Pakistan, religion, secularism & tribalism

M Ali Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
http://www.viewpointonline.net/pakistans-identity-crisis2.html

Pakistans identity crisis

by Shafqat Aziz

Flawed and imaginary Arabized identity has become the biggest curse for Pakistani nation. The sickening ideologies emanated from this flawed identity are now posing grave threats to world peace and the very existence of the country itself


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These walls are funny. First you hate 'em, then you get used to 'em. Enough time passes, you get so depended on them. That's institutionalized. --Morgan Freeman as Red in Shawshank Redemption


Pakistan is the primary and worst victim of institutionalized falsehood. How ironic is the fact that the fabrication gurus had to concoct so-called Ideology of Pakistan long after the inception of Pakistan. The chauvinistic and undemocratic mindset, right from the beginning, had a realization the powers will have to be conceded to people if a genuine democracy takes root in newly emerged state.


To keep a tight grip on power and to keep the masses enslaved, a mind control strategy was sought through systematic and institutionalized indoctrination by the crooks at helm of the affairs, especially feudal cum politicians and civil bureaucracy. At that particular time, the military and mullah were dragged into game as junior partners, where the later was to act us paid propagandist to divert people from real to non-issues.


The unscrupulous feudal cum politicians had to rely on the muscle power of military while confronting the challenge of growing dissenting voices. Thus, it provided an opportunity to military establishment to take the plunge and modify its role from a junior partner to a big boss.


The civil and military establishments both resorted in appeasing the mullah to consolidate their illegitimate regimes. Consequently, the mullah exploited the situation to advance his own agenda. This agenda was (is) based on pan-Islamism and it was the very reason that the mullah had opposed the separation of the Sub-continent earlier. Furthermore, he deemed it a perfect opportunity to avenge his earlier defeats.


However, it was not only typical mullah who played religious cards to advance his agenda. It was a great irony of the history that Mohammad Ali Jinnah, the founding father of the nation and a man with all the secular credentials and liberal in life style resorted in religious rhetoric to popularize his movement for a separate Muslim state. The history repeated itself when Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, another man in modern outlook betrayed his progressive supporter and thus, opened hell gates of extreme religiosity, inflicted on the people by then military dictator Gen. Zia.


While refusing to learn a lesson from the separation of Bangladesh which was also a big blow to the notion that religion can be a binding force of diverse ethnic and cultural groups, the Pakistani establishment thus intensified its institutionalized efforts of carving out a flawed and concocted identity of the country as well as its people.


The establishment was desperate to paint a false identity fearing that the flourishing democracy on the other side of the border may ultimately devour their hegemonic rule. The power hungry establishment was also aware of the fact that the religious euphoria could not really cater to the needs of the all ethnic and cultural groups living in its territory.


Therefore, it was decided to instill this false identity by means of all sorts of coercion and manipulation, including enactment of discriminatory and draconian laws against the minorities and women, changing curricula with infusion of hate speeches, violence and extremely bigoted and intolerant worldview and patronizing violent extremist religious groups.


Besides, the state initiated ruthless Arabization (as newly found identity) of society on the cost of the Baloch, Sindhi, Pashtoon, Punjabi, Saraiki and other indigenous identities. The new imposed Arabized identity had some distinct features i.e. 1-detachment from South Asia and attachment with Middle East, 2-self-hatred (showing distain towards South Asian ancestry and obsessed efforts of tracing genealogy in Arabia, Central Asia or Iran) and love for foreign invaders of the past and sympathies with global jihadists of the present.


Today, this flawed and imaginary Arabized identity has become the biggest curse for Pakistani nation. The sickening ideologies emanated from this flawed identity are now posing grave threats to world peace and the very existence of the country itself. But the people of Pakistan are still not ready to determine who their real enemy is. They are totally oblivious of the history of Sub-continent prior to Arabian invasion on this soil led by Mohammad bin Qasim.


This flawed identity is one of the biggest contributors in widespread confusion in the society about the real enemy. The people of Pakistan, in general, have developed sympathies for Jihadist terrorists as they have a feeling of shared identity with them. Thus, the nation is fighting this battle half heartedly. This identity crisis has produced a population which is falling fast into hypocrisy and double standards.


The people of Pakistan want to emulate Arabs in every sphere of life but at other hand, their social ethos, family system and values all are deeply rooted in their South Asian identity and they have a strange love-hate relationship with this identity. The collective guilt of living immoral or un-Islamic (on South Asian ethos) lives is pushing them towards more religiosity and thus more isolation and self-hatred.


As a result of this identity crisis, deliberate disconnect with the past, twisted and biased history and being part of illusionary Umma, majority of the Pakistanis are living in a state of deep confusion and denial. Thus, they resort in supremacist religious ideologies and glorification of the invaders, just to soothe their bruised but inflated egos. This persistent state of denial, bigotry and confusion is resulting as irrational, extreme and violent behaviors.


The inability to comprehend the concepts of a nation state, modernity, equality and pluralism has made the perplexed Pakistani nation incompatible with modern world. Hence, the only areas where they are far ahead of other nations are massive corruption, extremism, violence and terrorism. The feature scenario also seems bleak as any critical thinking is immediately threatened with life. There is a serious and dire need to revive local (South Asian) identities and to return to a pluralist society which has a history of thousands of years in the Sub-continent.
 

M Ali Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Allah swt siasat pk k owner ko hidayat say nawazayin kis kisam k nazriyat k log apny aqaed ka parchaar
karrahay hain yahan ...

inn nazariyat sey kisi ko dhamki nahin dee jaari, wajib-ul-qatal nahin kaha ja raha, kafir nahin kaha jaraha, zulm o sitam nahin kia jaa raha, goliyon aur bombs sey hamla nahin kia jaa raha, aur na maara peeta ja raha hai.

agar itna logon k nazariyat sey dartey ho jo apni awaz uthana chahtey hain, jo chup nahin rehna chahtey, aur apni aqal istemal karna chahtey hain, tau ghar mein apney khirki darwazay band kar k beth jao

humari hidayat tau kya, apni hidayat bhi maang lia karo Allah sey, shayad Allah aap ka dil-o-dimaagh par jo taala hai, woh khol dey :P
 

SaadKnight

Senator (1k+ posts)
From Wikipedia:

Secularity (adjective form secular) is the state of being separate from religion.

I did not read what you wrote, because from the very 1st paragraph I sensed a Satan's voice, infact when I read [MENTION=7111]drkjke[/MENTION] reply to your text, my doubt became certainty. Islam gives all humans a complete way of life to be lead in all fields.

Anything that other than this is purely utterly completely SATANIC.
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Dear friends, if you have anything useful to say please be my guest but avoid personal remarks against each other.

I have created a special thread and there you are welcome to test your knowledge by explaining difficult questions about religion, deen and secularism. Whoever can do best in expressing his views will attract more support. We should settle debates through offering best evidences that we can come up with for our claims and not by an abuse contest. I think we are grown up human beings so we should behave as such.

regards and all the best.

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Humble Pakistani

Councller (250+ posts)
all a fantasy
which secular country or society is better than a pure islamic society?is india society better than ours?
if you are muslim than live in an islamic country
only ********** demand a secular country[/QUOTE

Please advise where in the world today we have pure Islamic Society. Can anyone define a Pure Islamic Society today? I believe any society based on just socio-economic policy is an Islamic Society. We tend to impose OUR version of the religion on everyone Do you call it an Islamic society?
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
surah 72

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Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
http://www.parwez.tv

http://www.aboutquran.com/ba/ba.htm



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Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The Quran a divine constitution for humnaity or a religious holy book?


1) I do not accept sectarian divide, to me islam is islam and that is it. You either accept it or reject it. People have natural right to opinions because according to the quran itself Allah has created them ignorant but capable of learning 16/78.

Because people are born ignorant and they themselves have to make effort to get information and learn and we grow from a child to adult and old so we are not capable of getting information all together at once nor have we necessities available and conflicts of interests come in the way ie some want others to learn and some do not so they top people from learning.

So difference of opinion is due to such like reasons therefore it is wrong to label each other anything unless anyone does things deliberately wrong of which we are well aware and can prove it as well.

2) The main thing is brain its senses and its body mechanism that help it interact within its environment. Since all people are same in this respect other than some unfortunate people who for some or other reason do not have any of these available to them. All normal people are biologically similar. Psychologically our brains function the same way so no difference is there either.

3) Why then there are differences between people? a)because we are at different stages of our growth biologically so our capability is not equal in getting information. A child has less information as compared to a grown up in the same environment. Likewise educated has more information as compared to uneducated. More educated is more informed than less educated. More powerful and wealthy people have more opportunities than less well off and weak people. These like are reasons for having differences in our information collection.

4) Besides information collection we have to look at our quality of information that we have collected as to how useful it is and also how capable we have made ourselves about putting the available information together. Unless we develop our capabilities, we are not going to be much useful even to ourselves never mind others. In other words practice makes us perfect our skills and develop our potential. A seed needs constant care to grow in to a tree. Things can go wrong at any stage of one's life.


5) After explaining the very basics you would realise that it is not up to individual to do all for himself because humans are interdependent creatures. This interdependence some time helps us develop and some times hinders us from developing. So life is a constant struggle for existence at very basic level and at higher level it is capability of man to influence nature ie at one stage we are dependent on nature hence we are product of nature ie we are creation of our own environment and at another level we are capable of controlling our environment to a great degree so we modify nature therefore nature becomes our product.


All this should explain that we are totally dependent upon two things our ability to think things through and the available information of which we have to make some sense.

Without our biological machine called brain any information is useless and without information we are as good as brain dead.


Information is of two kinds. The one which we learn through our senses by interacting in our given environment is fundamental information which helps us develop capability of understanding things and concepts. The other is information that we are unable to discover for ourselves ie divine revelation. The purpose of divine revelation is to inform us about things about which we will never know if no one told us about. Since our birth we hear about religions and scriptures so we are attracted to such information if we are intellectually developed to see if it tells us where we come from and for what purpose. When we are children these like thoughts do not bother us but as we grow and begin to make sense of things we come across thoughts about our real origin that is why we become interested in stories of God and prophets etc. In other words we realise that there is more to life than meets our eyes. If we did not realise this then we have not yet developed in to a human but are at animal stage of existence yet.

If we are lucky ones who have realised that we need further information then it is not going to come to us instead we will have to make effort for it to get it and study it. Since there are all sorts of interested parties therefore it is a big struggle to get information and then another big struggle to learn to put it together so that we come to know for sure we have what we needed.

This calls for a standard for judging the information whether it is useful or not for our purpose and whether we have put it together properly or not.



So we have brain and the quran. To ensure we have understood the quran properly we must have a set criterion that works and cannot be refuted. The quran is said to be complete statement of our creator. The question is, how do we know it is really what it claims to be?

Anyone who can define this standard is scholar of the quran and should be agreed with and he who cannot is not the scholar of the quran and one must not agree with him/her.

When we talk about islam, the quran is foundation of islam and if we do not understand the quran properly then all our claims are in vain and useless or even false.

In islam ultimate imaam is only and only quran and nothing else, not even the prophet ie he too must follow this imaam to prove his own prophet-hood.

The question now arises, is the quran word of God? If we say it is then the next question is, how do we prove that it is? This calls for definition of what proof is. Unless one knows what proof is one cannot demand proof nor if proof is given one will understand it.

The very definition of proof and the way of proving becomes set as criterion or standard or yardstick for proper understanding of the quran. That is because unless we understand the quran properly we cannot prove the quran is divine revelation. The very understanding of the quran that proves it word of Allah is the proper understanding of the quran. An explanation that works is the right explanation of something, so the explanation that explains the quran is word of God is the proper tafseer or interpretation of the quran and all other explanations and tafaseer should be left alone.

All this should leave one in no doubt that there is set standard for understanding the quran and one must follow only and only that standard.

What is this standard?




To see whether a statement is true or not, we must understand the very foundation upon which the whole this process for scrutiny is based.

It is for this reason truth is defined into categories eg absolute truth and the relative truth.

Absolute truth is that truth which has no relevance to anything else eg the universe exists whether we were here or not. Something that exists, exists whether anyone is there to witness it or not. If God exists then he exists regardless he created anything or not and whether there is anything else there to to witness that there is God or not.


Relative truth is that truth which is relative to something else. The witness and the witnessed are relative to each other therefore they matter for each other. In some way existence of one thing is important for the other. This is why relative truth matters but not absolute truth.

Now to be sure whether a claimed relative truth is true or not or to what degree it is true we categorise evidence on basis of how heavy or important it is.

So relative truth is a)self evident or b) proven truth.

Self evident truth is obvious to us and so we do not need others to prove it to us eg one person will not fight with other over anything that in front of both of them equally. The universe exists and that is as obvious to one as to other or anyone else. This is why it is called self evident truth. it is not subjective but objective ie not just a thought in one's own mind but an external reality.


The proven truth is either based upon reliable witness statement as proof or based on mere circumstantial evidence ie based upon clues with their best possible explanation.

All other claims are mere possibilities ie they are as likely to be true as they are likely to be false. We cannot tell one way or the other.

This is the way we judge all evidences throughout the world in all courts of law and we have no other way of knowing the truth about anything.


The quran is not self evident truth nor a circumstance based truth but a witness testimony which is either true or false. But how do we know the witness is a true witness or a false witness?

If the quran is true testimony of God then it has to be free of contradictions within itself as well as it must not contradict the real world realities because they are self evident truths.

As explained self evident truth cannot be contradicted by proven truth and circumstantial evidence based truth cannot contradict proven truth that is based upon reliable testimony of a witness.

Most people have no idea of these like rules therefore they mix up everything and turn the whole thing in to a nonsense.

It is a bit like trying to do a complex mathematical sum that contains roots, brackets as well as all functions ie plus, minus, multiply and divide. Unless one knows which of them to tackle first as a rule one can carry on fighting with numbers trying to do anything first and anything last. The result is obvious to those who know how to do things.


This should leave no doubt in our minds that unless the quran is interpreted correctly first anything we say about quran does not stand. We can argue till cows come home and nothing will be concluded sensibly.

This is why it is not a good idea to argue over things about which one oneself does not know how to argue and cannot understand the point of view of the other party. This is why having good understanding of the common ground is very important from which the arguments should be started for good or satisfactory end result.

Evolution theory is neither self evident fact nor a witness based reliable testimony it only a circumstantial evidence based explanation therefore it should not be treated other than what it is ie least reliable proof.

When a fact is not a self evident fact then we look for a witness to see if we have anyone who has seen this happening but if a fact is not witnessed by anyone either then we have only our own explanations to rely upon and that is the best we can come up with.

Since the quran is said to be word of God, the question is, what are the rules for understanding the quran so that we could scrutinize it properly to see if it really is what it claims to be?

There is no sense in trying to criticise the quran without knowing anything about it but this is the way people are mostly doing things which is not unexpected because humanity still has a lot to learn before it is able to properly examine the quran for its truth.

Through out the world only lawyer represent people in courts of law because people themselves have no idea how to fight their cases, all because they lack what is needed to fight legal battles. Even lawyers ask other lawyer to represent them because two minds are better than one. Doctors look for second opinions regarding their diagnoses so people need to realise these points.

Everyone has the right to cross examine the alleged testimony of God but each and every person has a duty to ensure one is not biased or ignorant of rules that are necessary for examining the testimony. The basis has to be just and fair verdict that is sufficient for one's own satisfaction at least.


So what are the rules for understanding the quran properly?





The quran is the divine constitution for mankind to organise around. It is a program or a divine road map for humanity to work hard according to it to turn this world in to a blissful garden in which flow rivers full of things that people need. If they do not educate themselves and work hard according to divine program or if they turn the world in to hell of their own making and suffer then they only have themselves to blame.

When the prophet was around himself he knew what islam was all about and that is how he was able to bring about a revolution based upon the quranic revelation.

Today we know very little about the quran because we do not know arabic or that even if we know arabic we lack knowledge that helps us understand the quran. Since quran is divine constitution one has to think what a constitution is and what it is for. This means having sense of ideologies, societies, politics, economics, cultures, systems, structures and practices etc etc. Because each field of knowledge has its own terminology and requires specific skills for understanding and doing things.

Mullahs do not have the required knowledge so they simply pass on the memorised texts of the quran and the hadith and whatever explanations they have heard from their teachers generation after generation.

As we know soon after the prophet muslims became disorganised and gradually quranic concept became less and less known as kings and mullahs took over the umaah. Over a period of time islam from constitution for organisation of humanity became mazhabi pooja paat for so called muslims and all the related nonsense and so deen was changed in to mazhab=religion and malukiyat=imperialism. The kings ruled muslims in the name of country and mullahs in the name of religion. Both used and abused people as we see it today ie people are still a football between ruling elite and their funded mullahs. One using and abusing people in the name secularism and democracy and the other in the name nonsense dogmas, make bleifs and superstition etc.

In last couple of centuries if you are well aware of indian muslim history you will come across a name syed ahmed khan, a person who started alighar muslim university in india. It was he who challenged mullahs on basis of rationality or superstition. he managed to defeat mullahs comprehensively. Mullahs however responded with their fatwa nonsense but it did not affect his rational stand. More and more muslims got educated his way and mullahs despite opening a lot of different fronts against him still stood no chance.


No sooner he died that another giant scholar of islam stood tall Muhammad Iqbal. He once again challenged mullahs' interpretation of islam but this challenge was whether islam was a deen or a mazhab like any other mazhab. He could not be opposed because he was right and he was able to prove he was right so all mullahs could do was rain down on him their fatwas.

He then sought support for his ideas from Muhammad Ali Jinnah. They had a long discussion and finally jinnah accepted the position of iqbal. Unfortunately iqbal died leaving jinnah in hands of ghulam ahmed parwez and after death of jinnah parwez was the only scholar of islam who kept alive the real concept of islam despite opposition from mullahs.

Later on we see modoodi coming round to the same idea that islam is not mazhab but a deen and he was followed by likes of dr tahir al qadri, de israr, ghamdi etc etc.

Today there is hardly any muslim scholars who does not accept islam as a deen but war of words is still there because none has really defined deen other than iqbal who separated quran as a constitution of islam and shariah its law according to the quran but based on mutual consultation of the ummah. He rejected malukiyat based fiqh as islamic law. This is what current fight is all about.

This fight is between muqallids and ghair muqallids as well as between muqallids of different schools of fiqh. Once people understand the quran properly this fight will end because there is no sense in it.

However to realise that there really is no sense in it the quran must be understood by each and every individual. This is going to take time but it will happen hopefully sooner rather than later.




Intellectual criticism is invalid if it is not based upon some rules that cannot be refuted. The rules then become conventions like mathematical formulas.

For example it is irrefutable fact that brain needs to be there to benefit from information. The active agent is not information but brain.

Likewise when there are two opposing statement they both cannot be true. Either one is false or both are false.

Likewise books of grammar were brought into being much later on in time than languages and same is true about dictionaries. The text of the quran is more reliable and one has to make sense of it to decide everything from the quran including the rules of grammar and meanings of words to make dictionaries.

It is unlikely that we will have ancient arabic literature from before the time of the quran because even the quran is reported to have been written on various scrap materials. Therefore may be those writing were written actually long after the quran from which people are trying to understand the quran.

Moreover the quran being sent by Allah would contain Allah's point of view not of human point of view necessarily here and there so words used by Allah would contain the sense Allah wanted to convey rather than what people believed. For example why Allah used word jinn is different from what people believed what jinns are. So when we interpret the quran we will take it as a true word therefore it ought to be interpreted in a way that does not contradict rationality. That is because anything that contradicts rationality cannot be true even if it is attributed to God. That is so because it negates importance of brain and information concept and the relationship between the two. This is why we must look for consistency between the quran and rationality. Jinns therefore could be anything but not what makes no sense rationally or if the idea contradicts reality.

The powers people attribute to saints, prophets, iblis, jinns etc have implications such as if jinns exist in the sense of super natural beings that can fly through out universe and are in contact with humans then obvious result is that what we know today about our universe would have been discovered long ago because jinn and saints would have told us how the earth looks like from space because jinns could travel in space and saint could see the universe on the palm of their hands.

Or jinns are said to be very naughty. Now if you leave a naughty kid in a room full of things and go away and then later come back and see the room all will be turned upside down. The same like strange things will be seen by all of us if that was the case with jinns. People who claim to have jinns and magic powers could empty banks and get women they wanted at will. They would not be sitting in streets corners collecting pennies from us the public. Look at how much governments spend on spying on each other and on defence against each other all this would become useless and redundant. Superpower would mean nothing.

So to make sense of a statement, one has to know what the statement is talking about so that one could make proper sense of it otherwise mere words are words and nothing more.

This is how knowing these rules helps one to decide if one is following the rules right way round or wrong way round or not at all.

So using one's brain to judge things is very important for getting to the right sense of information.

This is why one has to see supporting arguments for whatever ideas one proposes. It is not matter of just knowing the language a bit. One cannot become a doctor till one knows the terms involved and what exactly they mean. This is why we are not politicians or bankers or professionals etc etc till we master the language involved and be able to demonstrate the related practical skills. However pioneers are different people they do things first then invent terms to explain them because what they discover is not known before them therefore exact words do not exist but explanations can lead to new terms or labels.


The research of parwez sb on language is much superior than research of ghamdi sb because ghamdi sb has mastery of grammar but not of language development and its evolution based on critical analysis regarding sense of words.

If one just read the quran and became educated then it would have been easy for each and every molvi sb to be master in everything but they are not. Instead the bread and butter language they know, according to that they interpreted the quran and so instead of bringing out the sense the quran wanted to convey they conveyed their own understanding of it at the level of their own knowledge this is how they ended up covering up the quran with their own senseless explanations.

It is like you are giving a grade two child the work of grade ten and expect that he will be able to make sense of it.

This is why I say mullahs should either learn things and improve their knowledge about thing the quran talks about so that they could understand them or just leave interpretation to those who know what they are doing. Unfortunately, if mullahs do not do it, no one else does it either or that mullahs do not let others do things their way. This is why this ummah has to make a move to put such wrongs right or we are going to stay the way we are ie remain stuck in nonsense of mullahs.


I think our main problem is not trying to understand the quran in sense of a constitution for bringing about a good human society that is at ease within itself and the world out there.

unless we understand the quran properly ourselves, we cannot convince others to come and join us. so long as we leave the quran to mullahs to teach it to us, they will keep us involved in their halwa fights. the while we keep fighting over none issues, we are not left with any time to do what we need to be doing.

by following mullahs nonsense we are creating more and more enemies in the world rather than human brotherhood. How it is that the prophet was able to use only and only the quran and create within 14years of his prophetic life a human community, a community of strangers loving each other the most and we have not been able to do so for last so many centuries?

We need to rediscover that islam if we want a good life for ourselves and the rest of humanity.

I think we need to pay special attention to a few points.

1, islam is rational and not a mumbo jumbo of mullahs, a point made by sir syed ahmed khan very clearly a couple of centuries back. Still mullahs have problem with it but could not undo it. A challenge for the whole of ummah.

2, islam is deenillah=Allah's consitution for mankind to live by not a mazhab created by kings and their mullahs. Another point made by another great scholar of muslim ummah dr sir muhamamd iqbal. Mullahs did not like it but again they could not fight it to prove iqbal wrong.

3, quran is constitution for the ummah and all laws of islam are to be formed within limits set by the quran but by mutual consultation of the scholars of the ummah who are well aware of realities of real world situations and circumstances. This is why all imperialist mullah made laws in the name of islam must be discarded because they are based upon deliberate misinterpretations of the quran and sunnah and so misrepresent islam. Again this point was made by iqbal very clearly and mullahs could not oppose it. This is what was taken up by muhammad ali jinnah and ghulam ahmed parwez.

By now scholars of ummah have accepted, islam is rational though people still get involved in all sorts of superstition and nonsense due to their ignorance and due to mullahs taking advantage of them.

By now scholars have also accepted that islam is a deen and not a mazhab though mullahs still show there ignorance here and there wherever they can.

The sole point of fight remains definition of what constitutes shariah of islam. Is it the imperialist mullahs' version of islamic law or quranic version of islam law that was around in time of the prophet and is rediscovered by sir syed ahmed khan and iqbal, jinnah and parwez like people.

This fight needs to be really understood so that we could once and for all defeat imperialist priestly version of islam and its shariah that was brought about to justify wrongs that muslims kings and priests did to each other and outsiders in the name of islam.


This raises yet bigger question that if the quran is really the constitution of islam then why the quran does not talk like a constitution for ummah=nation building like any constitution of even an organisation or company or country?

The answer is that the quran does talk about being a divine constitution but imperialist mullahs have diverted our attention away from that in order to replace the divine constitution of ummah by their own petty constitutions to divide ummah and rule by their own self made laws that are against the quran.

In the quranic sense all things belong to Allah alone because he is sole sovereign of this kingdom of universe. Therefore none has the right to rule people the people even in the name of Allah. It is Allah's rule of law of that stands as rule to live by for all, regardless a prophet or an ordinary person. No double standards.

The names of surah are very important to understand because they carry clues as to what they are about. Likewise meanings of words need to be expanded to help people see what the quran is really saying in its text when looked at it in its own context which mullahs destroyed by bringing in concept of shane nazool.

These diversions of mullahs are so obvious for anyone who knows how world works and how countries are run and they know how to read the quran. Because you cannot understand the quran till you realise what the message is supposed to be about. It is revelation for the revolution to bring about a better world and that is what prophet showed us by his example. We have taken sunnah in the wrong sense are fighting over nonsense things leaving aside the real message of the quran, which is islam=peace in the world on basis of some conditions or term.

The quran is a divine constitution for humanity telling them to aim for peace=islam. With set out objectives for mankind like freedom, justice, fairness, compassion, brotherhood, progress and prosperity because unless these objectives or condition or terms are accepted and fulfilled peace in the world is impossible.

This is what the quran is challenging humanity for ie you cannot produce anything like the quran ie you cannot produce a quran like constitution that can tell you way to peace and prosperity.

The quran contains ideologies for social, political and economic systems, structures and practices. We are not supposed to take this book as a mumbo jumbo of mullahs like mullahs of bani israel turned their divine books in to mumbo jumbo make beliefs.

We need to raise our level of thinking if we want to benefit from information that quran contains for our guidance towards creating a proper human society.


I think it should be clear for all who can think for themselves that the quran is essentially a divine constitution for mankind to live by or nothing at all. If one takes the quran as divine message then it should be clear that Allah created all and so he has the right to advise what the house rules should be so that his set up things work properly to the satisfaction of all involved.

All we can do is see if they rationally make sense and benefit humanity or not. Only if allegedly heavenly revealed rules damage and destroy humanity that we can object and discard them otherwise if we knowingly and deliberately pushed them aside then we are going to land in serious troubles and remain in there till we repent and reform. That is what happens when silly kids do not listen to advice of their good parents who know how to be good parents and end up in all sorts of troubles.

If quran is divine constitution for humanity then we have no choice but to accept that it has to be one law for all ie no double standards. If that is the case then there is no room for different laws within the same state. No different house rules for different people in the same household. It makes no sense whatsoever that each person should live by his own law. If we let this happen then we cannot have unity nor cooperation to do anything whatsoever.

This point is absolutely vital to understand because without it one will never know what islam is all about. Islam is all about uniting humanity under one God, one prophet, one constitution, one ummah.

The quran contains many verses on topic of unity and condemns disunity between mankind with so many verses.

This means in islam we can only and only have one law for all who claim to be muslims at least and at the same time we must struggle to make nonmuslim brethren to understand this so that we could live to help each other make this world a better place by being better human beings.

Now one law means no room for enforcement of different fiqhs at the same time because if we accepted them then we cannot have one law therefore one ummah. Having difference of opinions on law is fine but running parallel laws in the same state at the same time is not possible.

The general idea is that whenever ummah decides to unite and live by islam all ummah can do is invite all its learned people to give there opinions as to what the state law should be in light of the quran and the sunnah about all matters of concern and whatever majority decides, the ummah should follow for as long as law works for betterment of ummah if need arises tyhe law should be changed as per situations and circumstances that face ummah or ummah finds itself in, to cope with.

Ummah must never let mullahs run away with their nonsense ideas of islamic laws that could strangle ummah in every way out of existence instead of making it progressive and prosperous and an example that other people admire and feel obliged to follow.

This was the main reason why paksitan was created ie to serve as an example of a successful islamic state for rest of humanity. Unfortunately as soon as pakistan came to being ruling elite and mullahs took over ummah and almost destroyed it. Mullahs damaged pakistan in the name of islam and rulers in the name of secularism. The most unfortunate things is we have not even realised yet how we have arrived at the brink of self destruction. It is as if we have been sleep walking in to nightmare after nightmare.

What I am explaining is not going to happen all of a sudden over night but if we really did try to understand things ourselves and tried passing on such information then hope is that over a period of time people will come round.

The main thing is not to follow ruling elite or their mullahs if we want to be in better health in future. This can only happen if we educate ourselves about quran. Ensuring that we interpret the quran as a divine constitution and not as religious mumbo jumbo that makes no sense.

The main thing to remember is that the quran was sent to educate people out of ignorance and superstition to help people become rational human beings to be able to analyse their problems and find their solutions with help of the quran. Again the quran is full of verses drawing our attention to explanantions of universal phenomena. The quran is all about demistifying things for people and not to turn things in to mysteries.



It is absolutely necessary that we come out of our sectarian caves and that is only possible through asking tough questions and looking for their equally worthy answer in the quran and the sunnah. Listening to nonsense of mullahs against each other is definitely not the answer.

There are plenty of videos on youtube etc wherein you will find mullahs of each sect condemning all mullahs of others. They tell people who come to them to not to go to their rival mullahs. We need to grow up and not to listen to such people because the quran condemns people who listen to people who stop them from finding the truth for themselves.

There are plenty of fatwas by sunnies against shias and vice versa.

plenty of fatwas by some sunnies against others and likewise by some shias against others.

We should not be part of their silly game, instead we should concentrate on the quran and the sunnah.

The question is, what is message of the quran and have we understood it properly?

According to the quran what is the prophetic mission?

The quran is message of Allah for each and every human being and the message is bring about a human society that is at ease within itself ie that is at peace within itself. The goal of islam is peace. To get peace between people, we need to know what they are fighting over and then put forth solutions that remove those problems which are causes of fightings and wars.

I am trying to raise awareness in us that quran is that book which has solutions for all human problem, there is no doubt about it. Why there is no doubt about it? Because if we read the quran in its proper context then we see problems diagnosed and solutions offered.

The question is, how did prophet succeed in bringing about a society that he did using only and only the quran?

It is because he educated people working hard day and night.

What education did he give them?

Read just the titles of surahs 1-9 ie AL FAATIHA, AL BAQARAH, AALI IMRAAN, AL NISAA, AL MAAIDAH, AL ANAAM, AL ARAAF, AL ANFAAL and AL TAUBAH.

I want you to try understanding the meanings of these words and what they represent. These all words are linked together for a very good reason. What are those reasons?

1, AL FAATIHA=divine proclamation for mankind through a divine messenger. Concentrate on word proclamation. This is opening message in which Allah introduces himself to mankind ie he is kind and merciful not a tyrant. Shows what kind of God people have who created them and the rest of universe and provided for all the provisions they will ever need. By this right he has the right to recommend house rules but he recommends them for good of his creatures like a good parent advises his children.

He then wants people to promise him that they will take his advice seriously and live only by his set up and program to stay out of trouble and save themselves from terrible consequences. It is like you tell your kid don't put your hand in fire you will get burnt. If your child ignores your advice and does exactly what he was told not to do then he will suffer for it.

Allah makes it clear that whatever you need or want anything all is told about in the quran, so whenever you have any problem look for its solution in the quran. All our prayers are answered in the quran already. The quran is final revelation by Allah for ever. This is why, there is no more revelation from Allah and so no more prophets. It is because if there is no more need for revelations then why we need any more prophets?

Allah created people, gave them his advice and freed them to do as they please and face consequences. He then tells how did people before us live and what happened to them ie what actions they took and what were the consequences of their actions.


2) AL BAQARAH=divine solutions for human problems and human problems are matters related to war and peace between mankind. Word BAQARAH= the sacred cow ie separation between God and world affairs ie kings ruling in the name of country and priests ruling in the name of their make beliefs. Kings and priests do not allow questioning of their authority. It happens when people talk bull ie they have no real basis for what they do. This is why they do not want anyone question them about anything they do in the name of God or country.

This surah is all about divine set up and advice and how people went against it and what happened to them and how people came together and what they accomplished. It is about why people went to wars and why they came to peace.

3) AALI IMRAAN= people and society ie this surah is all about people as individuals and as a society. Bad society of bani israel after they went off track and good society that was accomplished by prophet Abraham and people who followed him.

4) AL NISAA= human societies and administrations, this surah tells people how societies are formed and set up for management of resources and people.

5) AL MAAIDAH=divine constitution, this surah is about what a constitution is so that people understand it and base their administration upon it for proper management of their community and its resources.

6) AL ANAAM=progress and prosperity, when individuals come together and form a society or community and create a constitution and base upon it their administration then they either progress and prosper or end up destroyed all depends upon what kind of constitution they have based their society upon. Quran is divine constitution so no chnace of destruction if its followers base their community and administration upon it.

7) AL ARAAF= when a people work hard according to a set ultimate goal with terms and conditions and guidelines etc in their constitution, they either go up high or go down in ditch of of hell of their own making. The quran guaranties that its proper followers will reach heights of excellence.

8) AL ANFAAL= a properly organised society based upon a proper constitution when it works hard it makes progress and prospers but that it must produce surplus to stay safe even if any rainy days arrive due to some human error or mistake. Humans are not free of human error and no society is 100% free of bad apples within or outside enemies. So a society needs to be strong enough to take some strong hits and survive.

9) AL TAUBAH= general amnesty, a strong society does not make war on its own people nor outsiders but gives them opportunities to repent from their destructive and harmful aims and actions and reform.


Can one see what was the mission of the prophet according to the quran? This is the mission that was derailed by kings and their mullahs. This was the mission of hussain in karbala to show clearly for people who claimed to be muslims that islam observed by most people at the time was not real islam. Hussain was stopped from peaching this islam because it meant end of yazeediyat. When Moses preached this islam, chiefs of pharaoh became worried. When noah preached the chiefs and priests of his people became worried.

The prophet made people aware what God is and what humanity is and what are relationships between them ie between God and people and between people themselves, what peace is and why it is a necessity and how it can be achieved, what individuality is and why societies are needed, what management is supposed to be all about and why administrations are necessary, what constitution is and what purpose it ought to serve. How people make progress and prosper, what economic necessities are and how they should be guaranteed, what forgiveness is and why it is a necessity because you cannot build a society on revengefulness and stupidity.

He taught people how to make administrations accountable to people and people to administrations, how to terminate and install administrations safely. Can anyone see it in the quran you read? If not why not? It is because quran was masked with false interpretations making it book of war for looting and plundering and getting slave girls. So we need to wake up and not defend people who did all this in the name of God. Surahs 24,33,58,65 are very interesting when read in their own proper contexts. They are proof that the quran is divine constitution not a religious holy book.

MUJAHID KI AZAAN AUR WAALI BAAT MAMOOLI NAHIN HAI, MULLAH KI AZAAN KISI AUR MAQSAD KE LIYE HAI

Mullah followers pooja paat muslims cannot understand the true spirit of islam till they let go mullaiyat and start studying the quran as a divine constitution themselves. This is why the quran asks people to be thoughtful ie think think and think.

Do you my brethren not find it strange that you call quran the constitution of islam yet you or the mullahs cannot show anything from the quran that proves it is divine constitution?

It is because the king owned mullahs long time ago masked the terms used in the quran with their own make belief interpretations and that is how they misrepresented islam to public at large. Mass media is very effective even today to spread lies and so it was in times gone by ie kings and mullahs knew what they wanted so they set out and achieved it. Masses have been suffering ever since. Prophetic set up was brought down through conspiracies. Masses are easily misled and remain in that state till life gets really difficult for them to rise up.

So one need to know how revolutions come about. It is people who want something work for it trying to get support of people that matter and then things change in their direction. The prophetic mission is changing things for the betterment of humanity through waking up people and providing them with futuristic program based upon solid foundation of constitution.


So my advice to all of you is please take time and try to understand the quran yourselves. Don't be misled by mullahs in to thinking this person is rubbish and that person is rubbish. Ask mullahs hard questions so that you expose them for what they are.

We all need to have courage like sir syed, iqbal, jinnah and parwez to think and say what we think and be prepared to listen if anyone has better things to say than ourselves.

It is not a good thing to not listen to others. Even mullahs are not wrong in everything they say. It is up to ourselves how well we prepare ourselves to see right from wrong. Look after your own interest don't leave it to others.
 
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Why understanding islam properly is of fundamental importance?


1) It is necessary for all who wish to talk to realise that language itself is the only way to communicate one's thoughts. Thoughts only make sense when they are rational or logical. LOGIC=MANTAQ=way of communication=language=vehicle for communication. So if it is not logical it is not a communication because what you are trying to communicate or covey makes no sense to those to whom you communicate.

2)All things that happen are bound by divine laws=physical laws=natural laws. Since all things that happen according to some law regardless e know that law or not therefore they have explanation regardless we knopw that explanation or not.

3)MOJIZA=aqlan aajiz kar dene waali mantaqi daleel. We see lawyers doing that everyday in courts of law all over the world to prove or disprove each others claims and allegations. A claim is either proved or disproved only by one party making such a reasonable point that the other party cannot undo it by their reasoning and so one party stops the other in its tracks thereby proving or disproving a claim that they fight over. MOJIZA does not means anything that has nothing to do with aqal.

4)By rejecting aqal one denies being a human being because the only thing that really makes difference is man's ability to understand things beyond the level of animals and that is why man is able to change his environment to suit him at much greater scale than any animal. For the same reason Allah tells him to go and control the natural world and use it for the benefit of mankind. So if one denies being above animals then none would bother communicating with such an animal. People love such animals who are willing to learn to communicate with humans but not those who do not. Human babies are born ignorant 16/78 but are normally capable of learning and that is why even though they are just animals in human shape within several years of their life they can prove they are above animals. Therefore one denies oneself right of being heard if one wishes to remain an animal after being born by not learning thereby refusing to become a human being. This also shows we Allah calls some people animals or even worst.


5) Imperial mullahs were animals because they were disloyal to humanity on behest of some bully boys who wanted to have the whole human world under their dirty thumb. This is why they employed there dirty animals to destroy rule of Allah in the earth each time prophets of Allah installed it for the benefit of humanity. Emperors ruled the world by telling people through their priests that God only rules in the heaven not on the earth. Earth for to be rules by these scoundrels. This is how kings and mullahs invented state and religion concept and promoted it by full force of imperial power. This is why kings made laws for state affairs using name of God and mullahs made laws in the name of God for controlling private lives of people and both together then used and abused their people. This is why kings' islam is not real islam and mullahs' islam is not real islam either. It is because it inflicted harm and destruction upon individual as well as upon whole of humanity instead of leading them to peace, progress and prosperity.


6)It should leave one in no doubt that sir syed understood this point very well seeing how mullahs have turned muslims ummah into an ignorant people and therefore in to a dead nation or ummah. He was the only one who began to look for solutions after knowing what the problem was ie lack of proper education that makes people logical thinkers. Education is opposed by rulers always because when public become educated it becomes self aware and tries to understand its problems and realises their solutions. Since main problems are rulers regardless in form of kings, politicians or their mullahs so as soon as public becomes educated it can see its enemies and that means it is going to turn their rule upside down therefore they ensure in many different way that public remain illiterate or less educated. However it has doubt edge effect ie even though rulers succeed in making fool of their own people under them,others from outside may become aware of this weakness and therefore attack the people from outside and take over the land of these weaklings, killing all people or keep some as slaves and maids.

This is like a bad family where the ignorant father of the house tries to keep his wife and kids under his thumb. He does not want them to become clever than him because if they did he fears they will then not listen to him. The down side is that when these kids grow up they cannot compete with kids of the families that based their cooperation upon reasoning thing through together. So one can see if control is by rule of law or house keeping rules then all are bound by same laws and rules so everyone knows his cut out part in this that one has to play but full heartfelt cooperation is fundamental for this idea to succeed. However if control is to be by force then whenever a situation arises for doing anything some body will have to become controlling freak to make everyone do the same thing that the controlling freak wants regardless of reason or purpose. It is therefore clear that tension between these people will always run high. It is called alpha mentality.

It should be clear from these points that if islam=peace which it does than rule by kings and mullahs is not allowed in islam because in islam it has to be rule that gives humanity peace, progress and prosperity not harm and destruction.

This is why sir syed is right and all who oppose him are wrong when he takes stand in favour of rationality. One can also see why educated people who can think critically support sir syed's stand and why selfish, greedy, stupid people or ignorant support rulers and mullahs. The quran supports sir syed on rationality and opposes ruling elite and their mullahs due to their stupidity.

One must always remember that the divine constitution is supreme not any person be he a prophet of Allah, see 3/64,79 and 9/31 etc.

When any people want to form an organisation they let their related public know about it by communicating why they need to do that and how they going to do it. Once people are convinced by them and support them then they form organisation and if they need wider support then they spread information about this organisation by spreading its manifesto and constitution so that people who have similar ideas in mind come to them and expand the organisational activities. The quran tells us same thing about the prophets ie how they approached their people telling them they knows their problems and needs their support to solve them for them. This is how they gathered people around them and once they had sufficient supports they changed over the ruling from manmade constitutions to God sent constitutions which they taught to their people. Muslims today need to do the same thing but they need to be careful that they do not replace nonmuslim imperialism with muslim imperialism as they did in the past. It has to be khilaafate nabavi.

Islam is all about joining together under umbrela of the quran as the divine constitution, under the leadership of the final divine messenger who brought the quran and that is it. NO FIRQA NO MULLAH NO FASAAD. Again it was iqbal who realised mullahs were FASAAD KI JAD.


All mullah based interpretations of the quran are fundamentally anti quran therefore using them to defend islam is actually attacking islam. Quran is for peace, progress and prosperity of humanity but mullahs tell things to destroy it. My posts need to to be read carefully because I have tried to explain things for tyhose who wish to learn sense, however if anyone thinks one knows better then please lay down what you think islam is and let us benefit from what you know about islam and if you put forth solid explanation then it will be worth supporting, why not? Islam is based upon merit not force. Whoever talks better sense deserves our full support this is the only way forward not only for us muslims but the whole of humanity.


As far as quran is concern, it is based in rationality and on that basis it lays claims and points out evidences and backs them up with arguments to prove its claims. This is how the quran works. Perfectly scientific method. No mullahs nonsense and no mullah invented spiritual nonsense.

So called miraculous stories people are talking about could be explained other ways so that proves that these miracle stories are at least doubtful and therefore invalid claims. Also I explained already why any irrational claim is invalid but to make it more plain when something has rational explanation positively or negatively then there is no space in that case for doubt is you have proved the claim either true or false. Doubtful claims can only be such as cannot be proven either way. They are then just possibilities. To me it seems people take mullahs interpretation of islam without its critical examination. It is because people do not realise or not aware of what a proof is and what is difference between proof and evidence. Many people get confused in this because in dictionary meanings of proof and evidence are interchangeable, however in actual fact their meanings depend on the context in which these words are used. Proof is explanation of evident facts that one uses for proving a claim. For example, a witness sees someone shoot someone dead firing two shots. In court we have two parts one witness statement=evidence and the independent facts related to this incident. What police is going to do is match the gun with shooter through his finger prints on the gun and take out the bullets from the body of the dead person and through ballistics test show that bullets came from the gun of the shooter. So we have testimony of the witness and independently verified facts and we can see one thing matches the other so the case is proven ie this is how statements and facts come together or are brought together to turn them into a proof. Likewise The quran lays claims about this world, points out some evidences for observations and its explanation regarding those facts seems to fit perfectly thereby proving that it is word of Allah. Hope this helps to clarify the problem you have understanding the quran as a proof.

The quran is proof from Allah to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that it is from Allah.


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http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/21/24/default.htm
http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/22/3/default.htm
http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/22/8/default.htm
http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/27/64/default.htm
http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/37/157/default.htm
http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/46/4/default.htm
http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/52/34/default.htm
http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/52/38/default.htm

If you look into the quran there are many many verses about the quran being proof from Allah in various ways. It claims none can produce the constitution or guidance like the quran and anyone is welcome to debate on this issue and one will see that quran does prove true. It is because mullahs and peers etc wanted to make our people stupid they have invented concept of mazhab that that is how they turn the quran into mumbo jumbo. The reason they do this is because they want to rule people either as rulers and ruling elite or as their priests.

The quran tells us very clearly to be careful about clergy. In the quran we read 3/64,79 and 9/31

http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/3/64/default.htm
http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/3/79/default.htm
http://www.islamawakened.com//Quran/9/31/default.htm

The quran does not allow us even to take his prophet anything more than that. Humanity is a brotherhood not a master slave thing, for all people are equal under the divine constitution. Better people deserve our respect as such but nothing more than that.

It is because islam came to save man from slavery of man not to make them slaves of each other. If we look at video on youtube we can see how our people have lost our dignity by respecting our mullahs and peers in all sorts of wrong ways. It is particularly sad because these mullahs and peers do not stop people from doing these things which shows these people love seeing other people under their control.

Islam is not about pooja paat of Allah but about looking after each other in the name of Allah. This is why he revealed for us knowledge as to how to organise ourselves as one family and work hard to make this world a paradise for ourselves. He did this so that we shed no blood and do no harm to each other but to look after each other by working hard for each other not against each other.

Compare this concept of islam to mullahs' concept of islam. What has that islam given to humanity so far and what will it give it if we continue following that idea? So it is time to realise why we are not getting the results that Allah promised us because we have misinterpreted the quran and we ourselves can see that we have become zabaani kalaami musalmaan exactly as mullahs wanted us. to be. All because like Adam we did not listen to Allah's advice and instead blindly followed our mullahs and rulers. We have no sense of purpose of things, we just do them because we assume they are good regardless if they actually are or they are not.

It is due to this people have become dispossessed, weak and poor without any dignity, because for any man who wants to meet set challenges must stand up, not lie down. This how these mullahs and peers have make us lose our self respect and we lying in every tomb looking for help from the dead because the living have failed to help us and who made the living fail to help us these mullahs. Just as rulers created laws to control us for their ends so have mullahs made laws to control us for their ends. Ruler made laws to control us in the name of state and mullahs control us through making laws about our private lives thereby controlling our private lives. Thus they have states within states. This is what secularism all about to use and abuse masses by playing games with the ignorant public.

This is why our mullahs are funded even by nonmuslim states that benefit from stupidity of our people. We need to learn facts fast because time is running out. This is why understanding sir syed, iqbal, jinnah etc and creation of Pakistan is very, very important. If we do not wake up to what people are doing to us then may be there will not be Pakistan any more. Islam is such an ideology that has a lot of enemies both from outside as well as from inside and because Pakistan was created for showing the world what islamic working model looks like so everyone is worried they will lose economic based slavery.

Our poeple have little respect for sir syed, iqbal and jinnah because they do not know how clever these people were for the good of this ummah. Such people do not arise every day and that is why no such leader rose after them.

http://www.parwez.tv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK7k2_NFQzY&feature=related



Please think critically about islam if you are really interested in islam. You need to ask yourselves what is islam? Islam is a goal set by God for mankind to achieve or establish or accomplish in this world. The word itself simply means peace.

The quran is divine constitution of islam. It sets out terms and conditions for mankind to agree upon if they want or need peace. It is because without meeting these terms and conditions peace between people is impossible.

If anyone disagrees on this goal then he is challenged to come up with some other even better goal. If one does not accept working for peace and does not come with anything better than this then one is obviously looking for fights and wars. This is is why there is clear divide between those who see need for peace or want peace and those who do not and they are looking forward to opportunities or for creating opportunities for fights and wars. This is how then quran defines who is muslims and who is kaafir ie you are either with islam or you are against it.

The terms and conditions for peace are freedom of man from man ie none is master or slave of anyone else. Justice and fairness but based upon compassion and brotherly concern for each other. All this for ensuring human progress and prosperity so that all people could live in peace without envying each other or without animosity towards each other.

This is the context of the quran in which whole of the quran must be interpreted and if you do not then you are a trouble maker because you do not know context of the quran and you are just giving meanings to verses without really knowing the bigger picture. This is how kings and mullahs dismantled islamic mosaic soon after the prophet. From then on people went in lot of different ways and some to this day. All this because we do not read the quran nor try and look at what the world is. For proper understanding of the quran one must be a learned person who is aware of the world in which we all live.

The quran is rational at least on a few fundamental basis;

1)People have brains and they can reason.

2)Nothing can be understood without learning and becoming wise about it.

3)The quran itself points to reason through so many explanations about things in the natural world eg explains natural phenomena, processes and mechanisms.

4)The quran claims to be divine constitution and constitution has to be rational otherwise it is not a constitution.

5) The quran claims to be guidance and guidance has to be rational or it would make no sense to its readers whom it wants to guide.

6) The quran claims to be for all people so if people do not have any common ground or mechanism for understanding it or if they do not have common rules of wisdom then the quran will be useless book because there is no other way to communicate information between human beings.

7) The quran wants peaceful campaign for its spread not armed struggle. However it wants muslims to remain ready for that too because once islam starts spreading it is going to step on the foot of harmful and destructive people who are already looking for a reasons to start fights and wars. Unless muslims defend themselves and people who support them and those who are oppressed and suppressed then there will not be left any muslims to spread the message of islam. This is what dawa and jihad are all about. islam wants nothing less then peace, progress and prosperity of humanity and once that is established the mission is accomplished.

This should explain what was the reason for creation of pakistan ie just to show the world a working model of islam so that if people liked it they could do the same in their own countries.

The prophet of of islam showed the working model of islam but thanks to kings and mullahs that state was dismantled soon after him in the 3rd generation. However we are lucky that all pieces of that mosaic are still in our bag like a complete jigsaw puzzle and we need to sit and work on reconstructing that picture and then build our world once more on that model.

So time to concentrate on what the quran really says not what mullahs spread around to mask the quranic truth. All make beliefs therefore must be discarded because so long as we stick to our make beliefs we can never understand the quran and never discover actual islam that was established by the prophet.

By dismantling the working model of islam muslims were led into confusion because imperial powers are not easy to resist. The people who had imperial mindset remained hidden in time of the prophet but they kept on working as much as they could towards re-establishing imperialism after the prophet removed it for establishing islam and so when they got opportunities they jumped at them and did their best to destroy islam in life time of the prophet. In short imperialists have been working against divine rule always and they are at work even today. This is of vital importance to realise.

8) The quran is a very detailed book when it comes to explanations of its role as a nation building manual and a constitution. It explains what a campaign is, how to campaign, and what for and when people come together how to bind them into a properly organised community and set up administration for them from among them and then goes on to explain procedures regarding the organisation and administration and so on and so forth. The quran leaves out nothing essential in these matters because it knows very well that unless a community is well organised and had good administration to accomplish and maintain peace, progress and prosperity is impossible. This is why quran warns us, not to get slack in our knowledge of quran or in following what we learn because otherwise the whole things will fall apart and then it will not be easy to rebuilt all this.


Now one should go and compare what the quran teaches and what mullahs teach and what muslims follow and see if it truly represents islam anywhere in the world. If we continue taking that sense of islam as true and continue following that islam as we have been then what makes any of us think that we will get any different results than what we have been getting so far?

This should be enough to ring bells that we do need to have another good look at the quran and this time we must give it a look that it really deserves. It is because failing that will mean things will remain for masses as they have been ie slavery of masters.

This is why we must follow islam rationally as advised by sir syed and as a deen as advised by iqbal because these like people really had the right understanding of the quran in matters that really matter for the ummah.

No one rejected the hadith but yes all people reject those ahadith that they think are not ahadith of the prophet. They give their reasons for that and we should consider those and if they are found wrong then we will reject their assumptions regarding those reports. Otherwise sunnies do not accept shia hadith reports and shias do the same as regard sunni hadith reports. None of them are declared kaafir. Likewise ulema from sunnies and ulema from shias reject so many hadith reports even from within their own hadith books.

Moreover looking at tafaseer books one will see so many differences on so many levels regarding so many different things. If the prophet had explained the quran the way some people claim then again so many question arise eg why the differences? Where are all the explanations the prophet gave about all the verses? There is no answer for these like questions because many of these reports were invented to divert the quran under guidance of mullahs for their kings to find for them loop holes so that they could be free to use and abuse their own people and then use them to use and abuse other people in the name of God and islam.

These people were and still are responsible for making each other slaves, they created poverty for their own people and took away brotherhood and introduced animosity between their own people in order to further their own harmful and destructive personal interests. These kings gave mullahs backing to create nonsense personal laws in the name of islam and called it shariah and then used them to create state within state by getting control over private lives of individuals and that is what they are doing to date and this is what was responsible or was obstacle at the time of creation of pakistan because mullahs knew that if pakistan was created on basis of proper islam then they will losetheir power over private lives of individuals and so they will have to find some other way to earn their living. Even after creation of pakitanm ask yourselves, why there is no islamic law in pakistan? It is because of mullahs grip on jugular vein of people. They have psychologically damaged the ignorant public that they are afraid even to step outside their own doors without seeking permission of their mullahs.

This is why sir syed, iqbal, jinnah, parwez, etc etc cannot be paralleled by any of the mullahs of any sect and that can be very easily proven because mullahs and their followers can be very easily defeated in discussions and debates and that is why when they discuss and debate things they reply by danga fasaad=causing troubles and confusion. So that the end results of their discussions remain unknown and public remains confused. Also they discuss things that do not matter much for the ummah.

This explains why we are losing people to secularism, because true concept of islam is not known to people. People who want to know islam rationally are thrown out by mullahs because they cannot answer their questions and ignorant who follow mullahs they do not know much about anything. It is good enough for them that their mullahs tell them make halwah and we will pray over it and your dady, mummy, etc will be ok in their graves and hereafter. Or people are busy running after magic and jinns so that they get what they want or so their worldly problems are solves as per their wishes without really bothering to do what needs to be done ie people looking for a free ride=looking for something for nothing ignoring the God set universal laws that make the world go round.

No wonder people laugh at what we think islam is as a result of our ignorance about islam and we attribute that islam to the quran and Allah. What a shame but what can I say other than pray that Allah help us to use his guidance for its rightful purpose. So that we make our world a better place for all of us in his name so that we end up in even better life in hereafter.


This is why rational thought and critical examination of things is natural otherwise we would not learn from our mistakes and there will not be any point in learning or teaching. After all what is learning and teaching all about? In our childhood our parents approve or disapprove our words and deeds. This is criticism and teaching because the whole idea is based upon dos and don'ts and the reasons why do or why don't do things.

Coming to scriptures, all religious scriptures tell there followers to ensure they do right as per definition of scripture and not do wrongs as per definition of scriptures. In short without criticism development or even change is impossible.

Don't be critical is false teaching by false teachers to hide behind this cover their own weaknesses and falsehood so that others do not discover their harmful and destructive plots, motives, intentions and conspiracies.

It is because most of the people do not examine things carefully that they are made fools by their rulers be they politicians or their mullahs etc. Those nations that examine things develop faster. It is because through each others help individuals raise their level of thinking and once you can think better obviously you better yourself and your home, your country and your world.

It is shutting of our thought process that makes us animals or even worse.

If humanity was good at thinking it would not be as harmful and destructive for itself by today as it has been for thousands of generations. This harm and destruction to humanity will continue so long as people keep buried their heads in the sand playing silly games with each other.

The main reason we do not understand the quran is because we cannot yet think at the level the quran requires for its proper understanding or realisation. The quran is divine template for humanity and till people raise themselves to the level of understanding this road map, they can never install the quranic system or establish and accomplish it.

What the quran requires is not just one person's realisation but of each and everyone because without it human society cannot free itself of its problems. In short if you do not see the need for peace you are not going to work for it. If you do not see the need for a law then you are not going to legislate it or implement it even if law is already there. Just as it is need that is said to be mother of invention so it is realisation of need of peace that will help understand the quran for its real purpose in mind.

What it tells us is that we need more and more criticism of each and everything in the name of God so that only what stand criticism remains for us to consider. This is very, very important point I am raising. It is like you kill a bird for its meat and you keep taking away all the things from it that you consider rubbish till you are only left with meat that you want. This is how when we manage to tear away all falsehood the truth will become exposed to us. Likewise when all make beliefs in which the quran is wrapped are torn away one by one we will see what the quran is really all about. There are not many in the world who realise this truth about the quran. So people who know the quran they encourage that people criticise the quran more and more so that more and more clarifications come forth and make it more and more evident that it is the truth from God for the good of mankind.

Going the other way round people will keep on wrapping the quran in more and more false beliefs and so the truth will become more and more covered up in their falsehood and will therefore take more and more time to be rediscovered the while humanity suffers terribly the pain ie live a life in hell.

What I see is that deep down in ignorant muslim minds there is a fear that if people are allowed to criticise the quran then islam would be found out to be just another falsehood. This is how our ignorance causes us to undermine the real divine truth. We have so called false defenders= thekedaar of divine truth who are actually scared to find out that their make beliefs will prove false in light of the quran if people were allowed to go through with their critical studies of the quran. This is why they try their tricks for stopping discussion on the quran and islam.


It is beyond argument that religions are a conspiracy against divine rule by kings and today by ruling elite world wide. It is easy to keep people ignorant and to use and abuse them in the name of God. It is all a matter of redefining virtue. You waste time in ritualism so that you have no time to think just in case you think and find out what is really going on in this world of ours so all sorts of tactic are used to keep people engaged in wrong things instead of serious things that matter for humanity.


The question is, how did mullahs manage to misinterpret the quran? This is done through taking people away from reading the quran and from studying it ie other stories were invented and so people became interested in them instead of the quran because these stories told people how to become good human being by virtue of ritualism. This good became keeping with rituals and bad became not keeping up with rituals. You sit in isolation and say Allah Allah so many times sort of things. The more you do things like this the more you get near to God we are told instead what kind of world God wants people to create for themselves.

The meanings of words in the quran were given wrong context ie context of religion rather than constitution=deen. For example, take word ZOJUKA=it means your wife in one context but your colleague or fellow worker in another context.

Take words MAA MALAKAT AIMAANUKUM=your slaves and maids in one context ie in context of imperialism to justify it but people serving under your responsibility in another context eg in an administration based upon the quranic guidance.

Take human relationship words eg UMMI=biological mother in one context but mother the foundational base in another context eg mother or daughter organisation or administration or for that matter sister organisation or company or country.

So depends on in which context you read the quran you are bound to interpret it accordingly. By giving religious twist to the quranic context and moving people away from the quran mullahs succeeded in reprogramming muslims minds making people available for use and abuse of their kings thus brotherhood based upon humanity among muslims was destroyed and so muslims became master and slaves of each other instead. This is how they destroyed imperialism under the prphet but reinstated it after him even in their own states. So to reverse all this we must reinterpret the quran back to what it meant to be in time of the prophet having purpose of the quran in fore front of our minds.

This also explains and exposes the reality of invention of concept of shane nazool (=reason for revelation of odd verses or surahs) because why is it that we have shane nazool only about some of the verses rather than the whole of the qurtan? It is because mullahs wanted to twist the quran only in some places and not in others.


The text of the quran is very clear from its natural context. However that cannot be understood unless you have awareness as to what a constitution is upon which are founded or build nations. The quran is such a constitution around which the prophet of islam gathered people to bring about an ideological community. The quran is not a religious book at all because religion is creation of priestly classes on behest of kings so that God has nothing to do with ruling the earth. The earth belongs to kings not God and the quran opposes that and that is the reason the quran must be taken out. This is how mullahs deliberately misinterpreted the quran and misrepresented it to people so that kings could have things their way. Kings created parallel concepts as religions and spread them with full backing of imperial powers. This is clear if one is familiar with history of nations. Religion and state separation is not new at all rather it has been the case always. This is why even today ruling elite through out the world funds religious institutions because it benefits them that way. Billions of people in the world are living terrible lives yet huge masjids, muadrassas and churches and mandirs and temples etc attract all the cash. Conspiracies and wars are order of the day, why? Think! think! think!




Islam is a goal set by Allah for humanity and Allah challenges that humans cannot have any goal better than islam ie living for peace. Allah also sets forth terms and conditions in the quran which one has to accept for peace ie freedom, justice, fairness, compassion, brotherhood, progress and prosperity for mankind and challenges mankind that they cannot have any better terms and conditions for peace between themselves than these.

Allah also explains how to campaign for gathering humanity on this basis as a community and explains how to set up communities and administrations to accomplish true peace between mankind in the world so that humanity frees itself from internal strifes and gets on with the road map to progress and prosperity. Of course the quran tells us procedures and many other things about administrations and communities beside setup to peacefully changing over of administrations and to keep out nepotism by not employing family members and to stop corruption through community monitoring administrations and administration monitoring communities. All this because if you do not have goodset up then you cannot accomplish peace within or outside.

This is major miracle of the quran that even muslims do not talk about because they never studied the quran in this context instead they look at the quran as a book of miraculous stories and wait for saviours to come and save them not realising that they are told in the quran stories of the past people to learn how those ordinary people turned their bad situations round all by themselves with hard work based upon guidance of divine revelations for revolutions.

The quran gives humanity a great package but are people ready to make sense of it and use it? I am not that sure yet because most muslims I find read the quran to make jinn bhoot go away or try to get their ancestors forgiven for their sins beyond that quran hardy serves any purpose for them. This is obvious because I see no country actually using the quran as its actual constitution. It is because they have not yet even interpreted the quran as a divine constitution and that is because either they do not understand the quran or they do not want the quran because in their hearts is disease to dominate and enslave others. Sir syed told them to take quran seriously then iqbal told them the same thing jinnah even got them a country but we will not implement quran, why not? It is because rulers study in anti islam schools and universities and mullahs study in anti islam madrassas and daarul alooms.
 
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