Muslims are the victims of West's & Zionist terrorism

Saladin A

Minister (2k+ posts)
The fact of the matter is the Muslims all over the world are the victim of Western and Zionist Jewish barbaric atrocities and now joined by the India. How many millions of innocent Muslim men, women and children have been killed, murdered and massacred by the Christian USA, Zionist Jewish Israel, and Hindu India and their lackeys since the end of WWR11?

The worlds first religion-based genocide in the 21st century occurred in Indian State of Gujarat , where in 2002 more than 2,500 Indian Muslims were burned alive in riots by Hindu terror groups, according to a hearing conducted by the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom on communal riots in India. Since the start of this century, almost nine years ago, India has seen the targeted murder of over 600 Christians, most of them in riots this summer, not to mention the genocide of Indian Muslims. Hindu terror groups, like Shiv Sena, Bajrang Dal, and the Durga Vahini have established militant training camps across India where members are indoctrinated against other religions and Indian Hindu supremacy is emphasized. Recently, the Durga Vahini has proudly distributed pictures of its female members wearing the sari and brandishing guns at an indoctrination camp. In Kashmir, the Indian government and military are recruiting poor Hindu peasants into Hindu militias armed to confront Muslim majoritys demand for an end to Indian occupation.

The September 11, 2001 terrorist acts are against the teachings of Islam. I would like to remind the readers that after all, it was the Christian Americans who dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki on 6 August 1945 killing half a million innocent civilians. If the American can justify dropping atomic bombs on Japan when it had already surrendered, why then the Palestinians cannot fight with their armour which is their body? And, that the Dresden bombings (of World War 2) were European Christian terrorism; or that barbaric attacks on the abjectly poor Palestinians in Gaza and the West bank are Jewish terrorism. This is true that Judaism and Christianity teach peace and love but to suggest that Western political activities mirror those teachings is nothing short of ludicrous mendacity. It is an undeniable historical fact that the religion that has mastered the art of killing; it is Christianity. The history of intolerance in Christianity dwarfs anything that the Mongols committed against the humanity. The fact of the matter is that the crusader of 21st century, President George W Bush, behaved like the European Christians of July 1099 who conquered Jerusalem and killed over 70,000 in one day and turned the city into a charnel house. It makes the massacre of September 11, 2001 and those followed as mentioned above look puny in comparison. Yet in Europe scholars and monks hailed this as the greatest event in world history.

President G W Bush used power as if he ruled a jungle and applied his jungle laws where nothing functions but dominance of a rogue leader of the pack who demands obedience and submission and enforces its authority by violent methods. In any case his philosophy of new Imperialism was thrust upon only on the Muslim world. It was a redefined and its remodelled version was in the disguise of democracy, freedom, liberty etc (made respectable) but is as old as we know that it is nothing but greedy, ugly and perverse capitalism.

Islamic countries are razed to ground for their greedy contractors in waiting to battle for contracts to reconstruct what their governments destructed in the first place. Poor countries that are geopolitical of strategic value to Empire, or have a "market" of any size, or infrastructure that can be privatized, natural resources of value become military targets. Those with the greatest reserves of natural wealth are most at risk. Unless they surrender their resources willingly to their American and Europeans corporate machine, civil unrest is plotted or war is waged to occupy. Is there any choice left for the Muslims? This brutal blueprint has been used in Iraq and Afghanistan and for their next target in sight is Iran which is oil rich. Now, they want to destroy Pakistan because it has tremendous potentials and a nuclear power that challenges their political hegemony in the region.

It goes without saying that every war that new western imperial powers are waging becomes a just War. It is disgusting, vulgar and their abominable desire is to subdue the Muslim world so that the super powers get richer. It is pure and simple ugly state-terrorism at work but the ignominy is that with the help of Zionist control media, they lie so much to deceive and distort the real truth, which is to loot the Muslim world resources. Muslims are not afraid of their lies or wicked scheming and as Allama Iqbal said, Batil se dabne wale aye asman nahin hum, soo bar ker chukha ha tu imtihan hamara. The Ghazis of Islam irrespective of coming from madarras, schools, and universities will always fight against the injustice, falsehood, terrorism of the west, Zionist Israel and their imperial design to conquer and impose their lewd and immoral way of living upon us.

Bridges between the people of Islam and those who fear Islam must be built. Since the collapse of Soviet Union and communism, the world has been heading towards greater confrontation between the Muslims and non-Muslim cultures. Islam is the culmination of all the faiths and reaffirmation of the previous scriptures and revealed knowledge of all aspects of life, temporal as well as metaphysical through Prophet Mohammed. Islam, its message and its subsequent power were so rapidly accepted by hundred of nations and millions of people across the world that defies all rationale and was phenomenal. During the last one hundred and fifty years nearly sixty thousands of books on Islam have appeared in the west and mostly written by western authors with perfidious intent to sully Islam with their delinquent understanding. The non-Muslim writes and are alien to the path of Islam, its sublime tranquillity, its beauty and unique impression on the soul of a Muslim. Their writing somewhat academic and remote, inherently prejudice with an attitude of arrogant but ignorant superiority when in fact they can never grasp the beautiful essence of Islam, which it creates for a believer. Islam envisages religion as not just a part of life but as the whole of it. In fact, aI-Islam or al-din sees itself as life itself and it incorporates what we do, what we make, what we think, what we feel as well as address the question of where we come from and where we are going.

Westerners lack of knowledge about Islam emanates from ignorance and being ignorant is no excuse for anyone to sully Islam for the sake of perfidious mentality and evil intent to misrepresent it. If an evil-doer brings you a piece of news, inquire first into its truth, lest you should wrong others unwittingly and repent of what you have done. No Muslim army went into Malaysia, Maldives, Indonesia, Bali, Philippines and SE coast of China but it was the dynamism of Islam, which began spreading rapidly to all corners of the globe, and was accepted by the locals with open arms and hearts. Plunder and economic gain are baseless and mendacious accusations levied against Islams spreading so rapidly to all corners of the earth and it is a repugnant attempt to put Islamic civilization on the same pedestal as the barbaric and lewd Christendom with its heinous record of expansion purely for greed in the disguise of white skin Christianity of whit mans god of Bible.
 

kmanzar

Voter (50+ posts)
That article by Saladin A, is a mixture of Emotions, Hatred, Illogical Reasoning and Conspiracy Theories. The article also depicts the lack of historical knowledge and wisdom of the author on the current ongoing situation.

It is true that Muslims world is going through a very tough time, but it is better to understand the reasons of this current miserable state and to know how Jews and West became able to terrorize that big Islamic World. Are really some conspiracies going on by West or is there something else is happening to us.

There are some points need to keep in mind to becoming out of the west-phobic state. Instead of being emotional and passing out false statements we should know that: -

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Our world stands on the principal of Power, not on the principal of Justice (When Muslims were in power, they did the similar sort of acts, please read the history carefully). Now, in the modern world, Science and Research is the major tool to gain power. Please check the contribution of the current whole Muslim world in modern science/research and compare it with the contribution of West in last 5 centuries.

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Instead of blaming West, Christians or Jews (wohee ghisee pitee Sahooni Sazishen), please check the current literacy rate, number of democracies in the Muslim world etc and then compare these parameters with the West.

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Europe and USA are not Christian societies. They left religion based politics long time ago (with the exception of Israel/Jews), so its very unfair to related the events of WWII, Hiroshima etc with Christianity.

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Someones bad act should not be taken as an excuse of another bad work. Brutal killings of innocent people in Hiroshima and WWII could not be an excuse to kill innocent people in Suicide bombing. WTC attacks, 7/7 bombing in London, Madrid trains bombing, suicides in Jerusalem etc all are equally acts of cruelty, even if carried in name of Islam

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There is no external enemy of Muslims, instead, illiteracy, shortage of democracies, lack of science and technology from ages and increasing extremism are the real enemies of the Muslim world. If we can overcome these enemies, no one else could be able to do conspiracies against us.

Conclusion-
Instead of becoming emotional, we should be logical and analytical. We should read un-biased history, should check what our own mistakes were and how come we can overcome our current miserable state.

So, it is not the West, but increasing Extremism and Hatred in the Muslim World is eating up the peace of the whole world. Our enemy sits inside us.

Blaming someone else on our own problems is the easiest thing to do
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
kmanzar said:
That article by Saladin A, is a mixture of Emotions, Hatred, Illogical Reasoning and Conspiracy Theories. The article also depicts the lack of historical knowledge and wisdom of the author on the current ongoing situation.

It is true that Muslims world is going through a very tough time, but it is better to understand the reasons of this current miserable state and to know how Jews and West became able to terrorize that big Islamic World. Are really some conspiracies going on by West or is there something else is happening to us.

There are some points need to keep in mind to becoming out of the west-phobic state. Instead of being emotional and passing out false statements we should know that: -

1-
Our world stands on the principal of Power, not on the principal of Justice (When Muslims were in power, they did the similar sort of acts, please read the history carefully). Now, in the modern world, Science and Research is the major tool to gain power. Please check the contribution of the current whole Muslim world in modern science/research and compare it with the contribution of West in last 5 centuries.

2-
Instead of blaming West, Christians or Jews (wohee ghisee pitee Sahooni Sazishen), please check the current literacy rate, number of democracies in the Muslim world etc and then compare these parameters with the West.

3-
Europe and USA are not Christian societies. They left religion based politics long time ago (with the exception of Israel/Jews), so its very unfair to related the events of WWII, Hiroshima etc with Christianity.

4-
Someones bad act should not be taken as an excuse of another bad work. Brutal killings of innocent people in Hiroshima and WWII could not be an excuse to kill innocent people in Suicide bombing. WTC attacks, 7/7 bombing in London, Madrid trains bombing, suicides in Jerusalem etc all are equally acts of cruelty, even if carried in name of Islam

5-
There is no external enemy of Muslims, instead, illiteracy, shortage of democracies, lack of science and technology from ages and increasing extremism are the real enemies of the Muslim world. If we can overcome these enemies, no one else could be able to do conspiracies against us.

Conclusion-
Instead of becoming emotional, we should be logical and analytical. We should read un-biased history, should check what our own mistakes were and how come we can overcome our current miserable state.

So, it is not the West, but increasing Extremism and Hatred in the Muslim World is eating up the peace of the whole world. Our enemy sits inside us.

Blaming someone else on our own problems is the easiest thing to do


yes it is easy to blame others just like you did just now. Every time a Pakistani person mentions a word about zionism, Muslims are the first one to criticise, disunity at its worst.

Manzar, if you are so smart, why didnt you write it before Saladin did??

Muslims were the best rulers. you have been reading books written by Hinuds, Christains and Jews. Books tainted by hatred against us
 

Whats Up Doc

Councller (250+ posts)
Mr.Saladin: Thank you for including India in your list of gangs otherwise I would have felt left out and depressed thanks again

Mr. kmanzar. Thank you for adding some wisdom into this mix BRAVOOOOOOOOOOO
 

Saladin A

Minister (2k+ posts)
The present economic decline in the fortunes of Western countries; it has made it necessary for them to eliminate any threat that hinders their economic progress and prosperity. How long this war on terror will go on with different labels attached ? When there are no more terrorists? There have been terrorists for hundreds of years. Terrorism is a tactic, not an enemy. The "war on terror" is a metaphor, like the "war on cancer" or the "war on poverty" or the "war on drugs." And how many of those "wars" have we won?

President George W Bush (born again Christian) who believd that God spoke to him while he slept as soon as he came into power, made a principle of declaring war on Islamic terror as wherever you can find it that he so foolishly termed. "Terrorism" was the word he invented to illegally invade Iraq and Afghanistan; to kill Muslims in hundreds of thousands and bully them around the world. He wanted his world order at the cost of others' justice and discipline and dignity; and imperialism at any price and at cost of hundred of thousands of innocent human lives. There was no option for the weak Muslim nations because the new order envisaged by G W Bush must not be carried forward by President Barrack Obama if he wished to succeed in resolving Palestinians and Israeli conflict; Iran and North Koreas nuclear stand off, and imposing western democracy at the point of gun on Muslim countries.

President Barrack Obama is a highly intelligent and almost a genius man and uses his intellectual Minerva to find solutions to his domestic problem and foreign policy failures and mess left behind by the ex-President G W Bush who preferred bombs and missiles to intimidate and resolve problems and left the Americans in such an economic rot and international mess.

The secular and western boot-licking elite of Pakistan are happy adopting westernized way if immoral, vulgar and lewd way of life and feel happy about it. They think that adopting western culture is a way to progress and makes them feel happy and all that matters in life. I watch on TV these westernized young actresses, models, pop singers wearing tight, semi-naked western dresses and even some of the female hosts do not cover themselves from neck down and that is shameful and disgraceful. I believe that this western pop music, modeling and fashion shows and fashion parades are destroying what is little is left of Islam in Pakistan. A majority of Pakistanis are Muslims because they are born to Muslim parents but they hardly know anything about Islam and Quran. Islam is the most accommodating Deen and asks its followers to adopt the Middle Path so that is not a burden to practice for an individual and the Ummah, and made it easy for the non-believers to understand.

The Taliban have adopted rigidity that is though permissible under certain circumstances but that is not the way of Islam. Islam allows harsh punishments against crimes and committal of sins but the purpose is to prevent crime and save Islamic society from being polluted by criminals and immorality but that does not mean that punishment should be applied without a judicial process and outside the parameters of Quran and Sharia. The penal code of Islam is absolutely clear about a crime, a sin and punishment but whole purpose is prevention so that criminals and offenders are not allowed to walk free in an Islamic society.

The Vatican plays a duplicitous role against Islam and has condoned illegal invasion of Iraq; killing of hundreds and thousands of innocent Iraqis and horrendous destruction of their country. Even, Vatican has not condemned barbareity and ruthlessness of Zionist Jewish of Israels naked aggression against the innocent Palestinian men, women and children. the Pope must tell the Zionist Jews that they will not for ever bomb their way into bullying, intimidating and killing innocent Palestinians little babies,their mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters and time has come when they must stop their uncivilized, inhuman and brutal aggression against them. The fury in the Muslim world over radical remarks made by Pope Benedict XVI three year in a speech during a pilgrimage to his native Germany in which he linked the noble faith of Islam to violence and terrorism, quoting a 14th-century barbaric Christian emperor who said that Prophet Mohammed's command to spread Islam by the sword had produced "evil and inhumane" results. But the Pope's "apology" later on over those Islamophobic remarks failed to calm the outrage over his comments. What made his comments about Islam so incredible was that he conveniently ignored Christianity's own barbarous past. One must wonder why the Vatican has not played any significant role aimed at building bridges between different cultures and mending what politicians like G W Bush and Tony Blair destroyed in recent years. Not only did the Pope chose to quote old, highly offensive remarks against the Muslims, he also ignored the fact that during the time the Catholic Church was cementing the barbarism of Europe's dark ages for centuries the Muslim world, from southern Europe to China was setting milestones for literature, philosophy, art, architecture, medicine, chemistry, physics, biology, math and music. Manuscripts on law, botany, etiquette and fashion were being produced and students from Europe, Africa and China converged in their tens of thousands upon the vast and illustrious universities and libraries of Baghdad, Damascus, Cordoba, Seville and Cairo. Charging Islam with intolerance is wrong and ignores the 1,000 years of glorious co-existence among Muslims, Christians and Jews. Islam did not spread by the force of sword.

The fact of the matter is that it spread many times, more rapidly at times of peace than it ever did at times of war, both during the time of Prophet Mohammed (SAW) and ever since, and thats why it's the fastest growing religion in the world until today.
Christians in hundreds and thousands in theopean countries are converting to Islam and the truth is that it is the purity, simplicity and nobility of Islam that attracts them towards it despite mendacious propoganda by the secular and Zionist TV media and press. Muslims are buying churches in vast numbers in Europe as the Christians have abandoned their religion and accepted secularism, materialism, greed, moral debauchery and licentiousness as their newly found religion. Mosques are full, but the churches stand empty and are becoming discos or gambling bingos.

On the other hand, the Quran revealed to the Prophet Mohammed1400 years ago is not a textbook of science, it is, however, a highly scientific book. It makes numerous references to natural phenomena including the movements a backed by modern science that has astounded many of heavenly bodies and the behaviour of various creatures. These are in perfect harmony with observed realities and this is an amazing fact, the significance of which is not often underlined. In a book from its time, one can see that it makes so many claims about physical as well as spiritual matters that it would not be surprising to find errors, but the Quran is totally free from these.

The materialist, agnostic, atheist, secularist sees nothing but contradiction, irregularities and frivolities in Christianity and Judaism compatibility to science and rejects any theological version, explanation or thought. And, since he is so ignorant of the Islamic teachings of the Quran, he jumps to similar conclusion and snides with ignorant impression of Islam. He resorts to secular slander and blames Muslims for importing creationism into schools. Indeed in-depth knowledge of Islam as well reading of right Islamic books written by Muslim scholars is essential to correct his myopic vision and ignorance and to find out that Islam compliments Science and there is no contradiction.

The Quran reminds men of the duty of worshipping and at the same time urges them to pursue for the effort of cause and effect: "And man hath only that for which he maketh effort" (53.39). The Quran urges men not only to go on exploration but travel in the land (all corners of the earth) and see and explore the nature, discover and meditate over the creation of the heavens and the earth, and say: Our Lord! Thou createdst not this in vain"(3:191).

As far as the method of obtaining and increasing the knowledge (ilm), it is so wonderful to note that the very first revelation, Surah Iqra that came to the Prophet (SAW) who was not a literate man, was a command to read and write, and praise of pen which is the only means or custodian of human knowledge: " Read with the name of the Lord (Rubul-Almeen), Createth man from a Clot (after the fusion of cells they start to multiply into even numbers and take of shape of leech like substance in the earliest embryonic stages). Read, and thy Lord is the Most Bounteous, Who teacheth by Pen: Teacheth man that which he knew not."