MQM vs Jamaat-e-Islami

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Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Sir Faisal Sabzwari MQM Free Education To Munawar Hassan JI

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naz

Councller (250+ posts)
MQM ke 99% log jamaat-e-islami ke hi workers par mushtamil thee en sab ki training whan hi hoe ab ye maan bety he hain apas ki larai main ek dosrey ke bal nahee nochengi tu kia karingi
 

rahat

Senator (1k+ posts)
MQM was created by the military dictators to divide and uphold the corrupt system and they are still success in their aim due to the negative attitude of the foolish peoples of Karachi who support MQM.

In order to keep the record right, I want to draw your attention toward the following facts:

- the privileged class launched a movement against the popular leadership of Bhutto in 1977. It was completely sponsored by the foreign elements whose interests were to eliminate the leadership in the world who challenged their imperial role and organize a popular movement against their interests. In that occasion they used their partners (privileged classes) of Pakistan who mostly represent the urban areas of the Pakistan. The leadership of these urban centers particularly of Karachi and Hyderabad was dominated by the religious parties (jamiat Islami and JUP).

- it is evident that these religious groups won about all the seats of these urban centers and then they start agitation against Bhutto for so-called rigging on the instructions of their bosses. The movement was confined to these two cities only for about 1 1/2 month from where these privileged religious class won all the cities.

- when they were not getting support from any of the other part of the country representing the lower class, then the foreign bosses planned to start agitation in Lahore and they sent peoples of these parties to Lahore to start agitation their. They financed and supplied big money to do it. The flow of dollars in that movement was so evident that the dollars value was went down against Pakistanis rupee.
_ when they start agitation in Lahore at the end of April by theses conspirators and foreign funded religious parties, the establishment came to play their due role in accordance to the plan to dislodge the Bhutto by the army.

- after dislodging Bhutto the establishment was of the view that now in future they can't use these religious parties against the popular movements, as the peoples were fed up with their slogan of "Islam". They start to find some other slogan and new groups to organize to crush any future popular movement and in this connection they finalized to launch an ethnic grouping in the urban centers. They worked on different peoples to create that group and many seasonal and patriotic Urdu speaking leaders refused to become the part of that conspiracy and finally they selected Altaf for that purpose. They worked with them and simultaneously on the Sindhi nationalist to support to create and enforce the ethnic Urdu speaking party. The first training of this group was done by the ISI and G M Syed. When after the training the group first demonstrated its strength at quaid Mazar in 1978-79 by burning Pakistan flag.

- the establishment arrested and then he was freed and sent to USA for further training and organization. The Establishment launched the party in 1986-87 at the eve of return of Benazir Bhutto to Pakistan to lead the popular movement and to show the strength and aspiration of the oppressed peoples of the country.

_ after its launching they are playing the role of the agent of the establishment and privileged classes with the sole object to divide and crush any popular peoples movement. It is evident from the role they played against the "No confidence" motion against Benazir Bhutto being the partner in the government. after the defeat in assembly they created a big and brutal operation in Karachi and Hyderabad with the help of the establishment to destabilize Benazir government and then they played each elected government to whom they always were the partners.
 

HerZ

Voter (50+ posts)
rahat said:
MQM was created by the military dictators to divide and uphold the corrupt system and they are still success in their aim due to the negative attitude of the foolish peoples of Karachi who support MQM.

In order to keep the record right, I want to draw your attention toward the following facts:

- the privileged class launched a movement against the popular leadership of Bhutto in 1977. It was completely sponsored by the foreign elements whose interests were to eliminate the leadership in the world who challenged their imperial role and organize a popular movement against their interests. In that occasion they used their partners (privileged classes) of Pakistan who mostly represent the urban areas of the Pakistan. The leadership of these urban centers particularly of Karachi and Hyderabad was dominated by the religious parties (jamiat Islami and JUP).

- it is evident that these religious groups won about all the seats of these urban centers and then they start agitation against Bhutto for so-called rigging on the instructions of their bosses. The movement was confined to these two cities only for about 1 1/2 month from where these privileged religious class won all the cities.

- when they were not getting support from any of the other part of the country representing the lower class, then the foreign bosses planned to start agitation in Lahore and they sent peoples of these parties to Lahore to start agitation their. They financed and supplied big money to do it. The flow of dollars in that movement was so evident that the dollars value was went down against Pakistanis rupee.
_ when they start agitation in Lahore at the end of April by theses conspirators and foreign funded religious parties, the establishment came to play their due role in accordance to the plan to dislodge the Bhutto by the army.

- after dislodging Bhutto the establishment was of the view that now in future they can't use these religious parties against the popular movements, as the peoples were fed up with their slogan of "Islam". They start to find some other slogan and new groups to organize to crush any future popular movement and in this connection they finalized to launch an ethnic grouping in the urban centers. They worked on different peoples to create that group and many seasonal and patriotic Urdu speaking leaders refused to become the part of that conspiracy and finally they selected Altaf for that purpose. They worked with them and simultaneously on the Sindhi nationalist to support to create and enforce the ethnic Urdu speaking party. The first training of this group was done by the ISI and G M Syed. When after the training the group first demonstrated its strength at quaid Mazar in 1978-79 by burning Pakistan flag.

- the establishment arrested and then he was freed and sent to USA for further training and organization. The Establishment launched the party in 1986-87 at the eve of return of Benazir Bhutto to Pakistan to lead the popular movement and to show the strength and aspiration of the oppressed peoples of the country.

_ after its launching they are playing the role of the agent of the establishment and privileged classes with the sole object to divide and crush any popular peoples movement. It is evident from the role they played against the "No confidence" motion against Benazir Bhutto being the partner in the government. after the defeat in assembly they created a big and brutal operation in Karachi and Hyderabad with the help of the establishment to destabilize Benazir government and then they played each elected government to whom they always were the partners.

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Love-One

Citizen
MQM is Most Modernized and Educated Political Party of Pakistan......!!

We should appreciate the MQM's efforts.......

Best "MQM"
Best "Pakistan"
 

woofer

Banned
Jamat Islami total munafiq party. Apne bachoon ko america london bhajte hain ur dosroon ky bachoon jahad per bhaj kar marwa dete hain. MQM ne us party ko 20 sal phaly hi dafan kardia tha.
 

shujaulhaq

Citizen
MQM = Musalman Qatil Movement ... han sahi boola Most Modernized in TERROISM...bori band lassain ....bhata khori...Torcher cell.... Choori.. dakatai...iss ko marooo us ko marwaaoo...bass yahi kaam hia is Qatil moment ka...Qadinaoo ki jaamat hia..... jahan ALLAH or uss kay RASOOL(PBUH) ki baat aati hai wahan par inn ko AAG lag jati hai.... wo BHAGOORA ..PHATOO balaay NEEM PAGAL bahi...udhar beht kar ARAM kar raha hai... BECHARA....
 

woofer

Banned
MQM = Musalman Qatil Movement ... han sahi boola Most Modernized in TERROISM...bori band lassain ....bhata khori...Torcher cell.... Choori.. dakatai...iss ko marooo us ko marwaaoo...bass yahi kaam hia is Qatil moment ka...Qadinaoo ki jaamat hia..... jahan ALLAH or uss kay RASOOL(PBUH) ki baat aati hai wahan par inn ko AAG lag jati hai.... wo BHAGOORA ..PHATOO balaay NEEM PAGAL bahi...udhar beht kar ARAM kar raha hai... BECHARA....

If it is all true then why people love mqm give them vote and mqm get 25 million vote in each and every election. Why they won in gilgit election people voted mqm. Tum log jalte rahoo ham log jeete rahen ge. Tumary nasseeb main hi rona likh dia gia hy.... rote rahooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
 

shujaulhaq

Citizen
Mr. woofer.....ya sab batain karachi ka bacha bacha janta hia..kyon appnay app ko DHOOOKA day rahay ho....Haqiqat haqiqat hi hoti hia..issay JHUTLAYA nahi jasakta my dear.....or rahi votes ki baat...to ya bhi karachi walaiy achi tarha jantay hian kissi tareeqay say VOTE DALWAY jatay hain...Pre poll or polling walay din POLLING Station par kai ho raha hota hai....iss tarha say 25 million VOTE bhi kam hi lagtay hian ....VOTE daalnay jaoo to pata chalta hai kay app nay to VOTE daal dia hai ....... JALTA kon hai ya to INSHALLAH jo ASSLI ZINDAGI hai waahan par PATA chal jay ga...or kiss kay NASEEB mai KITTNA ROONA hia ...yabhi INSHALLAH Uss RUB-Ul-IZZAT kay SAMNAY chal pata jay ga.....or BAYSHAK AAAMAALOO ka darooomadar NEIYATOOO par hia...or ALLAH sab kuch DEKH raha hai...

If it is all true then why people love mqm give them vote and mqm get 25 million vote in each and every election. Why they won in gilgit election people voted mqm. Tum log jalte rahoo ham log jeete rahen ge. Tumary nasseeb main hi rona likh dia gia hy.... rote rahooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Mr. woofer.....ya sab batain karachi ka bacha bacha janta hia..kyon appnay app ko DHOOOKA day rahay ho....Haqiqat haqiqat hi hoti hia..issay JHUTLAYA nahi jasakta my dear.....or rahi votes ki baat...to ya bhi karachi walaiy achi tarha jantay hian kissi tareeqay say VOTE DALWAY jatay hain...Pre poll or polling walay din POLLING Station par kai ho raha hota hai....iss tarha say 25 million VOTE bhi kam hi lagtay hian ....VOTE daalnay jaoo to pata chalta hai kay app nay to VOTE daal dia hai ....... JALTA kon hai ya to INSHALLAH jo ASSLI ZINDAGI hai waahan par PATA chal jay ga...or kiss kay NASEEB mai KITTNA ROONA hia ...yabhi INSHALLAH Uss RUB-Ul-IZZAT kay SAMNAY chal pata jay ga.....or BAYSHAK AAAMAALOO ka darooomadar NEIYATOOO par hia...or ALLAH sab kuch DEKH raha hai...

In 1993 General elections held in Pakistan, MQM boycotted the National Assembly elections as the Agencies not allowing MQM to contest on many seats of Karachi, So it was the chance for Jamat e Islami to show their strength and power in Karachi,

Qazi Hussain Ahmed the then Ameer of Jamat e Islami and Munawwar Hassan the current Ameer of Jamat e Islami took part in Elections from Karachi and both Contested for the National Assembly Seats.

Here is what both of them get from Karachi


Qazi Hussain contested from NA-191 and got 8,452 votes and Lost.


Munawwar Hassan contested from NA-193 and got only 8,550 votes and lost as well.
qazi_munaw_press.jpg
The percentage of votes they got from their constituencies are merely 2-3% votes, mind it no MQM in the field, Army on the streets of Karachi doing operation against MQM on the charges of Jinnah Pur and Jamati Munafiqs lost the elections and their Ameer and Secretary General both got only 2-3 % votes.

So the people who blame MQM especially outsiders who dont live in Karachi and hatters on internet, can tell us why people rejected the Jamat e Islami and didnt vote for them when there was no rigging and no MQM contesting the Elections?
 

sam228

Senator (1k+ posts)
Jury and Woofer BHAYO, i have lived in karachi for 20 years and I have seen the ways of MQM, they come to the peoples houses take their ID card numbers and details and use this data to do pre-poll rigging, Other than that they use many other ways to do rigging in the elections. MQM is only popular in the Jahil and Ganwar Muhajirs of Karachi. Same is the situation about PPP which is also popular only among the uneducated class of sindhi people. I say that being a Sindhi myself. If I am bold enough to accept the truth you should be courageous enough to come over your linguistic bias and see what is good for the country. Agar sirf Votes ki baat hay to Vote to Zardari nay bhee lay liya hain!!!
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Jury and Woofer BHAYO, i have lived in karachi for 20 years and I have seen the ways of MQM, they come to the peoples houses take their ID card numbers and details and use this data to do pre-poll rigging, Other than that they use many other ways to do rigging in the elections. MQM is only popular in the Jahil and Ganwar Muhajirs of Karachi. Same is the situation about PPP which is also popular only among the uneducated class of sindhi people. I say that being a Sindhi myself. If I am bold enough to accept the truth you should be courageous enough to come over your linguistic bias and see what is good for the country. Agar sirf Votes ki baat hay to Vote to Zardari nay bhee lay liya hain!!!
You have been living only for 20 years.
But, same accusation have been making by Jamaaties & hatters soon after MQM close there Political Monopoly. Same chance was given, when MQM boycotted local bodies election in 2001. Because, constitution was suspended. But, all the democratic Champion took part in that election, who were making hue and cry on 3 November, 2007. Who took part in election in 2001 in the same situation.

In that election, hardly 5% voters cast there votes in that election.


And what happened
In 1993 General elections held in Pakistan, MQM boycotted the National Assembly elections as the Agencies not allowing MQM to contest on many seats of Karachi, So it was the chance for Jamat e Islami to show their strength and power in Karachi,

Qazi Hussain Ahmed the then Ameer of Jamat e Islami and Munawwar Hassan the current Ameer of Jamat e Islami took part in Elections from Karachi and both Contested for the National Assembly Seats.

Here is what both of them get from Karachi


Qazi Hussain contested from NA-191 and got 8,452 votes and Lost.


Munawwar Hassan contested from NA-193 and got only 8,550 votes and lost as well.
qazi_munaw_press.jpg
The percentage of votes they got from their constituencies are merely 2-3% votes, mind it no MQM in the field, Army on the streets of Karachi doing operation against MQM on the charges of Jinnah Pur and Jamati Munafiqs lost the elections and their Ameer and Secretary General both got only 2-3 % votes.


 

sam228

Senator (1k+ posts)
Whatever the reason. Terrorism and Gundagardi could not be justified and Both Jamit-e-Islami and MQM are terrorist organizations which use terrorism and deception to win the elections. End of discussion!
 

woofer

Banned
Whatever the reason. Terrorism and Gundagardi could not be justified and Both Jamit-e-Islami and MQM are terrorist organizations which use terrorism and deception to win the elections. End of discussion!

Facts and figure dekh kar tumari bolti band hogi hy. Kia baqi political parties dhood ki dholi hoi hian ?
 
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