Nationalism, Pateriotism leave it, O my beloved brothers of Pakistan

mannews66

Voter (50+ posts)
O my dear beloved Muslim of Pakistan. I love you because you pray to Allah (swt). I love you because you fast every year for one month. I love you because I think you are in love with Islam. We all know the famous hadith that the one who backbites against a muslim, it is as if he is eating flesh of his own brother, but maybe you have forgotten the hadith that one who calls for Asabiyah (nationalism, patriotism, seperatism, tribalism) it is as he has bitten the genitals of his father. (recorded in Misbhat al misabih)

and in a another similar naration,"Whoever fights under nationalistic banner, gets angry for it, calls for it or supports it, and for that gets killed then its a death of Jahilyah"


and in another narration "whoever honors himself with the honors of Jahilyah, then let him suck his father's penis, and don't shy out of saying it"


and in another narration "People must stop dignifying themselves by their ancestors, or they will be to Allah less than (Al-Jual) scraps the filth by its nose.".


So why is that people think that rejection of MQM of admitting they are Pakistani is "islamic" when everything they have done is "unislamic" and they like all other parties in Pakistan use islam for their own interests and why is one who calls himself "pakistani" considered a good patriot when he disobeys the Prophet (saw)????? We have a mind which records history more then just a few days or few interview but we know the history of MQM for decades and history of all the political parties for decades....

Similarly why are supporting "islamic" nationalism and those who call for it when we know that nationalist only worship the border by "sir" mortimar durand who attempted and partially succeeded to divide Pakistan. Yet these nationalists sometime don't even care for the whole of Pakistan, but they care for punjab at times and those in similar situation in Balochistan only care about the border of Balochistan.

Some give up even at provincial level, these nationalist only care about their family and moreover they even give up on half of their families and only care about their four walls and the children while they still live in them.

So do not put your trust in these supposed "islamic" speeches that call for "pakistanism".


 

alibhai

Councller (250+ posts)
Thanks for sharing these gems of Islam

O my dear beloved Muslim of Pakistan. I love you because you pray to Allah (swt). I love you because you fast every year for one month. I love you because I think you are in love with Islam. We all know the famous hadith that the one who backbites against a muslim, it is as if he is eating flesh of his own brother, but maybe you have forgotten the hadith that one who calls for Asabiyah (nationalism, patriotism, seperatism, tribalism) it is as he has bitten the genitals of his father. (recorded in Misbhat al misabih)

and in a another similar naration,"Whoever fights under nationalistic banner, gets angry for it, calls for it or supports it, and for that gets killed then its a death of Jahilyah"


and in another narration "whoever honors himself with the honors of Jahilyah, then let him suck his father's penis, and don't shy out of saying it"


and in another narration "People must stop dignifying themselves by their ancestors, or they will be to Allah less than (Al-Jual) scraps the filth by its nose.".
 

mannews66

Voter (50+ posts)
Thanks for sharing these gems of Islam

I have come across people from non muslim countries, (even one pakistani) who are born in muslim families, are themselves muslims yet don't even know how to clean themselves after call of nature. Brother, shyness is to avoid lewdness and avoiding shaytan from attacking you. Shyness is not to avoid the truth. That would be counter productive by any measurement. Truth is to be treated with honesty and seriousness so take a lesson from it because these are the words of the Prophet (saw) and he was not shy when he instructed the Companions that if they touch their genitals while bathing their ghusl (bath) is not accepted. Most people again do not know this. Shyness and gherah (manly jealousy) are to do with ones honour, and of protecting valuable things but they are not encourage in certain circumstances to hide the truth. I found from experience that people who have know honour and no gheerah suddenly become shy when one talks about Islam and this is trap of shaytan. Example of correct gheerah and shyness is to avoid looking at other women (doesn't matter how well or badly they are dressed if they are non mahram then avoid it to your ability).. The incorrect example of gheerah is when you tell someoone about Islam and suddenly a thousand excuses come out to avoid it, even to the point of accusing the messeger (saw) indirectly.. The words i have quoted are not mine, you can search in books of ahadith and such and find it yourself, you are accusing the Prophet Muhammad (saw) of not having any gheerah but he is the person with the most gheerah, more than me, or you, or us put together so think what don't you like about it. That it is bitter? well truth hurts, but does any parent tells his/her child not to take medicine just because it doesn't taste good?
 
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alibhai

Councller (250+ posts)
I had a different image of Mohammed(SAW) in my head. These sexually explicit and frankly disgusting images that form in mind from the words you are attributing to him are new to me. Maybe I have been taught false things about this religion. You a sound like you are really into the religion and knowledgable. Please tell us all more.
 

mannews66

Voter (50+ posts)
I hope you don't consider your parents sexually explicit after they have taught you about using the toilets. These are your own accusations and I have no part in it. I just didn't realise that there were people on this forum with a maturity of less than the children who are taught how to clean themselves. (sarcasm)...