Nepali Pandit ( Islam by sword)

armani

Minister (2k+ posts)
Nepali Pundit had posted couple of videos regarding Islam was spread by sword. That post does not exist anymore but I have a reply for him ;

1- Spain was ruled for 800 years by Muslims. Millions of non Muslims lived in Spain. They could have been converted to Islam by sword in those 800 years if wanted. Later on, along crusaders they wiped off every single Muslim in Spain. If Islam wanted Muslims to use sword those millions of Muslims would haven't been wiped off.
2- Arab land was ruled and still mostly ruled by Muslims since last 1500 years. Even today there are more than 14 million Arabs who are Christians by birth. If Islam wanted Muslims to use sword, they would been Muslim for centuries.
3- India had been ruled by Muslim for about 800 years. If Muslim wanted every single Hindu would have been converted to Islam by force. There wouldn't be 800 million Hindus in India today. (Nepali Pundit you yourself is the witness that Muslim did not force religion on your great grand parents or yourself would haven't been posting such biased videos)
4- Indonesia is the largest Muslim country in the world. Which Muslim army invaded Indonesia and converted them to Islam?
5- Malaysia is one of the most stable Muslim country with 55% of its population being Muslims. Which Muslim Army went to Malaysia and enforced Islam?
6- Nigeria, Chad, Burkina Faso, Kazakistan has more than half of its population being Muslims. If Islam is a religion of sword then the other half would have been converted to Islam for years.
7- The fastest growing religion in Europe and America is Islam. Which Muslim army is spreading Islam in Europe and America?
8- There is no sword of brutality my son. Yes Islam has a sword of intellect which has been mentioned in quran chapter 16 " Invite all of them to the way of your lord with wisdom; argue and reason with them with the ways that are best for creation". This is our sword and non Muslims are afraid of it.
9- Almost every single battle today is going in a Muslim country. Where Muslims are suppressed and being killed by non Muslims still Islam is spreading and you non Muslims
are afraid of us. This fear is not because of the sword of Islam but because of the Quran chap 61 " Allah has sent his messenger with truth and guidance so that it prevails over all the ways of life; Islam master them all".
10- I hope next time you will post a video of Hindus burning Muslims women and children in gujrat, of Jewish bombing innocent kids in Palestine, of Americans bloodshed in Iraq and Afghanistan.
 

arsh

Citizen
Please look at books and documentrry nepali pandit.The Muhammad "martin Lings' The 100
Documentry "Jeroselu the centre of civilization"prepared by jewshis and christian scholar
 

jawad_jd

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Armani ! Bro don't waste your energy in convincing nepali pandit ...

This guy is here to spread his propaganda ... He will keep doing this ...

I am noticing him from a long time ... He keeps on posting his foolish ideas now and then ...

nepali pandit should post these things on indian communities ... But no, he is always active here ...
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
@ pandit



----He does NOT want to learn but live by prejudice that's been plaguing poor hindus ever since the Moghuls took over :ugeek:..the funny thing is the videos he posted the guys in em are even acknowledging such text to be found in old and new testaments but were quick to sway the attention :roll: i guess they knew it would be quoting out of context :evil: ..robert spencer the biggest living bigot one could ever find.. :evil:
 

patriot

Minister (2k+ posts)
Mr. Nepali Pandit , Here is answer to the video you posted ,which is deleted now.
I dont understand why?? :?:
Mr. Serge Trifkovic rhetorically asks: Explain the continuity of violence from the earliest day of Islam, from the earliest days of the prophet and his immediate successors throughout the 13 centuries of recorded history.
Answer: Dear Sir, from the earliest day of Islam and the earliest days of the exalted prophet and his noble companions, five of whom were his immediate successors, the Commandment has been,
Hold back your hands unless war is imposed upon you. [4:77]
Fighting was allowed only in self-defense.
2:190 Fight in the cause of God those who wage war against you, but do not commit aggression. God does not love aggressors.

Every single battle the exalted prophet fought along with his noble companions, again, five of whom were his immediate successors, was in self-defense. The fact that they were fought around Madinah is sufficient proof of the defensive nature of these battles. The most famous Battles of Badr, Uhud, Ahzab, all took place around Madinah. Who attacked the peaceful and progressive State of Madinah? The Battle of Hunain is the only exception of distance, but then the exalted prophet and his companions were peacefully returning from Makkah in AH 8 (629 CE) and two tribes (Hawaazan and Thaqeef) unexpectedly attacked them only to get miserably defeated.

For the greatest benevolent Revolution in all history, in all the battles, the loss of life was minimal with 259 Muslims and 759 opponents getting slain, a total of 1,018. Not a single non-combatant, a child, a woman or the elderly was ever killed or harmed by Muslims.

13 Centuries? Sufficient it is to think of the greatest ever wars, WWI & WWII, fought in the Name of God between nations that called themselves Christian. Also, think of the longest ever HUNDRED YEARS WAR (French: Guerre de Cent Ans) which in fact lasted 116 years from 1337 to 1453 between France and Britain.

Edward Gibbon - History of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire London 1788:

. The greatest crime, the greatest sin of Mohammad in the eyes of the Christian West is that he did not allow himself to be slaughtered, to be crucified by his enemies. He only defended himself, his family and his followers; and finally vanquished his enemies. Mohammads success is the Christians gall of disappointment . He did not believe in any vicarious sacrifices for the sins of others.


Mr. Robert Spencer: Another very personable gentleman raises the issue that Islam and Islamic Civilization actually sanction the violence and that Islam mandates violence against the unbelievers.
Answer: Dear Sir, the foremost Source of Islamic Doctrine, Theology, Civilization and Law, Al-Quran, is right before us. Let us see what it has to say.
49:13 O Mankind! We have created you male and female, and have made you nations and tribes so that you may affectionately come to know one another. Certainly, the most honored among you, in the Sight of God, is the one who is best in conduct. God is Knower, Aware.
60:7 It may well be that God will bring about affection between you and those whom you now consider enemies. God is Able to do all things, and God is Forgiving, Merciful.
60:8 God does not forbid you from being kind, and fully equitable to those who do not fight you on account of Religion, and do not evict you from your homelands. God loves those who lead a just, balanced life.
5:2 O You who have chosen to be graced with belief! . Let not the hatred of a people lead you to transgression . Help one another in acts of collective benefit and righteousness, and do not help one another in deeds that hurt humanity and in creating a wedge between people. Be mindful of God. .
41:34 Since good and evil cannot be alike, repel evil with what is decent. Then he, between whom and you there was enmity, may become close friends.

Dear Sir, the exalted prophet said, If any non-Muslim is wronged in the Islamic State, I will personally plead on his/her behalf.


Ms Bat Yeor: The soft-spoken, elderly lady maintains that the Muslims want to impose all over the world the only religion, the only true religion, the only just religion which is Islam; and the suppression of all other religions in order to establish the Rule of Allah over the whole earth. This is a religious duty which binds the whole community. The Muslim Community is obliged to impose because they are obliged to obey the order of Allah and this is the desire of Allah as expressed in the Koranic Revelation.

Answer: Respected Madam, you make me feel good with the glad tiding that Muslims are united at least somewhere. You said, This is a religious duty which binds the whole community. I wish something were binding the Muslim Community together! Far from being united, Muslims today, because of forsaking the Quran, are divided into nearly 200 sects and one sect is busy fighting the other. But Allah prefers unity in diversity for all mankind and to that effect, He has given we humans free will. Allah ordains freedom of religion for all and He honors different kinds of temples and a variety of traditions and rites among people as you will find below.

Freedom of religion:
2:193 So, fight them (the religious oppressors) only until there is no more harassment, and religion may be adopted for the sake of God alone. And if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against those who replace peace with aggression.
2:256 There is absolutely no compulsion or coercion in Religion. The right direction has been made distinct from error. .
18:29 And proclaim, This is the truth from your Lord. Whoever accepts it let him accept it, and whoever rejects it, let him reject it. .

Unity in diversity:
5:48 . For each community among you We have appointed certain rites and a traced-out way. If God had willed, He could have made you all one single community. But He decided to let you test yourselves by what potentials He has granted you. So, outdo one another in doing good to the society..
Mankind is one community since all humans are equally worthy of honor.
17:70 Surely, We have conferred dignity on children of Adam (as a birth right, regardless of where the child is born) .

Sanctity of all places of worship:

22:40 (Allah is Able to help) Those who have been evicted from their homes unjustly, for no reason other than saying, Our Lord is God! For, if God had not enabled some people to repel others, monasteries, churches, synagogues, and Masjids, where the Name of God is oft mentioned, would have been destroyed. And God will certainly help those who help Him. God is Mighty, Powerful.

Dear Maam! I will be very grateful if you could please show me a single place where imposition (of religion) is the desire of Allah as expressed in the Quranic Revelation.


Bertrand Russell - History of Western Philosophy, London, 1948:
Our use of phrase The Dark ages to cover the period from 699 to 1,000 marks our undue concentration on Western Europe. From India to Spain, the brilliant civilization of Islam flourished. What was lost to Christendom at this time was not lost to civilization, but quite the contrary. To us it seems that West-European civilization is civilization, but this is a narrow view.

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe - Letter to Eckermann 1830, Sir Henry Elliotts collection, 1865:
The teachings of Islam can fail under no circumstances. With all our systems of culture and civilization, we cannot go beyond Islam and, as a matter of fact, no human mind can go beyond the Koran.

The video continues in the most amicable manner with all participants adopting an extremely friendly attitude, speaking in a heart winning manner and body language.

Mr. Abdullah Al-Araby: The bespectacled, very personable gentleman says, I believe that those terrorists that want to do harm to others are applying the true Islam that was practiced by Muhammad and his followers in the early stage of Islam.

Answer: Dear Sir, with all due respect, it appears that you have presented some very biased history of Islam, and that, without pointing out the source of your information. Almost all histories reiterate the fact that the exalted prophet, in his entire life, never even pricked any person with a needle.
Exception: A most staunch enemy, Umayyah bin Khalaf, had traveled all the way from Makkah along with a well armed soldiery of 3000 men for the Battle of Uhud near Madinah against greatly outnumbered Muslims. When he tried to attack the prophet, he only touched the man with his spear without wounding him in the least. Ibn Khalaf ran bewildered, screaming loud, so much so that his own friends taunted him for making a big deal out of nothing. He said, You do not know what I do. I know Im not injured but I also know that it was through the hand of Muhammad.
Dear Sir, the entire history will fail to give you a single example other than this of the exalted prophets extreme hostility against any human being.


Now, the Creed of Islam is shown on the video,

THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND MUHAMMAD IS HIS PROPHET

Or:

There is no god but the One True God, and Muhammad is His Messenger.


Mr. Robert Spencer: Muhammad is revered today as the perfect man in Islamic Theology, a model par excellence and the primary model of human behavior.


Answer: Respected Sir, if you were truly aware of the noble character of Muhammad (S), you would agree with the Quran and numerous great western minds that the exalted prophet was indeed a role model for all mankind. The Glorious Book presents his own life as witness to this truth and not a single person could deny it in his life-time. Can there be a better criterion of the nobility of character?


10:16 Say, . I have dwelt among you a whole lifetime before this. (You have always called me Al-Ameen, the trustworthy and Sadiq, the truthful). Will you not, then, use your reason?

68:4 (O Prophet) Indeed, you have sublime morals.

Sir, not even the worst enemies of the exalted prophet could challenge these statements of the Quran.


Alphonse de LaMartaine - Historie de la Turquie, Paris, 1854:
If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astonishing results are the three criteria of a human genius, who could dare compare any great man in history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, laws, and empires only. They founded, if anything at all, no more than material powers which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man moved not only armies, legislations, empires, peoples, dynasties, but millions of men in one-third of the then inhabited world; and more than that, he moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and the souls.
Reverend Bosworth Smith - Muhammad and Muhammadanism, London, 1874:
Head of the State as well as the Church, he was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without the Popes pretensions, and Caesar without the legions of Caesar, without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a police force, without a fixed revenue. If ever a man ruled by a right divine, it was Muhammad, for he had all the powers without their supports. He cared not for the dressings of power. The simplicity of his private life was in keeping with his public life.

Walid Shoebat: Well, Muhammad, the prophet of Islam wiped out all the Jews of Saudi Arabia. There were three tribes, Banu Nuzair, Banu Quraizah and Banu Qainqa. He ordered the beheading of the Jews of Banu Quraizah and the women being taken concubines. As soon as a child had pubic hair, he was beheaded. The Jewish population was either extradited or beheaded. The story of Rabiah Qanina is well recorded. Qanina was tortured by the order of the prophet himself. His eyes were put out. He was burned in order to confess where the Jewish Tribes were hiding their goods, their gold and silver, any kind of things. This is right from the Hadith. This inspired us as Palestinians on fighting Jihad against the Jews in Palestine.

Answer: Dear Sir, you have skipped the most authentic, first Source of Islam, the Quran, and jumped to Hadith and history written 250 to 350 years after the exalted prophet.
The oncoming video clip mentions Ibn Ishaq and Ibn Hisham.
Being an Arab, you must have read the originals and you should know quite well that even Ibn Ishaq d. 773 CE was half Jew and half Zoroastrian and his supposed biography of the prophet, even if ever written, was immediately lost. Imam Malik has called ibn Ishaq a big liar. Then more than half a century later Ibn Hisham d. 840 wrote ibn Ishaq on hearsay from Ziyad al-Bakai (Magian), Musailma Abrash (Jewish) and Hamid Razi (Magian). [Seerah Ibn Ishaq has been forged from ibn Hisham as late as 2000 CE under fictitious names.] Ibn Hishams strategy was most sinister. He would narrate some lines complimentary to the exalted prophet in order to establish credibility and then follow with derogatory lines and paragraphs. Also, there was Waqidi, as one of the narrators, a hard-boiled Magian and reputedly the biggest liar of the times. (Mazhabi Dastanain aur Unki Haqeeqat by Allama Habib Kandhalwi).

Now the video shows this clip:
AUTHORITATIVE ISLAMIC HISTORY [Quotes mine]
The Life of Muhammad by Ibn Ishaq d.773 CE [Siratur Rasool]

Edited by Abdul Malik Hisham d. 840 CE.
Now see the truly Authoritative Truth from the Quran.

33:26 Those People of the Scripture who allied with the clans (despite having a treaty with you), have been taken out from their forts and strongholds, and panic has struck their hearts. Some of them were killed in the battle and others were taken prisoners of war. [The Jewish Tribe, Bani Quraizah had violated the treaty, but another Jewish tribe, Bani Nadhir/Nuzair of Khyber had also been among the confederates]

47:4 There must be an act of kindness or ransom when the battle lays down its weapons. [8:37, 38:40. Free the captives as an act of kindness or ransom, such as in exchange for your men in their captivity. There is no third option. So, where is the beheading and where are the concubines?]

Surah 59. AL-Hashr The Gathering refers to the gathering of forces and peaceful exile in 5 Hijrah (627 CE) of the Jewish Tribe of Banu Nadhir/Nuzair near Madinah. They were banished from there after they had repeatedly violated the peace treaties they had signed with the exalted prophet. They kept joining hands with the Makkan idolaters, the hypocrites and some clans attempting to annihilate the believers. For their treachery, Banu Nadhir lost their citizenship and got exiled according to the treaty. They were allowed to take with them all movable property except weapons of war. With 600 camels laden with their belongings, the tribe was allowed to migrate peacefully to any place of their choosing and thereupon they relocated themselves in Syria.

59:2 He is the One Who evicted the disbelievers among the People of the Book from their homes at the first gathering (of the forces). You never thought that they would leave and they thought that their strongholds would defend them against God. But Gods requital came to them from directions they little expected, and caused fear in their hearts. So, they dismantled their dwellings with their own hands and at the hands of the believers. Learn a lesson, then, O You who are endowed with insight! [They dismantled their immovable property to prevent the believers from benefiting from it.]

59:3 And if God had not decreed banishment for them, He would have punished them harder in this world, yet for them is suffering of the fire in the life to come.

Did anyone challenge this Quranic truth in the life-time of the exalted prophet and his noble companions?

Again, where is the barbarism? Further, a gentleman like yourself should not have felt inspired by torture committed by anyone.

Question: Were little children growing pubic hair within a few weeks of the siege?

Dear Sir, you have not mentioned which Hadith reports the Rabiah Qanina atrocity. Absolutely none! You might have heard it in pastime. Please correct the name as Rabiah bin Kananah who was immediately sent to his family for promising non-violence.
See how a top western historian sums up the situation in one sentence:

H.N. Spalding - Civilization in the East and West:
Mohammad was the greatest Executive Officer for implementation of the Divine Will.

Mr. Nepali Padit , you posted only two clips but the film is more than one and half hour
long. It is most profesionally made Islam bashing film I've ever seen.
 
G

Guest

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nice post and very informative, thanks for posting
but one thing i want to say all pakistanies , just ignoor this @ nepali pandit and other more 2 r 3 like @dadarock and etc they dont come to learn any thing they just post for propaganda, and i just say about them they idiots , but for my muslim brothers i will say ,
tundiye bad e mukahlif say na ghbra aye uqaab
yae to chelti hae tujy uooncha urany key liye
 

alihbkable

MPA (400+ posts)
waqey-e-karbala
3 years in exile in shaib-e-abi-taalib
muakhaat-e-madina
sulaah hudaibiya

Or Khuda ki Qasam agar uss roz Ali(r.a) ki talwaar uth jati jab ahle makkah ne mere Rasool(s.a.w) k ghar ka gheyrao kiya tou kaffaar ki naslon ki naslain mita daitey. Magar mere Nabi(s.a.w) ne Yaar-e-Ghaar hazrat Siddique-e-Akbar(R.A) k sath jana pasand farmaya or kaffarr ko chhor diya or Ali(R.A) bhe hukum pe lait gaey. warna kehte k Ya Rasool Allah(s.a.w), mere baap k burhaape mein apko koi hath nai laga saka tou ye tou meri jawani hai. Ab kis mein jurrat k mere Aaqa(s.a.w) k aagay khara ho?

magar Lait gaey.

Tou Islam talwaar se nahin mere Nabi(s.a.w) or unke aashiquon k eesaar se phela hai.

subse bari misaal tou hai he tareekh mein Fataah-e-Makkah
 

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