Pakistan's AQ Khan: No Bangladesh if we had nuke

[only_truths]

You know that power transfer was not the reason for India's interference. It was the genocide and influx of refugees into India.

 

[gazoomartian]

Many patriotic Pakistanis have left Pakistan. But they will come back one day. Pakistan is not only a piece of land but an idea born on 27th of Ramadan like Quran. Both will live forever.

inshaAllah. Not only live but live with highest glory. Time is coming when dunya hamraey qadam chumegi. Bus zra thori si muhlat do. yeh Bhari Rat kya piddi aur kya piddi ka shorba. PM of India will be chained and shackled and brought to Islamabad and put on trial. Hopefully it happens in MY life time ,Ameen Ameen summah Ameen


aqa pbuh ki pesh goi kabhi ghalat ho sakti hai? sawal hi nahi paida hota.

 

[Abdul Allah]

Mukti Bhahini was not born when Sheikh Mujub-ur-Reman presented the six point formula. Mukti Bahini is the result of West Pakistan Army crack down on East Pakistanis (Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukti_Bahini)

What ever the reason may be. not discussing it right now. but

point remain there
Does that give right anyother country to support Mukti bahni of second country.

YES or NO
Note: answer can be(will be) used for future references

 

[Abdul Allah]

You know that power transfer was not the reason for India's interference. It was the genocide and influx of refugees into India.

does that give right to any other country to support Mukti bahani type of org?

 

[desicad]

does that give right to any other country to support Mukti bahani type of org?

Yes, stopping genocide is the right thing to do, more so when the victims are pouring as refugees in the country.

 

[sngilani]

This type of Bharkain is useless to mention because if we believe this logic then USSR should not be disintegrated because USSR has more nuclear weapons than Pakistan.

There is another quality called WISDOM which is not existing in Muslims that is why Muslims are behind the modern world even after the development of Nuclear know-how as it is borrowed from advanced nations. They are so ahead than Muslims in wisdom, in technology and development etc. that Muslims can never be able to reach even to their footprints.

Do'nt worry. Tide will turn one day. There is more muslim growth in Russia (16 million), USA, United Kingdom and China (22 million). You arer unlucky living in the land of gifted and cursing fellow muslims. Wisdom is not someones in born right.

 

[Rana Tahir Mahmood]

What you have said may be true. But do not generalize with Muslims with not having wisdom. Wisdom is an attribute of being human being belonging to all religions. Here I am not referring to nuclear technology. I know a lot of Muslims who have wisdom, the trouble is that other Muslims do not want to use them as mentors rather traitors.

Individual capability is not termed as wisdom. The overall representation of the individual capabilities in a unified manner is called Wisdom of a nation, which Muslims lack. My intention is not to blame anyone but to realize the Muslims fellows to come up with unified efforts and understand the non-Muslims strategy. But unfortunately in my life and past Muslims history I could not find such approach as the Muslims training is being done as s defeated nation but not as a leading nation.

 

[Rana Tahir Mahmood]

Very pathetic & Stupid argument by the way.......

Who did attack on USSR...............?

Rather USSR had attacked on Afghanistan.

On the other hand Pakistan was attacked by India and even according to Einstein, "Atomic Bomb will bring peace in world because any country who would have Atomic capability would be safe from foreign aggression."

And by the way Muslims have wisdom (apart from you), that's why AQ Khan & his team has developed Nukes from scratches indigenously. One can call Muslims as unlucky because most of Muslims are ruled by Zardari like rulers.

I think just to comment for commenting purpose is not enough. The visualization of a person does not fully envisage the intention of a writer. My understanding of Muslim WISDOM is the collective and a unified capability of a nation which produce a positive and developing results but not the acquired or borrowed technologies. What I explained in my post was that this Wisdom does not exist in Muslims as the training of Muslims is being made by the illiterate Mullahs who do not know even about Islam correctly. What we expect from the wisdom of such dwarf masses. I understand that few Muslims are not so backward but they are forced to follow the non-Muslims setup and producing very brilliant work as A.Q. Khan worked Overseas and have nice capability but when joined Pakistan what happened with him? He is so humiliated that no other Pakistani will dare to follow his footprint after seeing his "appreciation" by Pakistanis.

My fellow member, where I expressed that I have wisdom in me? I am also entangled in the Muslims chaotic phenomenon, which I intend to get out but no individual can produce the wisdom of a nation.

 

[Abdul Allah]

Yes, stopping genocide is the right thing to do, more so when the victims are pouring as refugees in the country.

So any country have that right?
or it is only when it is against a Muslim Country?

 

[Nice2MU]

I think just to comment for commenting purpose is not enough. The visualization of a person does not fully envisage the intention of a writer. My understanding of Muslim WISDOM is the collective and a unified capability of a nation which produce a positive and developing results but not the acquired or borrowed technologies. What I explained in my post was that this Wisdom does not exist in Muslims as the training of Muslims is being made by the illiterate Mullahs who do not know even about Islam correctly. What we expect from the wisdom of such dwarf masses. I understand that few Muslims are not so backward but they are forced to follow the non-Muslims setup and producing very brilliant work as A.Q. Khan worked Overseas and have nice capability but when joined Pakistan what happened with him? He is so humiliated that no other Pakistani will dare to follow his footprint after seeing his "appreciation" by Pakistanis.

My fellow member, where I expressed that I have wisdom in me? I am also entangled in the Muslims chaotic phenomenon, which I intend to get out but no individual can produce the wisdom of a nation.

Have the Muslim rulers provided any playing ground for the their civilian in which they can excel or where they can show their capabilities.........?

Can you show any renown university or technical institute in Muslim world......

Our rulers have no money for such things but they have a hell of money for Constructing High Buildings like "Al-Burj" in Dubai etc.

What did this stupid Qaddafi do for their citizens in 42 years....? Why did he sent students to European countries.? Why did he not build his own institutions and invite highly qualified teachers & researchers from all over the world to to teach his students & for research.

Man Wisdom is not an entity which is only restricted to Western or non-Muslims. There are many countries even in Europe, (some of them have joined to EU now,) they are worst than many Muslim countries but EU brought them in EU so that they can also come to the level of develop countries.

If you provide a proper playing fields and environment for everyone they can excel. You should give thumbs up to A.Q Khan and people like him, who studied abroad but bring that technology to their own country. If our rulers leave their lavish lives and spend money on human development (Education, Health, Trainings etc.) , then see what happens in next 10-20 years time.

So no need to blame Muslim Populations, blame our B*stard Rulers....whom greed for money does not finish.

 

[Rana Tahir Mahmood]

Have the Muslim rulers provided any playing ground for the their civilian in which they can excel or where they can show their capabilities.........?

Can you show any renown university or technical institute in Muslim world......

Our rulers have no money for such things but they have a hell of money for Constructing High Buildings like "Al-Burj" in Dubai etc.

What did this stupid Qaddafi do for their citizens in 42 years....? Why did he sent students to European countries.? Why did he not build his own institutions and invite highly qualified teachers & researchers from all over the world to to teach his students & for research.

Man Wisdom is not an entity which is only restricted to Western or non-Muslims. There are many countries even in Europe, (some of them have joined to EU now,) they are worst than many Muslim countries but EU brought them in EU so that they can also come to the level of develop countries.

If you provide a proper playing fields and environment for everyone they can excel. You should give thumbs up to A.Q Khan and people like him, who studied abroad but bring that technology to their own country. If our rulers leave their lavish lives and spend money on human development (Education, Health, Trainings etc.) , then see what happens in next 10-20 years time.

So no need to blame Muslim Populations, blame our B*stard Rulers....whom greed for money does not finish.

I feel that you did not get what I intend to convey through my comments. The things which you mentioned in your comments for those I am highlighting the reason for that adverse situation which we are facing now. If our Rulers will be sincere to the nation and follow the Islamic rules and keep the Muslims educated and provide them all sorts of facilities they are never less than these developed nations but Muslims Rulers priorities are different. They want to enjoy by themselves only on the sacrifice of the Muslims. They want to continue their luxuries on the cost of their common man's poor conditions. The WISDOM what I referred in my comments above which we do not see in Muslims's Rulers as they are driving forces in the Muslim community. What normal man can do nothing just to follow their Rulers.

I think my pain and your pain is same but the expressions may be in different style. I hope you do not mind my writing.

 

[Nice2MU]

I feel that you did not get what I intend to convey through my comments. The things which you mentioned in your comments for those I am highlighting the reason for that adverse situation which we are facing now. If our Rulers will be sincere to the nation and follow the Islamic rules and keep the Muslims educated and provide them all sorts of facilities they are never less than these developed nations but Muslims Rulers priorities are different. They want to enjoy by themselves only on the sacrifice of the Muslims. They want to continue their luxuries on the cost of their common man's poor conditions. The WISDOM what I referred in my comments above which we do not see in Muslims's Rulers as they are driving forces in the Muslim community. What normal man can do nothing just to follow their Rulers.

I think my pain and your pain is same but the expressions may be in different style. I hope you do not mind my writing.

Agreed bro!

 

[desicad]

So any country have that right?
or it is only when it is against a Muslim Country?

Religion is not the issue, here the genocide of muslims by muslims was stopped.
Recall US/NATO intervention to stop genocide in former Yogoslavia, basically western forces came to the rescue of muslims there.

 

[Abdul Allah]

Religion is not the issue, here the genocide of muslims by muslims was stopped.
Recall US/NATO intervention to stop genocide in former Yogoslavia, basically western forces came to the rescue of muslims there.

Tell me Do pakistan have right to use same tactics against India when the killed muslims in Gujrat?

tell me clearly

 

[desicad]

Tell me Do pakistan have right to use same tactics against India when the killed muslims in Gujrat?

tell me clearly

No......there was no genocide there, but communal riots.

 

[Abdul Allah]

No......there was no genocide there, but communal riots.

would you please describe genocide ?

for you a definition of genocide
The deliberate killing of a large group of people, esp. those of a particular ethnic group or nation.

Now will you still repeat what you said or rethink on your believes



So now again please tell me

Tell me Do pakistan have right to use same tactics against India when the killed muslims in Gujrat?

tell me clearly

 

[desicad]

would you please describe genocide ?

for you a definition of genocide
The deliberate killing of a large group of people, esp. those of a particular ethnic group or nation.

Now will you still repeat what you said or rethink on your believes



So now again please tell me

Tell me Do pakistan have right to use same tactics against India when the killed muslims in Gujrat?

tell me clearly

I standby what I posted earlier.
BTW deliberate killing by whom??????? and how large is the group of people????????
In case of riots you mentioned Army was called in and managed to quell the riots whereas in '71 army was given free hand to kill and rape millions at will and this continued for months together.
There is absolutely no comparision between the two unless of course you want to play some points scoring game. Do let me know if you are still confused.

 

[Abdul Allah]

I standby what I posted earlier.
BTW deliberate killing by whom??????? and how large is the group of people????????
In case of riots you mentioned Army was called in and managed to quell the riots whereas in '71 army was given free hand to kill and rape millions at will and this continued for months together.
There is absolutely no comparision between the two unless of course you want to play some points scoring game. Do let me know if you are still confused.

Oh come on
Rape of millions

you must be living in wonderland to believe this.

you must be living in a nut shell if you are not aware of the role of SO CALLED police and army in gujrat. THEY STAND STILL and Allow it to happen as they were not given order.

Tell me do pakistan have rights to do the same?

 

[desicad]

Oh come on
Rape of millions

you must be living in wonderland to believe this.

you must be living in a nut shell if you are not aware of the role of SO CALLED police and army in gujrat. THEY STAND STILL and Allow it to happen as they were not given order.

Tell me do pakistan have rights to do the same?

Both kill and rape were part of the same sentence so it gave you the chance to write back, but that is not what I meant.
Army is not state specific and were called in after the failure of the state police for whatever reasons, but the point is that it successfully managed to stop rioting.
First you learn correctly what genocide is then ask your question till that time there is no point in carrying this discussion any further.

 

[Abdul Allah]

Both kill and rape were part of the same sentence so it gave you the chance to write back, but that is not what I meant.
Army is not state specific and were called in after the failure of the state police for whatever reasons, but the point is that it successfully managed to stop rioting.
First you learn correctly what genocide is then ask your question till that time there is no point in carrying this discussion any further.

Even
if you want to say Killing of Millions
then i would say do you know how much "a million" is let alone MILLIONS