mera sawal sab se hay,kiya aik musalman k bachay kisi yahoodi k ghar mein parwarsh paa saktay hain?

Abu Talha

Voter (50+ posts)
answer
prophet musa ke parwarish kahan hoee thee ???

Second answer
benazir and nawaz sharif kay bachay london main parwarish paatay hain ....is london muslim ruled ?
Parwarsish pana under jewish mother is different with study in any non muslim society ( islam allow this) but does not allow a muslim to be raised in jewish home.
There is no single example a jewish became a mulim

 
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simple_and_peacefull

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Assalam u Alaikum my dear brother,

can you give us your respectfully views . what you understand.from these hadtiths and Quranic Verse.

and what i understand is simple answer is "NO" from post.

Assalam o Alaikum,
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Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
mera sawal sab se hay kiya aik insaan jo apnay aap ko musalman kehta ho,kiya us ko ye ijazat hay k wo apnay bacho ki tarbiyat aik yahodi ko karnay de?note,no personal attack aur no gali plz


پہلی بات تو یہ ھے کہ وہ یہودی نہیں عیسائی تھی اور


تمھارے فضول سوال کا جواب یہ ھے کہ اگر موسی علیہ السلام , فرعون ( جو اپنے آپکو خدا کہتا تھا ) کے گھر میں پرورش پا سکتا ھے تو یہ کیوں نہیں۔


عیسائی یا یہودی تو پھر بھی اھل کتاب ھیں اور خدا کی ذات کے منکر نہیں۔
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
be wakoof demakh istamal karo phattan (khan) na bano jis ke pass aqal nai hi . Parwarsish pana under jewish mother is different with study in any non muslim society ( islam allow this) but does not allow a muslim to be raised in jewish home.
There is no single example a jewish became a mulim



Kissi Aur Ko Kehnay Say Pehlay Apna Bhi Istimal Kar Lo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_converts_to_Islam
 

deshdrohi123

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Guys why ur abusing each other & making ur Akhrat difficult....focus on Ik..his policies & issues....

not go in personal lives...Jemima is Muslim coz she hasnt announced any other thing so leave it 2 her....

dont be judgemental....have u ever think about urselves....how many prayed 5 times yesterday...or wat gud thing u added yesterday in ur Ammal...

so be +ve think +ve.....think people like normal people......let personal thing 2 that family or couple....

try 2 have discussion as educated, grown up Pakistanis.....& spread it & again dont follow personalities blindly....

issues....otherwise after Bhutto wasted ....our next generation might have been saying the same about us in next 20-30 yrs....thanx
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)


Goldsmiths are christians not jews, now that is a news to me.

Yes, you are right, for ill-informed people it is news.

See the early life of Mr James Goldsmith (father of Jamaima) below:

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Early life and family background


Born in Paris,[SUP][4][/SUP] Goldsmith was the son of luxury hotel tycoon and former Conservative Member of Parliament (MP) Major Frank Goldsmith and his French wife Marcelle Moullier, and younger brother of environmental campaigner Edward Goldsmith. His father was Jewish and his mother Catholic; both Goldsmith and his brother were baptized in Catholicism: that was considered afterwards as a formality. Goldsmith attended Eton, but dropped out in 1949. Two years later, having attended Millfield as one of its earliest pupils, Goldsmith joined the army after his father had paid off gambling debts he had incurred.[SUP][5][/SUP]

Goldsmith's father Frank changed the family name from the German Goldschmidt to the English Goldsmith. The Goldschmidts, neighbors and rivals to the Rothschild family, were a wealthy, Frankfurt-based, Jewish family, who had been influential figures in international merchant banking since the 16th century. James' great-grandfather was Benedict Hayum Salomon Goldschmidt, banker and consul to the Grand Duke of Tuscany. James' grandfather Adolphe Benedict Goldschmidt (1838–1918), a multi-millionaire, came to London in 1895.[SUP][4]

S
ource: [/SUP]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Goldsmith#Early_life_and_family_background
 

janbazali

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
look at the level of thread starter.....personal atatck ka jawab aap ko kis terha chhaye....ye bhi note mai mention ker dena

lakin aap logo say guzarish hai k koi dosra point bhi dhond layen..pichlay 15 saal say aap yahi baat ragarr rhay hain......ye koi aladin ka charagh nhe hai k is k ander say Khan ki koi coruption ki story nikal aye gi

aur dosry baat k jin bachon ka aap referance dena chah rhay hain...wo apni maa k sath reh rhay hain....aur meri taza ittelaa k mutabiq wo musalman hain....aur na bhi hon tu un bachon ki maa hai

Musalman ki baat tu kertay ho....ye yaad rkhna k qiyamat k din tm usi k sath kharay hon gay jis ki tm nay dunia mia himayat ki
ab wo loug apna anjaam imagine ker lain....jo zardari, nawaz, altaf, wali khan jesay logon k suporter hain

sharam magar tm ko nhe aati


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AHMED78

Minister (2k+ posts)
oay lotay k lotta khan k baray mai koi aisi waisi baat ki naa, to tera orignal lotta bana k railway station k bait ul khala mai dai day gay, wo b muft walay :lol:, nxt tym zara zubaan sambhaal k, :angry_smile: yaar inhi lotto shootto ki waja say to pakistan ki yai hallat hay, phahlay yai bata wo to yahodi hay k nahi is ka mujay nahi pata ooo tu kya hay muslim to nahi lagta yai lotta shotta muslmano ka naam to nahi hota, sahi tu ns ka banda hay lottay,(clap), yai lay tera leader IK ka naam sun k yai karta hay(cry)
 
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GraanG2

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Aesa thread koi NS ki party hi ka koi banda start kar sakta hai.Aese besharam log kisi bhi had tak gir sakte hain.
 

GraanG2

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
kiya aap ko pata hay k wo wapis usi yahoodi ibdat gaah mein nahi jati?

Yeh toh hum sab ko bhi nahi pata ke aap masjid jaate ho ke mandir...Phir bhi aap ne ek baar kaha hai ke aap musalman ho toh hum ne aap ko musalman maan liya hai na.

By the way mushrikeen Khaan-e-Kaaba jaa ke buto'n ko poojte the.Toh kya main samjhoo ke woh bhi musalman the?

Talk logic dude.
 

Hamaad

MPA (400+ posts)
just to let u know my friend jemima started dating Hugh Grant after getting divorced and by the way who are u to judge som1???if she isnt good muslim u wont ans Allah in her place and thr r so many muslim women/girls married/unmarried who r doing xactly same why dont u speak abt them why r u only attacking her ??just becoz shez Ik's x-wife ????come on man IK never said hez a perfect muslim so just chill dont get in to som1 personal life


UOTE=Temojin;572500]Mate, let us be very very clear about one thing. Our religion and its boundaries are very different from the ones that came before though they all preached one thing yet Islam has its ultimate laws. Don't know if you are a muslims or not but would like to help here with this confusion. Hazrat Eesa A.S was brought up in a jewish culture till He A.S didn't present deen e eesvi so till then the laws of deen e moosuvi were valid. The time Hazrat Eesa A.S told about deen e eesvi, the previous one was null and void at that very point in time so it is a no debate. Also Muslims have a stricter code of conduct because we are the best ummat.



I would have had hated to bring it up yet it was a public matter so I would like to quote it here. Jemima khan had her differences widened with Imran khan when she was found dating a famous british actor Hugh Grant and I repeat, she hadn't been divorced till that time (well, for a mother dating while still married to a Pakistani Muslim). After three years of dating (isn't it immoral in Islam for a mother of two boys to do?) him, she split up and remained single for only one month while getting in another dating relationship with Luke Janklow till date so I don't think she is a role model for a Muslim woman, don't know whether she gives a damn about our religious norms too as she could be found in the most immodest of clothing with these men at public places. Yes! It could be alright for goldsmith boys yet not for Muslim boys whose father settles himself at a higher pedestal of religion and morality. Remember, he calls himself the torch-bearer of Muslim values as well as Pakistani values so these aren't Muslim Pakistani values at all.

Now for the part for the house of goldsmiths. Since when did anyone presume that they believed in one God? Well! according to their claims they believe in the holy trinity (for them it must be holy) while actually they still are believers of the religion their very very and very dear friends i.e the rothschilds are and I don't need to tell anyone what the rothschilds believe in and I don't need to tell anyone about the depth of relationships between these two families. So either way, they don't believe in what we believe so bringing up those children under their patronage isn't appropriate at all. People might think that children are abided by law to live with their mother yet did IK made any open effort to get his boys to stay with himself or in an appropriate environment at the least, he never did.

I have no personal grudges with IK yet he seems no different to me than other immodest and immoral rulers that we have had till now who defends all his actions while leaves no opportunity left to criticize others.[/QUOTE]
 

babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
mera sawal sab se hay kiya aik insaan jo apnay aap ko musalman
kehta ho,kiya us ko ye ijazat hay k wo apnay bacho ki tarbiyat aik yahodi
ko karnay de?note,no personal attack aur no gali plz
Mera jawab ye hay ko millions of insaan jo apnay aap ko musalman kehtay hein,
kiya un ko ye ijazat hay ko wo Khud awr apnay bacho ki tarbiyat, rehaihas(residence)
and kasab (earnings) yahodiyoon key han kartaay hoon. According to Lota
then bells start ringing for the people who live in rainbow bridge, plus
uncle sam and plus whole of Europe, specially the central one.(beligum);
People become so nut sometime to ask wonderful questions????
Oh claiming-to-Believers do not bracket all yahoodis and all eesaaee
in the same bracket, if you believe in Quran, or if you believe in books
printed in Urdu Bazar Lahore type places, then feel free to roam in???????
 

Abu Talha

Voter (50+ posts)
Bismillah I feel most reply going towards wrong direction. 1 - Brother the supporter of PTI are using bad language.
It reflect the educated ( so called Youth ) standard of our youth. Think once again can such people command a nuclear state.
Mr. Haroon Rashid (trying to be proof of Islamic scholar) should take part in PTI to educate their youth. College educated is
not mean education. Educated mean man of manners. Moiadab.
Other brothers before commenting through Islamic quoation and comment please reads and know the detail of any Islamic teacher not
media Islamic scholar 98% are professionals.
Think and comments "Divorce" is his personnel matter but teaching and Islamic education is the part of man. He should arrange himself specially
he had resources financial with a lady (another wife) should devote his time.
A MEN WHO FIND A SOLUTION TO INTER THEIR CHILDREN IN SO CALLED MODERN SOCIETY ,S 'YATEEM KHANA" under a Jewish head
HOW HE WILL RAISE NATION'' YOUTH HOW IS APPROACH AND VISION???????? WHEN HE CAN NOT DO AND I AM SURE NO ONE CAN DO THEN HE WILL PUT NATION WITH JEWISH, CHRISTIAN. There is good example of earth quick and Afghanistan where there was no christian but these donors convert them as "Christian" build churches but only few number of strong believers resist majority is sleeping and running behind slogan .
 
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Temojin

Minister (2k+ posts)
Brother give some quotation of a sufi or peer. Lotta belongs to grave worshipers group. You know they only believe their peers and don’t like imam ibne qayyem or ibne temiya. Jazakallah for sharing the link of Imam Ibne Qayyem Book. I have been looking for its Urdu translation.

Don't deviate the subject. A person like ibn e Taimiyyah who was certain of tajseem e ilahiyyah and quoted lines like Allah gets down from His throne like I am getting down on steps of the pulpet as well as many other blasphemous and outrageous sentences is not of importance here. Again, stick to the subject.

Aesa thread koi NS ki party hi ka koi banda start kar sakta hai.Aese besharam log kisi bhi had tak gir sakte hain.

Mate, Nawaz or Zardari can go rest in their graves but you should also be very critical of your leader as it is important for the health of a political party, otherwise, things go the same way as they are right now. A mate has quoted my text up there yet I would paste it again and there is no personal grudge against Imran or Jemima but when one talks about being a leader and saying some things, he needs then to stay clear and honest about his issues.

I would have had hated to bring it up yet it was a public matter so I would like to quote it here. Jemima khan had her differences widened with Imran khan when she was found dating a famous british actor Hugh Grant and I repeat, she hadn't been divorced till that time (well, for a mother dating while still married to a Pakistani Muslim). After three years of dating (isn't it immoral in Islam for a mother of two boys to do?) him, she split up and remained single for only one month while getting in another dating relationship with Luke Janklow till date so I don't think she is a role model for a Muslim woman, don't know whether she gives a damn about our religious norms too as she could be found in the most immodest of clothing with these men at public places. Yes! It could be alright for goldsmith boys yet not for Muslim boys whose father settles himself at a higher pedestal of religion and morality. Remember, he calls himself the torch-bearer of Muslim values as well as Pakistani values so these aren't Muslim Pakistani values at all.

Now for the part for the house of goldsmiths. Since when did anyone presume that they believed in one God? Well! according to their claims they believe in the holy trinity (for them it must be holy) while actually they still are believers of the religion their very very and very dear friends i.e the rothschilds are and I don't need to tell anyone what the rothschilds believe in and I don't need to tell anyone about the depth of relationships between these two families. So either way, they don't believe in what we believe so bringing up those children under their patronage isn't appropriate at all. People might think that children are abided by law to live with their mother yet did IK made any open effort to get his boys to stay with himself or in an appropriate environment at the least, he never did. Moreover, they are not of an age that they can't be handed over to their father. Additionally, according to my lesser knowledge of the law, if a petition is filed even upon the above mentioned points, one can get full custody of children right from the beginning upon social, religious and ethical grounds. Jemima all of a sudden having the perfect timing to come and launch a campaign for drone issue while meeting tribals right before this gathering of October 30th is also something which hardcore blind followers can deny but not those who are fed up of these gimmicks.

I have no personal grudges with IK yet he seems no different to me than other immodest and immoral rulers that we have had till now who defends all his actions while leaves no opportunity left to criticize others.
 

TruPakistani

Minister (2k+ posts)
Why is everyone getting serious on such a stupid question by a retard who still believes in PMLN .....[hilar][hilar]
 

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