nadia said:[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6AixsVboIs[/video]
truth about mqm
what has been done with mqm in past years, the reality of 1992 operation is now exposed,
who is going to take the charge?
syed_nd said:what about who they killed by mqm
Spartacus said:syed_nd said:what about who they killed by mqm
Who killed whom ?? How do you know ??Every political killing should be investigate by UNO.
nadia said:Spartacus said:syed_nd said:what about who they killed by mqm
Who killed whom ?? How do you know ??Every political killing should be investigate by UNO.
who did?...
are you kidding?
or do u think i am joking here ?
investigation should be done,!!
who was suppose to investigate at that time ? . why investigation is not done.
Paki_Loyal said:No need for investigation, I am here, im living in karachi from last 22 years,, and i know very well what was the reason behind of 1992 operation.
let me tell u honestly,
i was in football ground, and i was watching football match, so shaam k waqt aik news paper main khabar aaie, k SHO bahadur khan ko na maloom afraad ne qatal ker dia hai,, ye wo officer na dur aur imanat daar officer tha jis ne kaafi had tak jariem pesha afraad ko arrest keya tha, aur wo sab MQM k workers thay,
ye tha pehla qatal, jo k MQM k workers ne keya tha, aik honest police officer ka,
uss k baad karachi main qatal o garat ka aghaaz ho gaya, kabhi koi KDA ka officer maar dia jata, kabhi army ka major, kabhi police walay, kabhi doctors, kabhi engineers, kabhi advocate, kabhi aam citizens kabhi rangers k ahalkaar,
Allah Jhoot na bulaey, mujhey wo waqt yaad hai k jab bhe hamarey paas koi bhe Yellow Cab aa k rukti thi to ham sab dur jatay they,, koi bhe suzuki High Roof aa k rukti thi to ham ko khauf tari ho jata tha, motor cycle per sawar kai martba un clean shave terrorists ne public transport busses per AK 47 k brust marey, busses aur cars ko sarr e aam jalaya,, Nawai e Waqt k office per Rocket Launcher daaga,, kitni jaga Gernade phainkay gay, aur Rocket Launcher maray gay, ham subah college k liay nikaltey thay to meri ammi jaan mujhey dua deti thi k ALLAH tumhari hifazat fermaey, karachi main itna khauf tha uss waqt,, karachi main be tahasha no go areas thay,, jaha per police aur rangers bhe jatay ghabratay they, aur koi dosrey area ka person waha chala jaey to MQM k workers uss ke poori investigation kertey thay, aur martay alag thay, aur agar koi police ka mukbar un k haath lag jata to ussey qatal ker k bori main bund ker k uss ke naash phaink detey thay, mera aik apna dost MQM main tha, ussey sirf 6 months howay thay, MQM ko join kiay howay, main ne awaam news paper per uss ke naash ke picture dekhi, police se muqablay main wo mara gaya tha, wo rehta kahi aur tha, magar korangi k area main mara gaya,,
korangi dhaaie no,, nasir colony, pak colony, lalu khait, aziza baad, lines area, orangi town,, ye wo areas thay, jaha per aik aam citizen jatay howay ghabrata tha, ye sab areas MQM k gurr hein,, aur sab no go areas thay,,
aakhir kab tak govt aur govt k afraad berdaasht kertey, kisi na kisi tor to inhein rokna tha, police k bus ke baat nahi thi, rangers k paas itni resources nahi thi, majbooran army ko bulaya gaya, aur jab operation hoowa to karachi k halat normal ho gay, MQM k torture cell niklay, MQM k derjano terrorists pakrey gay, aur khud unho ne TV per aa k aitraf e jurm keya aur saaf kaha k ham ALTAF Husaain k kehne per ye sab dehshat gardi kertey thay, main kia kuch bataoo aap ko, aaj jis terhan sawat, mala kand, deer, waziristan main aslahy pakrey jatay hein, issi terhan 1992 main bhe akaafi aslay pakrey jatay thay,
Naeem sharri kon tha? zara poochiay in se?
main ne ALLAH ko jaan deni hai, main ne jo kaha wo bilkul sach kaha, aur karachi operation bilkul theak hoowa tha,
They & especially, Jamaat-e-Islami have been saying MQM involve in Nashter Park bomb blast. But, later the Jamat e Ahl e Sunnat Ameer cleared that it was a suicide attack and the attacker belonged from Mansehra.Spartacus said:As you wrote ..."so shaam k waqt aik news paper main khabar aaie, k SHO bahadur khan ko na maloom afraad ne qatal ker dia "
and you thought killer were MQM workers ?? ...
His name was not Bahadur khan but Bahadur ali....and he has been killed by Sipah-e-sahaba....( Because he was from Shia )
As you wrote ..."Bahadur Ali ka qatal =ye tha pehla qatal, jo k MQM k workers ne keya tha"
Do you know this killing was after 1992 operation and not before 1992 operation.
Tum 22 Sal karachi main rah ker bhi karachi kay zulm per awaz uttah na say....Afsoos...
Paki_Loyal said:Daal main kala nahi Daal main Altaf Hussain aur uss ke policies hein, jis ko MQM k workers. jantay howay bhe defend kertey hein, Mujhey afsos hota hai k ham such kiun nahi boltay, main 6 saal tak PML (N) ka ohday daar raha, apnay area ka GS bana, magar sirf 2 waja se main ne party se alehdgi ikhtiyar ker le, 1st, k hamarey area se jo MNA muntakhib howa tha, uss ne election jeatney k baad kabhi doobara apni shakal nahi dikhai, 2nd, Qarz utaro Mulk Sanwaro,, logo ne Billion of rupees diay, magar un ka kuch ata pata nahi wo kaha gay, in do wajohat k bina per main ne party chor de, Kiun k sab se pehley main muslim hoo, phir main Pakistani hoo, aur ye dono herkato ke na to islam ijazat deta hai, aur na he mera zameer k merey watan se he lia gaya pesa mere watan per he na kherch keya jaey, aur harap ker dia jaey,, main ne sab se zayada awwaliyat pakistan ko de na k nawaz sharif ko na party ko na manshoor ko na qoumiyat ko na apnay mufadaat ko, mere liay sab se pehley mera zameer aur mera watan hai, kisi bhe leader ne hamein kuch nahi dena, agar dena hai to sirf pakistan ne dena hai, aur hamein pakistan se loyal hona chahiay na k un leaders se jin ka daman gunaho aur jraiem se bhara para ho,
mujhey afsos hai jury,mutahda,spartacus per, k aap log educated ho ker bhe, such nahi boltey, aur bilawaja apnay leader ko defend kertey ho, aur main daway se kehta hoo, k andar se aap bhe jantay ho k aap k leaders per ilzamat sachay hein, kiun k ham hein to muslim na, asal main jese suecide bombers ka brain wash keya jata hai, ussi terhan aap logo ka bhe brain wash ker dia gaya hai, kala ho safaid ho aap ne bus Altaf Hussain ko he defend kerna hai,, my dears open ur eyes,, apnay maray howay zameer ko jagaoo, Allah ne aap ko shaour dia hai, iss liay k aap sahi aur galat ke pihchan ker sako, ye na ho k aankh bund ho jaey aur aap log jhoot ko defend kertey kertey duniya se rukhsat ho jao, uss waqt to na Altaf Hussain aaey ga, na Qoumiyat, uss waqt to sawal ye poocha jaey ga, k tum jantay bhe thay k wo person jhoota tha, qatil tha, phir bhe tum ne uss ka saath kiun dia? socho uss waqt ko, aur ALLAH k azaab se daro,, ham sab ne iss duniya se rukhsat ho jana hai, khaali haath aaey thay, khaali haath jaein gay, Allah aap ko aur ham sab ko hidayat ata fermaey, such bolnay ke, aur jhoot k khilaaf awaaz buland kerney ke taufeeq fermaey, Allah ne aap ko Masha ALLAH, aqal de, shaour dia, aap ne taleem hasil ke, achi family de, acha mahol dia, apni istaa-taat ka sahi terhan se istimal karo, its my request,,kuch dini k liay sirf aik pakistani bun ker socho, aik muslim bun ker socho, aik neutral insan bun ker socho, i beileve k aap ke soch change ho jaey ge, aap chahein to aap teeno mujhey pvt message ker saktey hein,
Thanx
1) Not a single inquiry has blamed MQM.GeoG said:@Spartacus, Jury
I have read the argument from you and from Paki Loyal.
Can you please explain that why is the perception of all other communities against MQM not Mohajirs.
(1)Twenty years has passed and during this time MQM has been ruling and no inquiry has cleared MQM.
(2)Why MQM to take advantage of NRO for clearing all murders, including against Altaf Hussain.
(3)Dal Main Kuch To Kalla Hai and Dal Bananay Waley Yeh Zaroor Jantay Hon Gay, So I guess you can explain better that (4)why Sindhis, Punjabis, Pathans, Baluchis and even some Mohajirs are against MQM.
An honest answer, no politics, may be it will help me to understand MQM better.
(5)No Paper Cuttings please.
Regards.
nadia said:[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6AixsVboIs[/video]
truth about mqm
what has been done with mqm in past years, the reality of 1992 operation is now exposed,
who is going to take the charge?
Paki_Loyal said:No need for investigation, I am here, im living in karachi from last 22 years,, and i know very well what was the reason behind of 1992 operation.
let me tell u honestly,
i was in football ground, and i was watching football match, so shaam k waqt aik news paper main khabar aaie, k SHO bahadur khan ko na maloom afraad ne qatal ker dia hai,, ye wo officer na dur aur imanat daar officer tha jis ne kaafi had tak jariem pesha afraad ko arrest keya tha, aur wo sab MQM k workers thay,
ye tha pehla qatal, jo k MQM k workers ne keya tha, aik honest police officer ka,
uss k baad karachi main qatal o garat ka aghaaz ho gaya, kabhi koi KDA ka officer maar dia jata, kabhi army ka major, kabhi police walay, kabhi doctors, kabhi engineers, kabhi advocate, kabhi aam citizens kabhi rangers k ahalkaar,
Allah Jhoot na bulaey, mujhey wo waqt yaad hai k jab bhe hamarey paas koi bhe Yellow Cab aa k rukti thi to ham sab dur jatay they,, koi bhe suzuki High Roof aa k rukti thi to ham ko khauf tari ho jata tha, motor cycle per sawar kai martba un clean shave terrorists ne public transport busses per AK 47 k brust marey, busses aur cars ko sarr e aam jalaya,, Nawai e Waqt k office per Rocket Launcher daaga,, kitni jaga Gernade phainkay gay, aur Rocket Launcher maray gay, ham subah college k liay nikaltey thay to meri ammi jaan mujhey dua deti thi k ALLAH tumhari hifazat fermaey, karachi main itna khauf tha uss waqt,, karachi main be tahasha no go areas thay,, jaha per police aur rangers bhe jatay ghabratay they, aur koi dosrey area ka person waha chala jaey to MQM k workers uss ke poori investigation kertey thay, aur martay alag thay, aur agar koi police ka mukbar un k haath lag jata to ussey qatal ker k bori main bund ker k uss ke naash phaink detey thay, mera aik apna dost MQM main tha, ussey sirf 6 months howay thay, MQM ko join kiay howay, main ne awaam news paper per uss ke naash ke picture dekhi, police se muqablay main wo mara gaya tha, wo rehta kahi aur tha, magar korangi k area main mara gaya,,
korangi dhaaie no,, nasir colony, pak colony, lalu khait, aziza baad, lines area, orangi town,, ye wo areas thay, jaha per aik aam citizen jatay howay ghabrata tha, ye sab areas MQM k gurr hein,, aur sab no go areas thay,,
aakhir kab tak govt aur govt k afraad berdaasht kertey, kisi na kisi tor to inhein rokna tha, police k bus ke baat nahi thi, rangers k paas itni resources nahi thi, majbooran army ko bulaya gaya, aur jab operation hoowa to karachi k halat normal ho gay, MQM k torture cell niklay, MQM k derjano terrorists pakrey gay, aur khud unho ne TV per aa k aitraf e jurm keya aur saaf kaha k ham ALTAF Husaain k kehne per ye sab dehshat gardi kertey thay, main kia kuch bataoo aap ko, aaj jis terhan sawat, mala kand, deer, waziristan main aslahy pakrey jatay hein, issi terhan 1992 main bhe akaafi aslay pakrey jatay thay,
Naeem sharri kon tha? zara poochiay in se?
main ne ALLAH ko jaan deni hai, main ne jo kaha wo bilkul sach kaha, aur karachi operation bilkul theak hoowa tha,
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