Naqab (Veil) banned by western countries

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nation1857

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
commander said:
A few months ago, the Western countries made fun of the naqaab (Islamic Burqa/Veil).

France President Sarcozy had issued a ban on the Veil (Naqaab)

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And whats happening today??


NOW SEE BELOW


When they stopped few not to wear naqab now the Entire world is wearing naqaab

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THIS IS FROM ALLAH Alimighty

Allah hu Akbar

Is such a sudden attack of swine flu a coincidence?





Commander bhai i am :? can u explain what is diffrence btw Burqua and Medical mask s :? :?
may be ignorance ;)
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
@ nation

Commander bhai i am :? can u explain what is diffrence btw Burqua and Medical mask s :? :?
may be ignorance ;)


--Surely Ignorance and Incompetence :oops: in failing to understand the logic in the Similitude of covering of the face between niqab and mask :ugeek: :lol: :lol:..Analogy used is quite simple and Vivid 8-) 8-) :D :D..

--Covering of face for Medical reasons allowed and for Religious Purposes forbidden :ugeek: Hypocrisy at it's best :evil: :roll:
 
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commander

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Contra, nation you guys always object on Islamic values and traditions, will you answer me a question?

Can you stop Sikhs from wearing turban? If not why?
 

nation1857

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
commander said:
Contra, nation you guys always object on Islamic values and traditions, will you answer me a question?

Can you stop Sikhs from wearing turban? If not why?

commander bhai i have nothing against islam i am against people who fool others at name of islam
about burqua and turban's if u r not allow to wear it in europe then just get out of there. u have to respect there laws
it is simple when u go to any islamic country u r not allowed to eat during fasting hour at public places.
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
nation1857 said:
commander bhai i have nothing against islam i am against people who fool others at name of islam
about burqua and turban's if u r not allow to wear it in europe then just get out of there. u have to respect there laws
it is simple when u go to any islamic country u r not allowed to eat during fasting hour at public places.


--They stand for freedom as in "Freedom of Religion" in case you missed :roll:..This action itself goes against the freedom 8-) they try to spread and stand for,the motto of the whole post :ugeek: :ugeek: :)

--As far as Law goes,every Muslim is a law abiding citizen in these countries :ugeek: :D
 
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commander

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nation1857 said:
commander said:
Contra, nation you guys always object on Islamic values and traditions, will you answer me a question?

Can you stop Sikhs from wearing turban? If not why?

commander bhai i have nothing against islam i am against people who fool others at name of islam
about burqua and turban's if u r not allow to wear it in europe then just get out of there. u have to respect there laws
it is simple when u go to any islamic country u r not allowed to eat during fasting hour at public places.

Okay nation what if tomorrow EU passes a law that from now onwards no body is allowed to practice its religion except Christianity. Muslims are not allowed to go to the mosques and Hindus are not allowed to worship in mandirs. Will you get out from Europe? Will you respect there law?
If they are banning Muslims to wear veil than why they are not banning Sikhs from wearing turbans. Are they don't look different by wearing turban.
Every body has right to practice its religion. and no one can stop him from doing so. Respect other's values so that your values can be respected.
 

contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
commander said:
Okay nation what if tomorrow EU passes a law that from now onwards no body is allowed to practice its religion except Christianity. Muslims are not allowed to go to the mosques and Hindus are not allowed to worship in mandirs. Will you get out from Europe? Will you respect there law?
If they are banning Muslims to wear veil than why they are not banning Sikhs from wearing turbans. Are they don't look different by wearing turban.
Every body has right to practice its religion. and no one can stop him from doing so. Respect other's values so that your values can be respected.

Commander bhai,
1. In Saudi Arabia, there are no churches or temples. Non Muslims are not allowed to worship in open.
What have you done to help your non muslim brothers of Saudi Arabia?

2. Hypocrisy of musims is not hidden from anyone. Veil is a means of subjugating women, veil is against "Human Rights".

3. Read this thread: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=5614&hilit=+France

4. In France, even the Sikh turbans are banned.
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
contra said:
1. In Saudi Arabia, there are no churches or temples. Non Muslims are not allowed to worship in open.
What have you done to help your non muslim brothers of Saudi Arabia?

2. Hypocrisy of musims is not hidden from anyone. Veil is a means of subjugating women, veil is against "Human Rights".



---Veil is against human rights :shock: :shock: ..do not stoop to the dumbest of the levels as if not already,are you Purposely acting such so we would come to believe that you are truly in an Evolving process and consider you a Chimp :lol: ...Your disgust,ignorance and disorientation at full swing here,this is what it is :ugeek:

--Women is an Exhibition of beauty,and beauty has to be guarded by the Evil glimpses of all the men,It protects women,gives them a sense of Protection :ugeek: ..Onlookers would always stare with their eyes popping out to a naked,uncovered and Immodestly dressed women :oops: :oops: not the other way around :ugeek:


--Islam has given so Eloquent Dress Codes for Women :ugeek: ..Amazing, when they adorn their Garb they reflect chastity from head to toe :ugeek: 8-)


---We're talking here "West" who stands out to be the torchbearer of Freedom 8-) so Snatching Rights of any Citizen of their country goes against the very Spirit of Freedom. :ugeek:

--like i said you need a break,and head to Cancun to unleash all the evil within you :P :P ...I sometimes wonder you may get a Cardiac Arrest with all the Hate and Anguish you harbor....Again i can not even comprehend how it feels to be in a lesser than a minority as in your case :ugeek: :lol: :lol:
 
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commander

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Veil is a means of subjugating women, veil is against "Human Rights".

Then what is this?

2.3 RESTRICTIONS ON WOMEN

2.3.1 No Property

Women and Sudras can, in the Aryan-Vaishnava system, have no property:

A wife, a son, and a slave, these three are declared to have no property; the wealth which they earn is (acquired) for him to whom they belong. A Brahmana may confidently seize the goods of (his) Sudra (slave); for, as that (slave) can have no property, his master may take his possessions. [Manu VIII.416-417]

Dress and Veiling

Aryan women had to wear a face-veil when going out. As usual, several observers, seeing Arab women veiled, assumed it must be due to Muslim "contamination."They are not aware that Muslim ladies who do this do it as an act of modesty, and are ignorant of Indian scriptures. Sanskrit literature mentions the

The practice of using veils by women, particularly in well-to-do families, was in vogue. Prabhakaravardhanas daughter Rajyasri put on a veil when she met her husband, the Maukhari Grahavarman of Kanauj, for eh first time. It is known from Vacaspati Misra (9C AD) that women in good families observed the purdah system and did not appear in public without veils ... However, Dhoyi, the author of the 12 C poetical work the Pavanaduta, relates that the women of Vijayapura (in Bengal) did not observe the purdah system [CHI Vol II #37 p.595 # 37 `Some aspects of the position of women in Ancient India DCGanguly p.594 ff]


"Harshas [1099-1101] [Lohara dynasty] coins [depict] a half cross-legged goddess [and] a veil appears on the head"[GuptaCoins p.39]

"Gangayadevas [one of the Kalachuri rulers of Dahala, the country around Jabalpur in MP] (1019-1042AD) coins ... the female is shown as having a veil on her head which hangs down to the shoulders and upper arms"[GuptaCoins p.39]

"Many of the female figures on the gold coins, like the sculpture and literature of the [Gupta] age, do reflect a somewhat new idea of feminine beauty which we now call classical [thinner and more slender]"[GuptaCoins 21]

It is now generally accepted that the purdah ( seclusion and veiling) was existent in India since ancient Aryan times. [Altekar 167-70] [Indra 73] [Shamram 24] [Ojha-Cutlture 66-67] In fact, certain high-class women refused to entertain strangers [Altekar 175] [Nand 5-6] It seems that the bodice was imported by Muslims :

"In several parts of India ... bodices [are worn by ladies under the cloth] ... this, i am told, is a modern innovation, and borrowed from the Mohamedans."[DuBois p.341]

2.3.3 Dowry

The Vedas prescribe that a dowry be given by the brides family to the groom. The Rig Veda states that cows and gifts given by the father of the bride to the daughter accompanied the brides procession [Rg Ved X.85] [Apte 12]. Kakshivat says he became rich by the father-in-law giving him 10 chariots and maids and 1060 cows during the marriage ceremony [Rg Ved I.126] [Apte 13]. The ancient custom of kanyadan, where the father presented his daughter with jewelry and clothes at the time of her marriage, and vardakshina where the father presented the groom with kith and kind are, in essence the dowry system.

2.3.4 Staying Alone

It may be thought that only the absence of the husband could temporarily alleviate the condition of Aryan women. Alas, even then she was under constant suspicion. To prevent nightly intrigues, she cannot even sleep alone:

"whilst her husband is absent, she shall sleep with one of her female relatives and not alone"[Vasishtas Padma Purana]

"Husbands are not supposed to have intercourse with a wife who bore only daughters."[Hindu Law and Custom, p.145]

2.3.5 Going Out and Education

Women and Sudras were declared to be unfit for study of their own sacred texts:

"And as women, Sudras and the inferior members of the twice-borne classes were unfitted for hearing the Veda, and were infatuated in desiring the blessings, arising from the ceremonies, the muni, with a vision to their felicity, in his kindness composed the narrative called the Mahabharata."[Bhag.Pur. I.4.25] [Muir III,p.42]

Also Madhava Acharya stated:

"They [women and Sudras] are debarred ... from being competent students of the Veda"[Vedarthaprakasha of Madhava Acharyya on the Taittriya Yajur Veda, quoted in Muir III,p.66]

2.3.6 No Divorce

Divorce was not permitted.

2.3.7 No Remarriage

Even if the wife ran away from the harsh husband, she could never get remarried as long as she is in the confines of Hindu tradition.

There is lot to share with you guys but i am ending it here
 

contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
commander bhai,
Exactly my point. Whatever is written in Hindu ancient law code, which is against women, is wrong, false, stupid and i condemn it.
This code of law will never never be followed again!!!!
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
contra said:
commander bhai,
Exactly my point. Whatever is written in Hindu ancient law code, which is against women, is wrong, false, stupid and i condemn it.
This code of law will never never be followed again!!!!


---Why bother then to even perceive something that goes over your head 8-) :ugeek: ,,,Just like in Science when your brain comes to a stand still when trying to break logical barriers :P :ugeek: :lol:
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
--You seem to be getting quite agitated and stressed out here 8-) 8-),,i have disabled that feature for all 8-) 8-) i want you to come open on this forum and throw in your filth and show all your ugly face than play Hypocrite by pm :ugeek: :ugeek: 8-)
 

nation1857

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
contra said:
hey! taul bhai, Why have you disabled the PM feature? (Private Message)
contra bhai u don't have to pm taul just ignore him. or just send munna bahi japki ki khuda usee theek kar de ;)

taul bahi ek meri tarf se bhi munna bhai japki sweekar karo..... ;)
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
nation1857 said:
contra bhai u don't have to pm taul just ignore him. or just send munna bahi japki ki khuda usee theek kar de ;)

taul bahi ek meri tarf se bhi munna bhai japki sweekar karo..... ;)


---Quite funny you say that :P :P,,your beloved contra hates word khuda" :roll: :P ,so please do not make him mad :mrgreen:
 

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