around 250 JF-17s, but this may be a split of 100 in the JF-17 configuration, being displayed at the air show here, and 150 of the stealth multi-role combat aircraft (MCRA) between 2015 and 2025.A Russian-built Klimov RD-93 engine — a specialised single-engine fighter variant of the Mig 29’s RS-33 powerplant, powers the plane. The first prototype of the warplane flew in 2003 and the first two Chinese-made versions were handed over to the PAF in March 2007.Show organisers said that the two JF-17 fighter planes would not fly as part of the air show. “The aircraft has not completed its full release to service in Pakistan,” the journal said, quoting a member of the flight control committee.“Although that full release is only month away, the PAF is also today in what is for them new territory. Farnborough is their very


that doesnt look like jf-17, it looks like photoshop of f-35. dont recall them talking about adding stealth features to block 2 such as swept wings
 

modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Apart from the double winglets there arent many similarities ....and you really cant compare specs until we find out more about the jf-17 block 2..:biggthumpup:

Vita min_C;3130931 said:
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Where do you want me to start? :)
 

Vitamin_C

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What about wings, fuselage and vertical stabilizers they all look unedited to me just the canopy and shape of intakes look Photoshopped. Anyway... well see when its unveiled because there is quite a few other pictures being speculated as well but all are Photoshopped and no official pictures so far.

Apart from the double winglets there arent many similarities ....and you really cant compare specs until we find out more about the jf-17 block 2..:biggthumpup:
 

aqibarain

Minister (2k+ posts)
All these latest aircrafts are locally menufactured in siasat.pk. no limit on how advanced ur plane can b...

Thanks to modren fakir aeronautical complex of siasat.pk
 

h.a.q.

MPA (400+ posts)
its cheap fighter plane but i wish it could eliminate the dependency of PAF on F-16s!!!
how many pak sold yet? its basic purpose was to sold it to cheap consumers
Guys seriously, the subcontinent myth of relying heavily western weapons is a fantasy!
I was other day look to purchase a PlayStation 4 for $560 with all extra modified add one! But in the end I purchased Xbox 360 for 1/4 of the price with 25 Gamez extra in its stockpile! Now in couple of months time I will get ps4 when & if they have over 200 games !
But for now just get by time being, cheap doesn't mean its crap! My friend, she is sad for buying a ps4, there are only couple of games in it! Not even the ones she wanted!!!
All famous ones aren't even out in that version.
As comparing to fighter one has to produce own weapons otherwise the heavy price for poor country won't even able to fly the damn plane if they purchased, the American they discontinue selling spare parts! Those f-16 are nothing but sitting junk pile of metal relying on spare even today for block 2 modified F-16's!
Cheap concept is ones own self in front of whites they think of all Indians as cheap in online datingbto watever, ever thought of that?
Pakistan shall add another 501 jf-17s to the forces.
 
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